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Apple Granted Access to Unreleased Samsung Hardware in Patent Suit

And the original iPhone copied the LG Prada:
lg-prada-vs-apple-iphone.jpg

Also look at its GUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PSvpPXppXA&feature=player_embedded#at=183

They all copy each other...
 
juicedropsdeuce said:
Almost. Actually it's called bad long term strategy. Compete on your own merits, don't try to win by handicapping others. Have you learned nothing from Microsoft?
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Samsung is the Microsoft, or Lindows in another story. Microsoft became big after copying Apple and Lindows died after being sued by Microsoft. Yes, i believe Apple did learn from Microsoft.
 
b0blndsy said:
Ripping off anyone, any competitor is a bad idea. You can't succeed by copying others. Take the example of Apple unique products, Apples products list is very small yet its the one of the leading company and most trusted brand in the world.
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Can't succeed by copying others?

Have you ever studied the success of Japanese companies in many areas?

The have taken over entire industries.

And that started via copying, which is like learning what works, add some ideas along the way and bingo ..success!
 
A can of whoop ass is opening up for samsung.

Come on Lar sue google for java, and let the real fun begin.
 
Thunderhawks said:
Can't succeed by copying others?

Have you ever studied the success of Japanese companies in many areas?

The have taken over entire industries.

And that started via copying, which is like learning what works, add some ideas along the way and bingo ..success!
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Yes you are right, they see something, copy it to begin with for a lower price and then make it better.
Giving the customers extras for free/built in that they had to pay for on the original model.
They then increase it's power/quality/speed and often the original maker is just too stuck in their ways and too slow to respond, or just pig headed so won't change.

Apple are up against the big boys now and they don't like it.
The only way they will be able to compete is by genuinely making their devices better constantly.

It's like any race, just because they have started before the others and have a 1 lap lead, the others are now off the starting blocks, and if Apple does not keep on running, the other group WILL overtake them.

And no amount of moaning and lawsuits will change this in the long run.

Apple have their nice little niche with the iMacs and Macbooks where they do what they like and they don't really have to worry to much about PC's taking their loyal customers.

On the Tablet front, it's very early days and there are still hundreds of millions of fresh customers out there to get onboard your system.
More and more of them buying Android/Google phones every day.

Apple has to concentrate on excellent products that don't handicap the users, and promote a company image that people like.
If they gain a negative image, and boy, they seem to have been doing nothing but trying to create a negative image over the past year or so, well, we'll see long term I guess.
 
Piggie said:
If they gain a negative image, and boy, they seem to have been doing nothing but trying to create a negative image over the past year or so, well, we'll see long term I guess.
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huh? I was under the impression that within a year they are both bigger in capitalization than ms and in proft, I would think this is a postive image seeing as their products are flying off the shelfs.

and btw you proudly sport in your signature about 10 gadgets or so and none from apple but the ipad? how did you manage this?
 
ten-oak-druid said:
Apple has to go through with this suit of course but it seems a waste of time. The galaxy tablets aren't selling. I guess the phone is of greater concern.
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Why do people keep thinking the Galaxy isn't selling? Maybe in America, but in South Korea, it is incredibly popular. I see it more often than the iPad in public, but I imagine it is because it is smaller.
 
Lunarstone said:
Why do you say that? :(
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Because I actually had one for a week. It was sold during the time of the first iPhone. The UI sucked as it was still implemented for a stylus.

It had a comletely different screen, a completely different form factor and most of all 3 buttons at the lower end. I also had the first run of models with a plastic back.

There was absolutely NO similarity. Same applies to the Galaxy line of phones by the way. I own one, my wife owned several iPhones. I clearly never mixed our phones because they actually ARE DIFFERENT.

But, well, this all is posted in a forum, where people think a swipe-gesture to unlock the screen is patentable. :rolleyes:
 
Piggie said:
Apple has to concentrate on excellent products that don't handicap the users, and promote a company image that people like.
If they gain a negative image, and boy, they seem to have been doing nothing but trying to create a negative image over the past year or so, well, we'll see long term I guess.
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It's not worth my time to offer a retort to your entire post, but one question: precisely where has Apple gained a negative image due to its actions in the last year where they did not already have a negative image?

