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It's the same as iPhone vs BlackBerry... there's always a chunk of people that will automatically go blackberry because of the sense (even if proven false) that blackberry is more secure for enterprise than iphone...

RIM had their day back in 2005... Now they have competition... but regardless, they'll always have that piece that has their loyalty to them.
 
72% Very Satisfied
23% Somewhat Satisfied
1% Somewhat Unsatisfied
0% Very Unsatisfied

What other object gets this kind of results? You could poll people about chocolate and get worse results!

or even chicken... :)
 

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Something you all need to remember.

Let's make up some numbers shall we?

Apple make the iPhone with iOS
10 other companies make Android Phones.

Android phones are growing market share at a staggering rate.

Everyone predicts Android will swamp iOS phones before very long.

If these tens/hundreds of millions of people now and in the future have Android Phones, are they not going to possibly feel more at home with a Android Tablet once they have matured?

And less lightly to change over to iOS for their tablet experience?

Of course, Apple has pretty much no competition, so surveys now are a joke, but unless Apple really, and I mean REALLY stay way ahead of the up and coming competition over the next 5 years, they are not going to be able to stand up to a whole raft of other tablets long term.

Of course, they will always have loyal supporters.

Steve Jobs needs to decide if he's going to sit on the current iPad and tweak it, or really push very hard every single year to keep Apples device at the very head of the pack.

You do rely on one supposition: You rely on the assumption that the people who buy the Android phones will be 100% satisfied with their phones when they decide to buy a tab. The problem with that assumption is that I personally know a few Android phone buyers who already don't like it, even though they've only had their phone a few months. They can't back out of the contract due to going past that 30-day grace period, so they have to keep what they have until their contract expires. One of these people in particular has already told me she's going back to Blackberry as soon as she can--which means she'll probably buy a PlayBook when she chooses a tablet.

The point is that of those tens of millions of people (there's only about 80 million iPhones out at the moment, so give Android similar numbers, though in all honesty the installed base is probably half that right now) some percentage will not like Android any better than they like iOS, or decide they like iOS better. These people will look for an alternative, which is currently either RIM, Nokia or iOS. End result, we honestly don't know where the market will be in another year, when the first round of Android contracts expire.
 
Thanks!

Yeah... I just may end up getting the Modbook, if the Droid vendors don't come up with anything I could use. I've been holding off on the Modbook in hopes that they'll eventually increase the pressure sensitivity to match the Cintiq.

I know I'm in a minority, but I can't help but think Apple or the others would sell at least a few million more units to graphics pros, art schools, etc... if they could figure out a way to include a digitizer without adding too much to the price (big "if," I know).

Well, if I put my imaginative cap on, I can imagine some ingenious company who makes a stylus that works on capacitive touch screens adapt said stylus to be pressure sensitive and communicate that pressure data to the iPad via bluetooth - viola!
 
iPad didn't really 'take 95% of the market', it created/increased the existing market by ~2,000% and took all of that increase for itself.
 
No point releasing Android tablets until Google says Android is ready IMO.

Apple didn't just slap the iPhone version of iOS on a big screen, they optimised the OS, and Android has yet to receive that optimisation, and as such, Google themselves said that Froyo is not ready for tablets.
 
Let the competition bring it on.
First off they won't even be using an OS of their own design . That may seem like a moot point but it really isn't. You control the OS you control EVERYTHING.If Apple does a 360 with iso for the ipad you think Samsung will get a similar 360 from Google in time to rumble with Apple? No!
So as those Android tablets hit the market there will be dozens of them trying to compete for a piece of the pie. Moreover, they will be presenting new models out like there is no tomorrow, further saturating the Android tablet business. You can have that hell hole!

As for Apple, well, they will indeed have a smaller margin of the tablet business but they will be there ALL by themselves. KA CHING!!!!
 
You do rely on one supposition: You rely on the assumption that the people who buy the Android phones will be 100% satisfied with their phones when they decide to buy a tab. The problem with that assumption is that I personally know a few Android phone buyers who already don't like it, even though they've only had their phone a few months. They can't back out of the contract due to going past that 30-day grace period, so they have to keep what they have until their contract expires. One of these people in particular has already told me she's going back to Blackberry as soon as she can--which means she'll probably buy a PlayBook when she chooses a tablet.

The point is that of those tens of millions of people (there's only about 80 million iPhones out at the moment, so give Android similar numbers, though in all honesty the installed base is probably half that right now) some percentage will not like Android any better than they like iOS, or decide they like iOS better. These people will look for an alternative, which is currently either RIM, Nokia or iOS. End result, we honestly don't know where the market will be in another year, when the first round of Android contracts expire.

Oh yes, of course, I appreciate I was making it simplistic to make a point.

Android will get better on Phones, Android will get better on Tablets, Over the next 5 years I expect Android would/should be way advanced than it is not on both types of device.

If people are happy with their Android Phones then they may also be happy to consider a tablet, perhaps which also runs the apps they like.

I would expect Apple people with iPhones also would be more lightly to go with an iPad than an Android version.

Not all, and of course there will be some crossing over.

End of the day I can see two things happen.

Apple goes all out on hardware and the OS and rides high at the top of the pack and shows everyone how it should be done.

This would be great.

Or Apple give up, realise they can't fight against the mass might of the other tablets, and like the iMac, sits in the background, thinking it's right, showing off a fancy design, whilst not bothering to keep up to date, relying on a loyal fanbase.

At the moment, they are way out in the lead, so they have now the chance to make themselves the leader this time and stay there.

