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Apple Halting Mac Component Orders Due to Overestimated Demand?
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How am I wrong? Your someone that accepts anything Apple does, investors are not. Perhaps you SHOULD care about what the investors think, you know, seeing as they make or break the corporation!
I'm afraid I am right. As said, why else has Apple's value dropped several BILLION dollars in recent months? From what was it 700, down to less then 400 in less then 12 months. Say's it all IMO.
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I'd argue Apple's dominance among creatives in the pro market was a huge driver of the overall brand, and thus sales - in every category.
I would almost agree but their are other factors as well.
Not too sure about EVERY category...conflicting info about the Samsung Galaxies Vs the Iphones I guess.
Also aside from the pro market, Apple was smart enough to target the education (schools) as well back when I was new to all this!!
1) MS MAJOR miscalculation with 1st Vista, and Now Windoze 8 (LOL on that POS) I am one of the few, I guess, with no issues with my 21.5 Imac w/ Mt Lion on it...runs...I mean screams just great! (err...7200rpm 3.5" HD). SSD's are the coming thing, but my luck with them has not been great failure wise!
BTW: I LOVE the way Apple prices its new OS's ...So far anyway, $20 is a steal!
2) The "Bandwagon effect" of Apple is Cool! plays a part with the "younger set".
Yeah I am an oldie, and still remember the 1st Apple computers
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I know a lot of people are saying your average person buying a computer doesn't know anything about Haswell, Retina etc.
While this is true for PC's, I'm not so sure it's true for Macs. If you are buying a Mac you are already not a typical buyer, as you have chosen a product that is very different (and much more expensive) than a normal PC. Apart from a few people who have more money than sense, most people will read up a bit on what they are getting before they buy. The first few posts/comments/forums they read will mention that Haswell is just round the corner and prompt them to hold off.
It's not like you have to be an IT expert to understand that big improvements are coming. Everyone I know who buys Macs knows what Haswell is and everyone commenting on this post seems to know what it is. We are the people who buy this stuff and I'm willing to bet there are a lot more people like us than you might think.
As for Macs being too much of a switch for most people. I would say OSX is less of a change from Windows 7 than Windows 8 is. That strange metro/modern interface has put a lot of people (who have no interest in a touchscreen PC) off buying a new machine. After trying Win8 I know I won't be upgrading my Windows installation.
While this is true for PC's, I'm not so sure it's true for Macs. If you are buying a Mac you are already not a typical buyer, as you have chosen a product that is very different (and much more expensive) than a normal PC. Apart from a few people who have more money than sense, most people will read up a bit on what they are getting before they buy. The first few posts/comments/forums they read will mention that Haswell is just round the corner and prompt them to hold off.
It's not like you have to be an IT expert to understand that big improvements are coming. Everyone I know who buys Macs knows what Haswell is and everyone commenting on this post seems to know what it is. We are the people who buy this stuff and I'm willing to bet there are a lot more people like us than you might think.
As for Macs being too much of a switch for most people. I would say OSX is less of a change from Windows 7 than Windows 8 is. That strange metro/modern interface has put a lot of people (who have no interest in a touchscreen PC) off buying a new machine. After trying Win8 I know I won't be upgrading my Windows installation.
Conspiracy: Apple is secretly doing everything it can to devalue its own stock, allowing it to initiate a less expensive programme to go private and purchase all outstanding shares.
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Surprised....
Surprised there isn't a big market for pretty, $1,800 computers that don't have CD Drives, nor Hard Drives bigger than 200 Gigs (unless you want to pay an $800 for more storage). Just surprised....
Surprised there isn't a big market for pretty, $1,800 computers that don't have CD Drives, nor Hard Drives bigger than 200 Gigs (unless you want to pay an $800 for more storage). Just surprised....
Agreed!
Agreed...Great Post!
I was a beta tester for W95 and followed MS until Win7...I have NO PROBLEM with OSX at all (my personal experience and I believe that even the older folks wanting a computer have no problems either for the most part!
Now take the learning curve from OSX to Windfoze 8 and Things will only get worse for MS which will help Apple as well!
Agreed...Great Post!
I was a beta tester for W95 and followed MS until Win7...I have NO PROBLEM with OSX at all (my personal experience and I believe that even the older folks wanting a computer have no problems either for the most part!
Now take the learning curve from OSX to Windfoze 8 and Things will only get worse for MS which will help Apple as well!
Noooo. Not even. Only people on MR, bloggers, geeks and nerds (which represents a very small market of people) even care about cutting edge products in terms of the latest specs, Haswell CPU's, top end GPU's, SSD speeds and all of that nonsense. The rest of the world buys a Mac because they know it's a great computer with great software and easy to use.
More money than sense is right
I say this as a Mac owner. Only reason I have Mac/Apple products is I keep thinking at some point I'm going to develop iOS Apps. I primarily use my machine to run Windows. But have you seen most of the people in the Apple Store? They are mostly clueless, a lot of older people as well, and want Macs because its "different" or "shiny." A large majority of Mac shoppers aren't as "savy" as you claim. They just believe Apple's affective "their S don't smell" advertising.