Did the Flash dispute last Spring kill iPad sales for the year?
Did Google's rhetoric of "Openness" at 2010's I/O kill iOS app development and app sales?
Did "AntennaGate" result in a decline in iPhone sales?
Have magazine and newspaper publishers been totally unwilling to deal with the 30% for in app subscriptions?
Who, precisely is going to buy a Samsung Galaxy instead of an iPhone because Apple is suing Samsung?

By all accounts, consumers are broadly satisfied with Macbooks, iPhones, and iPads; satisfied with Apple's retail experience; and satisfied with Apple's customer support.

If we remove the true-believers (those that buy every iPhone and iPad) and those who are either ideologically or politically opposed to Apple (argue about openness, etc.), I think we would find that Apple has earned a great deal of good will among most consumers of electronic devices that will serve them well in the future.

Apple may very well end up with less than 30% of the smartphone market. The mobile phone market was well-established before Apple ended it and as people transition towards smartphones from feature phones, I doubt their purchasing habits will change much. (Based on carriers, contracts, price, and debating phone model last).

The iPad market may very well mimic the phone market, but there are many reasons to say this is not inevitable. Tablets are not necessary like phones and Apple does well where they can define an entire market, like the iPod. Carrier subsides and contracts are not as pervasive and the retail experience is hugely important.
 
Bonte said:
Samsung is the Microsoft, or Lindows in another story. Microsoft became big after copying Apple and Lindows died after being sued by Microsoft. Yes, i believe Apple did learn from Microsoft.
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The main contributing factor for Microsofts success was the realization that you could sell software on its own merits and not just as something you gave away with the hardware. It is true that Microsoft got a lot of ideas from Xerox, though.
 
those 5 phones are the ones that broke the patent! Apple will get access to 5 unreleased phones that we don't know about yet. And I had no idea that Samsung made the Droid Charge... gross.
 
How can people call this bullying. The products are a rip-off. They look like clones that you would find overseas, right down to the display of the Apps. I am really surprised by how many people on here think that it is OK to clone trademarked and intellectual property in the name of "competition". Must be the same group of people that flaunt their "copy-Rolexs" and faux Gucci bags.
 
cirus said:
Same colour and shape but different. Different buttons and speaker with the logo right on the front. What makes it seem similar is the colour and the metal trim, neither of which can be licensed or copyrighted.

Image

Look at laptops for a moment. If the logo and branding was removed from a typical laptop could you tell the manufacturer? All very similar with shiny black plactic (ASUS, acer, MSI) yet they don't bicker constantly about them.
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Yeah, but the speaker and the home buttons, turned upside down, look at exactly like the iPhone except that the functions are different.

Not only that, the UI is also similar. You can slide between panels and there also a line of dots at the bottom of the screen to indicate which panel you are on. When going to the main menu, the way the programs slide in to place are also like iOS
 
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juicedropsdeuce said:
Oh, Steve. You bully customers, you bully poorly paid Foxconn employees, you bully your vendors, and you bully your competitors.
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Wow, sucks to be crucified.

Anyways, I know the comment above was "toned down". But the reason Dr. Q edited it was "bad taste"? Im sorry, its either a forum violation [remove the post], or its an allowable post. Any middle ground is total rubbish.

PS: Educate me if I missed some part of the events folks, take care.
 
notabadname said:
How can people call this bullying. The products are a rip-off. They look like clones that you would find overseas, right down to the display of the Apps. I am really surprised by how many people on here think that it is OK to clone trademarked and intellectual property in the name of "competition". Must be the same group of people that flaunt their "copy-Rolexs" and faux Gucci bags.
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It is NOT bullying! Apple is just protecting what's theirs.
 
Kind of reminds me of the old Microsoft when they first started out. Apple & Steve jobs is taking it's place... What's mines is mines & what's yours is mines. I'll take that little brother.
 
Samsung must have really infringed upon a few things for the courts to be giving Apple so much access to future Samsung products.
 
mijail said:
Judging by where the market and the industry are today compared to where they were before the iPhone appeared, ...
... yes, looks like only Steve knows.

SAD. But true. But hey, it would be even sadder if it wasn't for him!
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I don't know how mankind survived for all those millenniums without Steve. Too bad he didn't put his knowledge and greatness to curing sickness and disease.
 
Good Start

This is a good start to settling this copy cat issue. In the end we will know who actually copied who.
 
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