… that’s a funny way of saying they build their software for their hardware
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Apple Gets EU Warning to Open iOS to Third-Party Connected Devices
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Apple didn't force me to buy Apple products. They don't force me to continue using Apple products. Perhaps if you have no ability to make your own buying choices, that is on you, not on Apple.
Of course they are. And that's how a market works. Are you familiar with market economics? For example, in the EU, Apple only holds about 25% of the marketshare.
So now you'd force Apple to develop software for other companies? See, there really is no end to this nonsensical argument. OR, you could just let the market figure it out. And so far, Apple is a distant 2nd to Android. How is the market not working here?
It's very close to open source. It says that Apple can't spend money, time and resources developing products and IP to its own benefit. It can only develop them to the public good. That's the antithesis of market economics. Much closer to open source.
I don’t think governments should be dictating this but if Apple is already doing something, restricting 3rd party access to it because giving them access would give them parity with Apple’s first party accessories seems kind of petty. I’m thinking of things like BT headphone pairing. But I don’t know the technical details. Does Apple have some special sauce that they save just for AirPods to make them more desirable? Or would they have to do extra work for 3rd party headphones to pair the way AirPods do?
I hear the "argue/vote against their own interests" statement often. I don't understand this question at all.
Is there no situation where you would support something that doesn't benefit you? Maybe on the basis of right and wrong?
Not everything that is right would serve my interest. A lot of things that are wrong, would serve my interest.
It would be in my interest for the government to confiscate all of my neighbors land, money, and possessions then distribute it evenly to all the people in my neighborhood. But, I don't support that, even though it is in my interest to do so. Nor would I support the government taking Apple's profits and putting in direct into my bank account.
Stating that the benefactor of a law is a "megacorp" does nothing to the ethical and/or moral condition of the law. If it does, at what point of financial success does an individual or organization become legal meat for the mob?
Precisely why the DMA exists. Antitrust law for this century.
Agree, there was no sign of them switching over on iPhone. The way is was spoken about publicly by Apple indicates that they were reluctant to.
No, it's a way of saying they build their software deliberately not for other hardware. The two are not mutually exclusive.
This isn't complete overreach.
Ok if you are going to claim the whole blue/green text bubble as a safety problem I can’t take anything you say seriously anymore. Utterly ridiculous argument.
Tell me you don't know what a monopoly is without telling me you don't know what a monopoly is.
And like when did Apple stoped this ? I had Pebble watch, i had Xiaomi Band, all the notifications and calls were forwarded to the smart/band, when there was no apple watch, of couse i could pick up the phone cal on my band but this needs support from the Band Manufacturer, this hasnt been working on an Andorid phone reliably too, and also after apple release the expensive ones still worked ... so now years later they disabled it a EU want to enable it ? ha ... Integration with Health Kit / Health app ... yes every other device i have send data to health, Bloodpresure, Weiight, Temperature ... etc ... like what the EU is talking about, .... i dont understand
Yeah but, at least in some parts of the world this has social consequences, and Apple is intentionally not doing anything because it's profitable for them.
You keep bringing up this market share argument but at the end of the day Apple is part of an oligopoly and it still needs to be regulated. They didn't get to the top by being sweet and nice.
Apple needs to face consequences whenever it's found guilty of something, and yes, it could include them developing software for others (there are precedents of this, by the way, e.g Atari vs Coleco) or opening up their ecosystem.
You know what would be nice, if the EU did other things like go after EssilorLuxottica? If we follow how the EU is playing, why should EssilorLuxottica do everything from manufacturing the glasses to owning the store you brought to possibly being your vision care health insurance provider.
Can you point me to any data to support this point? What is "many people?" The 50 or so here on MacRumors?
Honestly, there's not a single benefit from the new EU App Store so far (except the Epic Store). I have zero new feature in Sequoia, though. The best thing is that Apple added the iPhone Mirroring app just so it can tell me that it doesn't work.
I'm referring to the EU's over-reaching of what a companies does with their IP and products, as it relates to the market. If EU companies don't like something, they are more than welcome to create a phone that competes with both Samsung and Apple. The issues is, that takes investment, and investment against tried and tested competitors. That same ability goes down if we (the US) were not to contribute $755 billion of the $1.185 trillion to NATO since we are now talking politically now. That yearly savings for the US and yearly increase for the EU, changes the dynamics of funds and capital allocation. Apples smartphone market share in the US is about 58% where as Samsungs is about 26%. Where Google has a 4%. If we talk globally Apple has about a 22% market share. If a consumer doesn't like Apple or its products they can purchase any other phone. Problem is people tend to like their iPhones so instead of making a competing product the EU wants Apple to open its IP. Funny how the DMA is geared heavily towards American tech companies and not EU tech companies.
Nope, nowhere near. Apple hasn't been asked to provide the source code at all.
I have no idea what you're taking about with regards to "social consequences."
Apple is not an oligopoly. Apple does not collude with Google or Samsung or Huawei or others. It competes with them. And in the EU, Apple only has about 25% market share. This is a nonsensical argument.
LOL. Good luck with that. "To the barricades!"
Ummm...that's exactly what Apple is being asked to do. IF Apple uses any of it's code in a way that benefits Apple over the competition, the DMA seemingly forces Apple to open that code up to any third party that wants it.
Nintendo has a monopoly with The Nintendo Switch operating system, Sony with the PS5 operating system and Xbox with theirs.
They all need to allow 3rd party OS run on their systems, and allow flash carts without using DRM measures that inhibit usage of their products (Nintendo).
Hmmm, what next, EU demanding that Apple hands over it's designs to it's computers?
I bet the EU would be up in arms if the US government demanded BMW or Audi open up access to their car info train systems to developers.
Enough is enough the EU has gone to far, I can see Apple fighting them in the court, the US government should be also be fighting in Apples corner.
I bet the EU would be up in arms if the US government demanded BMW or Audi open up access to their car info train systems to developers.
Enough is enough the EU has gone to far, I can see Apple fighting them in the court, the US government should be also be fighting in Apples corner.
Probably many more people than those who use the "user experience" jargon.
Apple, under Tim Cook, has acted like an anticompetitive bully. Apple has an easy out, quit selling in the EU. Consumers may be ticked off and want their iPhones back??? But if I were the EU, US, or any other country, I would stop the bully. These companies of which Apple acts the worst, destroy and steal from competition. We pay for the devices, and that’s the end of it. We should be able to install whatever the F we want.