If anything more "savvy" computer shoppers by Windows machines - unless they have to buy Macs for work. Because Savvy shoppers know that most of what is available on Windows is a lot cheaper, more advanced and includes more flexibility.
I say this as a Mac owner. Only reason I have Mac/Apple products is I keep thinking at some point I'm going to develop iOS Apps. I primarily use my machine to run Windows. But have you seen most of the people in the Apple Store? They are mostly clueless, a lot of older people as well, and want Macs because its "different" or "shiny." A large majority of Mac shoppers aren't as "savy" as you claim. They just believe Apple's affective "their S don't smell" advertising.
If anything more "savvy" computer shoppers by Windows machines - unless they have to buy Macs for work. Because Savvy shoppers know that most of what is available on Windows is a lot cheaper, more advanced and includes more flexibility.
UnfetteredMind
macrumors 6502
Agreed. Without more detail on which Macs, it's very hard to predict why it's happening (if it's happening at all).
People are simply running out of money. Just look at the macroeconomic picture of this country, Europe, Japan and China to understand what is happening. Cheap money aka. "Quantitative Easing", only gets you so far. Stop watching CNBC. These are the same morons who kept telling the sheep in 2007 that real estate was a no brainer and would't drop (<---the collapse was really obvious to anyone with no agenda). Many, including myself shorted the crap out of that subprime mortgage garbage. Warning!!! Next up, "Bond Market" (<---explosion coming to a market near you). 🙄 Can't say you weren't warned. Negative interest rates have consequences people.
MrNomNoms
macrumors 65816
So what you want is a 'build your own' computer which means that Mac's aren't for you.
Agreed - and share prices like the stock exchange doesn't really say much about the overall health of the economy either.
PBG4 Dude
macrumors 603
That was Atari. They buried roughly 5 million E.T. game cartridges in Arizona, then paved over them to keep people from stealing them. (Although if they had 5 million they couldn't sell, why worry about thieves LOL?)
mpayne2k
macrumors 6502a
+1
I wasn't necessarily "due" for an upgrade of my iMac as I currently have one from 2010, but with the new form factor and fusion drive my intrest was piqued. Until....found out no DVD super drive included anymore. Sure you could buy an external drive and take up one of the USB slots, but that takes away from the purpose of minimizing how much desk realestate the machine takes up.
I would have bought one of the new "skinny" iMacs day one if it had a built in Blu-Ray/DVD combo drive, but nope, I'm completly content with my 3 year old machine. It still rocks! I wish Apple would get off its high horse about their feelings on Blu-Ray/DVD media. I still use those formats so I won't support Apple's direction away from them.
Stock drops when people sell to make a profit on their investment, albeit a short-term investment since they would do better in the long run to keep their shares.
That depends on the purpose for which they bought the machines. To read news, get the TV Guide, do email, find weather, browse photos and music, all of those can be done on an iPad. I don't want an iPad to edit my songs or my photos.
And I am waiting to see what the new Mac Pro can do for me that my 2008 model cannot.
Thunderbolt is dead, as it's not adopted by the industry. Firewire was much more accepted, but still Apple finally had to drop it.
And what's the point of a all-in-one PC that doesn't have all-in-one in his case ? Why should I want to attach an external DVD drive, an external harddisk or even worse, an external boot SSD to my AIO ?
Why should I buy a 1200$ machine that claims to be bleeding edge while at the same time using a non-upgradable 5k magnetic drive ? What's the point of not being able to upgrade the RAM ?
Just to be thinner ?
Yeah says the guy with a Windows 7 PC in his sig. No Mac in sight on a Mac forum on a Mac discussion🙄. I don't think Apple would ever make anything you'd buy, just sayin'.
Only reason I have Mac / Apple products is because they work!
My son-in-law sent me an email Sunday. He had tried to download software from a trusted site that was at the top of Google's search page for such software. Now he is having all sorts of problems with his Dell desktop machine.
I have used Windows for years (and still use it when I have to)... experience has taught me that although PC's seem cheaper, they cost you a lot in terms of the time you have to spend sorting out all the continuous problems they cause.
It's just their nature. It's far too easy for something to totally mess up the operating system beyond repair. I've seen brand new machines with nothing on them wreaked by a user just running Windows update for the first time. Add to that, hardware that comes from a untested jumble of different manufactures and you have a recipe for disaster.
Since I switched several years ago, 99.9% of my time has been spent on the work I am doing, instead of fixing things that went wrong, like it was on the PC.
gotluck
macrumors 603
I would buy a headless Mac with expansion slots / upgradable. Or a cheaper Mac Pro with a consumer grade processor. I promise (seriously).
My main machine is a Dell XPS 710 tower from '06 (originally Core2Duo 2.13ghz), upgraded along the way to now a Core2Quad Extreme Edition (max the mobo supports) OC'd at 2.93ghz for $70 on ebay. The machine still flys with a ssd + new gpu and has at least a few years left in its life as far as usefulness goes, gaming included.
I'm very interested in OSX (I've worked on others' machines) and the quality that comes from Apple. However, I'm used to my computers lasting a long time and remaining relevant (I do enjoy games).
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That may be true but what about the iPad 1. Its stuck on IOS 5 and its many years newer 😡