My only concern actually is Steve Jobs being pig headed and holding the device back, not now, but in a few years time.

I hope he does not do this again, and pushes and pushes.
 
I never really understood why people want an ipad (other than image) its a big ipod touch. It can't replace a laptop, it wont obviously replace an ipod....whats the point of it?

It replaces my laptop.Why is it so hard to understand that other people are not like you?
 
Yeah - but you don't know how many people and how they polled them. For all we know they were outside an Apple store. Or from a list of Mac owners.

It also, as you state, asks what WILL you buy. And since they other tablets aren't really "known" yet nor some released - it's possible people's decision can change when the purchase is actually made. Again - the data provides wasn't given much context nor anything else to make it useful. My .02

WOW!Can you honestly say this stupid survey is worth arguing about?In a week you won't even remember it.
 
The iPad will own this market for quite a while. I haven't even heard of anything that could compete. I don't think there are too many people who are loyal to android. Just people who hate AT&T.

People drool over my iPhone and iPad. Not so over the android phones. They are sort of Everyman phones already. Apple still has that emotional edge over other products.

The iPad is already a cultural icon - anyone outside of tech circles even call tablets "tablets"? Nope. They call tablets ipads. There is only one for the foreseeable future.
 
The iPad is already a cultural icon - anyone outside of tech circles even call tablets "tablets"? Nope. They call tablets ipads. There is only one for the foreseeable future.

It's like with hand-held games. There's the Game Boy, and then there are all the no-name others swinging from hooks on the displays in Walmart.

With tablets, it will be similar. There will always be bottom feeders that will make something cheaper than the iPad that will be so far into the background noise that no one will even steal them.

The Android OS is so bad that you need to own an iOS product to appreciate how bad it really is.
 

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Nobody wants Android... But they'll take it if that's all they can get.
 
Not true, loads of people choose Android over iOS.

Link please? Everyone I know who has an Android device "chose" it because they were on non-iPhone carriers - it was the only "choice" available to them. That's not to say some of them wouldn't have chosen Android if offered either platform on their carrier, but certainly the number of Android devices sold in the U.S. is heavily skewed by the iPhone's single-carrier exclusivity.

I have not seen, personally or via Web reports, that "loads" of people are choosing Android over iOS when either is a valid option.
 
Link please? Everyone I know who has an Android device "chose" it because they were on non-iPhone carriers - it was the only "choice" available to them. That's not to say some of them wouldn't have chosen Android if offered either platform on their carrier, but certainly the number of Android devices sold in the U.S. is heavily skewed by the iPhone's single-carrier exclusivity.

I have not seen, personally or via Web reports, that "loads" of people are choosing Android over iOS when either is a valid option.

Get your ass to any Android forum. You won't get a lot of iPhone love there.

Here in the UK, the iPhone is on pretty much every single network and you can buy it unlocked, yet Android is still becoming more and more popular every year. Care to explain that one?
 
Get your ass to any Android forum. You won't get a lot of iPhone love there.

What a shocker. :rolleyes:

Here in the UK, the iPhone is on pretty much every single network and you can buy it unlocked, yet Android is still becoming more and more popular every year. Care to explain that one?

Do you have some numbers? I don't know anything about UK sales. I know that U.S. market share of Android is outpacing worldwide market share of Android, and single-carrier exclusivity of the iPhone here certainly is fueling Android's rise. Not to mention the buy-one-get-one-free deals you see here for Android (and RIM) devices that you never see in the U.S. for the iPhone that pad Android's "sales" numbers.
 
What a shocker. :rolleyes:

Yeah, not "guys I just got an Android phone because I can't get the iPhone", but "I got an Android phone because it's better."

Do you have some numbers? I don't know anything about UK sales. I know that U.S. market share of Android is outpacing worldwide market share of Android, and single-carrier exclusivity of the iPhone here certainly is fueling Android's rise. Not to mention the buy-one-get-one-free deals you see here for Android (and RIM) devices that you never see in the U.S. for the iPhone that pad Android's "sales" numbers.

I sure do. See this article from July which says that, even then, Android sales were soaring.

The only newer articles I can find focus on US sales numbers, but hey, July's still fairly recent.
 
You could poll people about sliced bread and you will ger worse results!

I am only "slightly satisfied" with my sliced bread. It could do so much more if it were only bigger. Just image a gigantic sandwich. Of course, then I'd need the matching accessories ... larger turkey, cheese - more mayo. It's really just a way for Wonder to over change. :D
 
Get your ass to any Android forum. You won't get a lot of iPhone love there.

Here in the UK, the iPhone is on pretty much every single network and you can buy it unlocked, yet Android is still becoming more and more popular every year. Care to explain that one?

I see many, many more people with BlackBerrys, iPhones and even Nokias than android phones.
 
I see many, many more people with BlackBerrys, iPhones and even Nokias than android phones.

I see lots of people with BlackBerries because they're dirt cheap, I see people with Nokias if they don't care about having a decent smartphone and just need to make calls, I see people with iPhones if they have loads of money, but I see more people with Android phones, because they want more choice and openness.
 
I see lots of people with BlackBerries because they're dirt cheap, I see people with Nokias if they don't care about having a decent smartphone and just need to make calls, I see people with iPhones if they have loads of money, but I see more people with Android phones, because they want more choice and openness.

I honestly don't know anyone with an android phone (or if they have one I've never seen it). Its pretty obvious if someone has an iPhone or a BB but I've never seen anyone playing on an android and people don't talk about them either.

iPhone was named the 2nd most recognisable brand above :apple: recently by a very influential uk marketing company.
 
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