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Being invited to a round table about the Mac Pro is very different than iOS as an OS. Apple as we all know are very tightlipped about their efforts until official announcement because well it affects the bottom line and stocks within the current quarter.

Yes Ina gets connections and may still do ... I just find it hard to believe no new features will be released especially with Android almost killing Apple as an mobile OS in the regions Apple is desperately seeking out - mostly from Samsung. It's very obvious what we find as a value with iOS here in N.America is NOT the same sentiment felt in the UK, India, most of Europe as a leading platform. End users are getting a LOT smarter or more comfortable with augmenting their smartphones to do more. They always want more features.

it's very possible Ina incorrectly paraphrased "We have exciting new features in the pipeline for iOS and the iPhone yet we're focusing on making the current iOS more stable, reliable for the next exciting features to bring the best value to our customers". Thus ... Apple is focusing on stability and no more new features until next year.

See what I'm saying? ;)

Yeah. My point was more that Ina has good enogh Apple sources that I trust what she says more than some random analyst. The word on the street is Craig told the staff they are delaying features. We will see what WWDC brings. Should be interesting.
 
Yes Ina gets connections and may still do ... I just find it hard to believe no new features will be released especially with Android almost killing Apple as an mobile OS in the regions Apple is desperately seeking out - mostly from Samsung. It's very obvious what we find as a value with iOS here in N.America is NOT the same sentiment felt in the UK, India, most of Europe as a leading platform. End users are getting a LOT smarter or more comfortable with augmenting their smartphones to do more. They always want more features.

I don't believe in absolutely no new features in iOS 12 either, but fewer new features with some larger improvements being pushed back sounds plausible and something I'd like to see (even as a European). Apple has rarely won in the amount of features race anyway, but it's the reliability and stability that's been winning people over for years. That's been taking a hit from the recent quality issues, but now it seems like Apple is trying to fix it.
 
My bad. I clearly need a coffee, as there was more to this article hidden below a "read more" button.

I've updated the MacRumors article with the following information.

The report claims Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi announced the revised plans to employees at a meeting earlier this month.

Fried says a number of features have been delayed until 2019, including a planned refresh of the home screen and in-car user interfaces, improvements to core apps like Mail, and updates to capturing, editing, and sharing photos.

While those features might be shelved until iOS 12, Apple still has a number of improvements planned this year in areas like its Health app, ARKit, and parental controls. In addition, Apple is said to be prioritizing work to make iPhones "more responsive" and "less prone to cause customer support issues."​
Being shelved until iOS 12 or do you mean iOS 13? Unless there won’t be an iOS 12 released this year.
 
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I really honestly believe that its time to move from the current iOS to the next generation OS, just like Steve Jobs Moved from OS9 to OS X. The whole phone UI could really use an overhaul, and managing your device should be a lot simpler.
 
I don't think anyone would seriously think it is the case, it is more a sarcastic way to make fun of Apple's obsession with emojis/animojis (which personally I think they deserve, it gets a bit ridiculous at times such as during the iPhone X keynote).

And having said that, they did commit some resources to develop animojis which in my view is not exactly a killer app for their face recognition technology. For their second use of the technology with Face ID (which indeed makes good use of it), they could have found something better to keep their devs busy.

Well, Animoji is a whole another story. There's of course quite some development resources behind the feature – however, additional Animoji faces like the ones in iOS 11.3 shouldn't require too much effort, at least not from software engineering.

However I also think that the development effort behind Animoji is well spent, as it lays the groundwork for some exciting AR features. Animoji more or less can be seen as just a fun tech demo, app developers already have been doing interesting stuff with that face tracking data.
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This is great news. Maybe they'll actually look at sorting out the abomination that is 'Portrait Mode'...
Portrait Mode is pretty great most of the time, at least with the dual back cameras.
On the front facing TrueDepth camera, it needs some work, I agree.

And keep in mind Portrait Lighting is still in beta, in case you're talking about that.
 
