The European market could be bigger. (in an alternate universe where there is no eu)the EU market is larger than the US... (at least potentially)
The European market could be bigger. (in an alternate universe where there is no eu)the EU market is larger than the US... (at least potentially)
Spotify absolutely meets all the pre-requisites listed in the law to be a gatekeeper except the E.U. intentionally excluded music streaming as a service (they did include video streaming though). Wonder why?Spotify is a service.
its available everywhere on all platforms, they don't hold the rights to stream ALL music.
You don't understand what a gatekeeper is do you?
Europeans choose Spotify over Apple Music because they prefer it.
Stop this USA being bullied chat 😂
Centuries? The EU was formed in 1993.. a grand age of 31 years.Turning? lol. Been bully for centuries. Ask those colonies.
Tell me you don't understand the DMA without telling me you don't understand DMA..Spotify has the majority of the streaming market…is the EU going after them as well? Nahh
You're missing the point. You're implying the EU has anything to do with Qwant. Unless I'm missing something, it's not a state-owned company.I'm sure it will be as successful as qwant, the eu's search engine. 🤣
Are you a citizen in an EU country? EU is certainly not a joke but like any governmental structure is not perfect. There is criticism of EU in all countries but usually regarding bigger issues like democratic processes, immigration, sustainable development, clean energy, and the surrounding world. Still since Brexit, not even the right and left wings in my country want us to leave EU anymore so EU must be doing something right.I’m saying the EU is a joke.
You mean Europe that isn't scared of bullying over green bubbles? buys android and doesn't care?They don’t have to leave the market, just announce that they would by some date in the future due to the oppressive nature of the EC. The blowback that would cause for the EC would quickly have them reverse their nonsense. No consumer is asking for this but they sure want their Apple devices to work.
LOL what total ********. You have exactly zero evidence this is true.Phones with removable batteries aren't popular anymore because of tech influencers pushing the idea that thinness is better.
Spotify absolutely meets all the pre-requisites listed in the law to be a gatekeeper except the E.U. intentionally excluded music streaming as a service (they did include video streaming though). Wonder why?
Tell me you don’t understand the DMA without telling me you don’t understand the DMA.Tell me you don't understand the DMA without telling me you don't understand DMA..
The DMA is about monopolist gatekeepers, not companies in general who have the biggest share in their market...
I’d love to. And Apple wants to sell me that product. Unfortunately the EU in their arrogance has decided they know better and are taking away my choice.Maybe it's time for you to buy something else then, because your self-interest is more important for you than Apple's.
Tell me you don’t understand the DMA without telling me you don’t understand the DMA.
The DMA is about busting Apple using revenue as the metric.
I love these EU threads, its just filled to the brim with Americans having a stroke over an American company being told off by europeans 🤣
I said it before and ill say it again.
It is not USA vs Europe, it IS trillion dollar Apple having to comply with European laws just like they do in china.
Get. over. it.
They only care about profit, not you or the flag, PROFIT.
I can't rationalize the US DOJ antitrust lawsuit. I think it is BS. I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to in Japan, but I think you are talking about them moving to regulate the iOS App Store similar the EU measures. If that is the what you are referring to then I feel the same way about it as I do the EU actions, I think it is legislative overreach.So how do you rationalise the US DOJ antitrust lawsuit in your head? Or the direction Japan is heading?
Many people legitimately miss having removable batteries, thinking they are cool. I'd like to have one, too.LOL what total ********. You have exactly zero evidence this is true.
Spotify prohibits users from interoperating with non-Spotify services.How is spotify prohibiting other streaming services to integrate with iOS / android?
Spotify absolutely meets all the pre-requisites listed in the law to be a gatekeeper except the E.U. intentionally excluded music streaming as a service (they did include video streaming though). Wonder why?
This is such a bad argument. Apple was CLEARLY moving to USB-C. Maybe not as fast enough as you want, but they were. At most, the EU got it put in place a few years early. And now we are stuck with USB-C for all eternity because of the EU. There will never be a better charger. Thank God they didn't do this when micro-usb was the primary charger.As much as I want to defend both Apple AND the EU, only one of those two entities is thinking on behalf of all users, not just Apple, and has nothing to do with finances for the EU. And that point shouldn't be lost on people. Like, literally Apple would've kept using Lightning cables if it wasn't for the EU, and that was absolutely, 100% a purist money grab on behalf of Apple.
@oppressive nature of the ECThey don’t have to leave the market, just announce that they would by some date in the future due to the oppressive nature of the EC. The blowback that would cause for the EC would quickly have them reverse their nonsense. No consumer is asking for this but they sure want their Apple devices to work.
Spotify makes more revenue and has more users in the EU than the App Store. How on earth is this nonsense?Again, this is nonsense.
Conveniently ignores that Spotify and music streaming generally is also drawing scrutiny from the EU.
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Music streaming sector: EU must ensure just pay for artists and fair algorithms | News | European Parliament
On Wednesday, the European Parliament called for EU rules to ensure the music streaming sector is fair and sustainable, and to promote cultural diversity.www.europarl.europa.eu