Although not true in reality, it reminds me of this;
DOS isn’t done until Lotus won’t run.
DOS isn’t done until Lotus won’t run.
What conspiracy theories? Huawei didn't get banned in the US for no reason.What's wrong with iOS running on a Huawei device?
You may resort to conspiracy theories all you want, but ultimately we'll survive just fine without Apple and their cartel. It's not integral to our history, it's just a business.
Lol, that was a dirty move by MS. Lotus still would run under DRDOS and PC-DOSAlthough not true in reality, it reminds me of this;
DOS isn’t done until Lotus won’t run.
What's wrong with iOS running on a Huawei device?
You clearly misunderstood the question
...I mean one of the reasons Huawei got banned absolutely has to do with the US protectionist policy.What conspiracy theories? Huawei didn't get banned in the US for no reason.
How would you like some government to handout your lifetime work to others so they could benefit from it for free and at the same time negatively affect your business?
"Apple and their Cartel"... now that's a conspiracy theory... Nobody is forcing you to buy from Apple. If you don't like it, go Android and stay there. The fact that you don't like Apple doesn't give you the right to throw rocks to Apple and their users.
People forgot the days of Windows vs Linux. It was a clean competition, without trying dirty moves.
We are living in a crybaby/tree-hugger/save-the-cows generation.
I understand the argument very well, I even understand how weak the argument is.Amazing how many people can't seem to comprehend this point you're making
But iOS already does that.Creating an API for 3rd party products to have access to core functions such as notifications, read/write to health data and controlling the phone like answering calls, volume up/down or chime the phone/watch/speaker etc?
why not?
And that would be great in a Marxist economy. But doesn't work in a market economy.Why not? Apple has a monopoly with iOS on the iPhone. 3rd party should be allowed to run on iPhone too, like Android.
Apple. They want Apple. Well Apple's money to be more precise. Any regulation they can come up with to fine them achieves that goal.Apparently RCS and side loading wasn’t enough.
I can already pair my AirPods and iPhone with my work Windoze laptop. So what else does the [redacted] EU want?
Yeah except you can't apply this logic when everyone has a smartphone and it's so present in our lives.And that would be great in a Marxist economy. But doesn't work in a market economy.
"Free Market" means everybody has the right to participate in the market "race", regardless of how big or small you are.Completely disagree.
There are several misconceptions present in this comment.
Firstly, the claim that Huawei is being blocked from operating properly in Europe is not accurate. Although Huawey faces some restrictions in some European countries, mainly regarding 5G networks, Huawei continues to offer a wide range of products in the European market like, for example Tablets, Smartphones, Laptops and Wearables, just naming a few, not to mention the a huge percentage of the inverters that are being used in solar plants, for example.
This variety of products demonstrates that, despite some restrictions, Huawei maintains a significant presence in the European technology market, so your assertion, carefully avoiding the other examples I gave, like Samsung or Xiaomi, is, at least wrong leading.
On other hand, the assertion that "innovation and free market are just buzzwords" ignores substantial historical and economic evidence. The free market has been a fundamental driver for innovation and technological progress through history for several reasons. While government regulation has its role, especially in matters of safety and consumer protection, excessive control can have negative effects of limitation of choice, creating entry barriers, inefficiency and rigidity.
While regulation has its place in protecting consumers and ensuring safety standards, a careful balance is necessary. A market excessively controlled by state can stifle innovation and limit consumer choices. Economic history shows us that free markets, when properly regulated, have been the most effective engines for driving innovation and technological progress, benefiting both consumers and society as a whole.
This is not the case lately with the EU and the last Draghi report makes several key points about excessive regulation in the EU. The report emphasizes that while regulation is necessary, excessive regulation is hampering EU competitiveness and innovation, particularly in comparison to the US and China.
So no, this is not a conspiracy theory. Just a legitimate question about what is driving this systematic attack on some USA based companies like Apple and Google.
Thank you for evidencing my thoughts.There's a nice straw man. How about you steel man our arguments before you pretend to understand our culture?
The EU did not force the adoption of USB-C on Apple. Apple had already been moving toward this standard for years. And once I got my USB-C iphone, you know what I had to do with the 50 or so lightning cables I had? I'll let you think that over.
So, you admit that the goal here is for the EU to run Apple's business?Apple is getting what it’s earned. Their AppStore greed has caused a world of hurt on them. Because they wouldn’t let go of their IAP fees, and anti-steering rules, now they have to open up their OS more and more. So so so many commentators warned them that if they kept on their path of AppStore greed that legislation would come and dictate how they run their business.
I'm just trying to follow your shifting and meandering arguments.You're conflating the past and the future... this is a slippery slope argument
The tech market should not be free. It should be treated as a special case, since it has so much influence over society.Tell me you have zero understanding of market economics...
There are many APIs open to 3rd party products already.Creating an API for 3rd party products to have access to core functions such as notifications, read/write to health data and controlling the phone like answering calls, volume up/down or chime the phone/watch/speaker etc?
why not?
Maybe teens and even grown ups bullying each other because of iMessage and the general view that having an iPhone implies you have a higher social status? I mean case manufacturers intentionally develop cases with a cutout around the apple logo...
Apple has multi-billion dollar contracts with the parties mentioned, therefore they're an oligopoly - they will be attacking each other in front of the general public.
Weakening Apple will only be bad for Apple - it will be good for everyone else.
Who plugs their phone into a wire in 2024? Far as I'm concerned Apple could get rid of that hole in the chassis entirely - Call it "improved waterproofing".People complaining it will worsen the iphone. Meanwhile because of EU we will have removable batteries in a near future, and we already have usb-C.
Meanwhile in USA things like some gym’s dont even let you unsubscribe from a membership if its not by post. Thats what happens when there is absolutely no regulation.
Now can there be overregulation? Thats totally possible. But apple always will find their way to be the same. I still havent lost a thing on the iphone from all the things EU did, just added.
May be Apple needs to pay up. If EU is serious, they need to investigate how much campaign donations and money these law makers receive from Google or other EU companies that benefit from this shakedown. I bet if Apple can grease the palms, all this will cool down. At this point it looks like a shakedown/extortion.Apple is a minor player in the EU cell-phone market. Weakening it will only serve to strengthen the Google-Android hegemony.
most peopleWho plugs their phone into a wire in 2024? Far as I'm concerned Apple could get rid of that hole in the chassis entirely - Call it "improved waterproofing".
At least you're being more honest in your approach than many on this thread. You want to nationalize Apple in the EU, make it a public utility. Got it.The tech market should not be free. It should be treated as a special case, since it has so much influence over society.