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Apple Grabs 17% of Worldwide Smartphone Sales in Third Quarter
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Can you imagine...?
When Apple becomes a free agent and lands into multiple U.S. carriers, the numbers are going to be insane! I imagine the iPhone they introduce when this happens is going to be one they've been holding back on. It's going to be sweet!
When Apple becomes a free agent and lands into multiple U.S. carriers, the numbers are going to be insane! I imagine the iPhone they introduce when this happens is going to be one they've been holding back on. It's going to be sweet!
""There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance," said Ballmer. "It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get.""
Steve Ballmer
He wasn't far off with the 2% or 3% figure for Apple's share of the total world phone market, it's just his 60% or 70% share for phones with Microsoft's software which is laughable.
a lot of that is managed straight from the MS Exchange System Manager. there is even a podcast about it, but i forgot the name.
in a lot of companies the IT department isn't a bunch of nazis that feel they need to control every little thing just for the sake of being controlling. i don't manage BES anymore but where i work we allow people to install apps and do other things with their phones. never had an issue
How do you roll out iphones and be able to use them without iTunes being installed on every desktop? (Or even how would you block iTunes from getting out to the internet...)
OK, let's look at that statment.
They certainly do.
Ah. So we're talking total mobile phone sales, not smartphone sales.
I'm sure you would Steve. It's never, ever going to happen though.
It's about 2-3% isn't it.
So apart from the laughable wishful thinking about WinMo he's right, isn't he?
He wasn't far off with the 2% or 3% figure for Apple's share of the total world phone market, it's just his 60% or 70% share for phones with Microsoft's software which is laughable.
Unless he was talking about stuff like Microsoft Exchange Activesync, which is licensed to many smartphone makers.
Certainly the iPhone would be less regarded without it. Google even paid for a super license which lets them rebrand it as Google Sync.
Next up: Silverlight Mobile?
And this differs from your constant whining about "Bad Apple" how exactly?
And your pairing of the words "always" with "stranglehold" is historically a bad match.
Ballmer should shut his gaping pie hole regarding technology and go back to Proctor and Gamble to sell anti-perspirant. Oh wait...
As shown below you have a massive math fail. I think you might need to go back and take basic math because clearly you can not do it.
Again like above a math fail. The iPhone looks like it is starting to reach a saturation point in market share because it had some very fast growth in marketshare and now it appears to be leveling off.
Again you show how blind you are and do not really even know what all blackberry and RIM have to offer. The blackberry is the only phone out there that can do true push as RIM currently owns all the pattens on it. There are ways to go around RIM pattens. Apple way is not true push in how it is done but to the end users you can not tell a difference. RIM way of doing it is a lot better on the battery than apple but that is where owning the pattens comes in handy.
RIM has a lot of offer and with OS 5 rolling out they have added in a lot of great things to the blackberry while still keeping true to its core.
A year from now this quote will prove to be Ballmer-esque in its stupidity. Mark it.
""There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance," said Ballmer. "It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get.""
Steve Ballmer
Not saying that Apple will win this market completely, but between OS X, RIM's software, the Palm Pre software, Google's Android, and Symbian, there are at least four solutions that are far superior to Windows mobile. That's one market where Microsoft gets squeezed out for good.
Every time Microsoft gets squeezed out of a market, an angel gets its wings.
I can't wait to see the amazingly iPhone-like Windows Mobile 7. Too bad no one will care by the time it shows up. More evidence that Microsoft has no vision but can only follow others' lead. This time, fortunately, it will probably be too late. Thank you Google.
What great things are shipping in 5.0?
Everything I've read so far have been pretty ho-hum.
Watching this exchange unfold was pure comedy.
LTD's post are typically free of reality/objectivity and mostly emotionally driven unless he's posting 20 links worth of customer satisfaction links.
Agreed. The majority of people aren't willing to switch from their reliable and/or business-paid carriers to get another device. This will help the phone proliferate and make inroads into the business sector
Not saying Apple is bad. If you notice my only issues are with people who made superfluous claims and statements. If you need examples, just check some of your previous posts.
Points Proven.
For large companies though this is not a reality. BES servers provide us with everything we need for corporate integration.
Really? Didn't Orange (UK) just sell 30,000 of them in one day during its launch on their network last week? Apparently there is still a lot of marketshare potential if events like that are still occurring, no?
I work for a large company (Fortune 500) where iPhones/Exchange could easily replace our BlackBerrys/BES. Just depends on how much of the functionality only available via RIM (MDS, etc) your company uses. We basically just use email + PIM sync here.
One caveat is your exchange system needs to be on 2007+. For huge companies thats not necessarily a given, plus its just Web Services like the new Office 2008 add on, and Snow Leopard Exchange. For us we use the remote wipe features, advanced permissions, Office Communicator, and other Corp. additions which make the BB irreplaceable. We have had some iPhone users here mostly higher execs, and most now have a BB as well as an iPhone.
And that tells me what. Apple has massive hype on everything it does so I have noticed a huge spike for how many of its new products or things are bought on the release day and then it drops like a rock to much lower levels.
Take the release of the iPhone 3gs. It had huge sales on its release date and in the first week then just plumped to were over the 3Q Rim still grew more than them. RIM and other smart phones makers do not have apply hype for new products so out of the gate they have slower sells but unlike apple there sells stay fairly steady from the release date so in the same quarter they have more sells.
Best way to look at it is the the Hair and the Tortoise. Apple is the hair and out of the gate they are insanely fast but they do not keep it up. RIM is the tortoise and are much slower out of the gate but keep a fairly steady pace and end up winning and that is just looking at the past year between the 2 companies.
Problem with your entire argument is you try using a day one release. by the end of next month you can more than likely expect that number to drop by a lot.
The first day Orange UK sales show that a lot of people are waiting for the iPhone to be freely available on more networks. Even though the 3GS has already been available for 4 months exclusively on O2, 30,000 people went out and bought one on the first day not because of hype, but because it was available on their network of choice.
Just imagine how many they will sell when the other US networks get the iPhone.
True. I guess my point was that there is at least one "huge company" that sees the iPhone as a potential fit (to replace BlackBerry/BES). I think I read one of your prior posts as being a blanket statement that no large company would ever be able to replace BlackBerry/BES. Sorry if I misread that.
My point is simple. If the iPhone market were truly saturated (per your point, which is why it's "leveling off"), then Orange wouldn't have been able to sell 30,000 iPhones in one day last week. Regardless of any hype.