Microsoft isn't releasing a major new version of Windows every year.
Actually, they're releasing at least one, sometimes two, versions per year now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history#Rings

But Windows 10 is in far worse shape than macOS. The Start Menu is slow and takes a long time to respond. Aside from a Win95 system running on minimum specs, every version of Windows prior displayed the Start Menu instantaneously.

The UI is all over the place with the number of frivolous features they've been adding on, like this weird People thing that's going on the taskbar and they've completely redesigned the app store nearly every single month. If you don't remember where anything is, it's fine because it'll be relocated by February, anyway.

And let's not forget all the advertising that has invaded the OS, as well. Any time you launch Firefox, a little popup appears to "remind" you that Edge supposedly uses less battery power. File Explorer "conveniently" encourages you to use OneDrive with banners. And the Start Menu displays "suggested apps" that are rarely anything you'd ever want to use. You can turn off most of these -- but that shouldn't even be necessary. At best, they should be opt-in by default when you first set up your PC.

Ultimately, it seems that Microsoft's accelerated update pace has also strained its development and QC resources. High Sierra may have its issues, but it's nowhere near the abysmal kludge that Microsoft created with Windows 10.
 
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Actually, they're releasing at least one, sometimes two, versions per year now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history#Rings

But Windows 10 is in far worse shape than macOS. The Start Menu is slow and takes a long time to respond. Aside from a Win95 system running on minimum specs, every version of Windows prior displayed the Start Menu instantaneously.

The UI is all over the place with the number of frivolous features they've been adding on, like this weird People thing that's going on the taskbar and they've completely redesigned the app store nearly every single month. If you don't remember where anything is, it's fine because it'll be relocated by February, anyway.

And let's not forget all the advertising that has invaded the OS, as well. Any time you launch Firefox, a little popup appears to "remind" you that Edge supposedly uses less battery power. File Explorer "conveniently" encourages you to use OneDrive with banners. And the Start Menu displays "suggested apps" that are rarely anything you'd ever want to use. You can turn off most of these -- but that shouldn't even be necessary. At best, they should be opt-in by default when you first set up your PC.

Ultimately, it seems that Microsoft's accelerated update pace has also strained its development and QC resources. High Sierra may have its issues, but it's nowhere near the abysmal kludge that Microsoft created with Windows 10.

Agreed. Windows 10 is pretty bad. I have zero urge to switch.

I guess it might be semantics, but I don't consider these Windows 10 versions to be wholly new OSes. They are more like service packs. Then again, they are adding significant new features, so who knows.

I think my point still stands - Apple should feel no competitive pressure to put out a major new OS revision for each of their product categories on an arbitrary annual basis.
 
This is the second time Apple have been said to focus on bugs like this.... under Cooks watch iOS has had more bugs then ever before!

http://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/report-ios-9-will-focus-mainly-on-stability-and-performance/%3famp=1


http://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/9to5mac.com/2015/02/09/apples-ios-9-to-have-huge-stability-and-optimization-focus-after-years-of-feature-additions/amp/

Is Cook and co’s idea of iOS releases now one buggy and messy with new features followed by one with no new features but fixes the bugs of the previous release and so on?
You complain on a Apple forum, have a Droid avatar, and expect said complaint to be taken seriously? ...SERIOUSLY?
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You update your software once a week? Are you on betas?
He's on Android. :/
 
I never minded the skeuomorphic design, and iOS 6 was the most stable version of iOS, I believe. The flat design of iOS is not helped by the bugs and some things like 3D Touch and long presses offer features that are hidden and not very obvious. I think some of the recent features of iOS would be helped by the old skeuomorphic look and feel.
Wasn’t Forestall the guy who allowed Apple Maps to get so ridden with errors and fall so far behind Google Maps?

Also, iOS is vastly more powerful and complicated than it was back in the Forestall days. It’s the natural evolution for the software in the world’s most popular phone. The current iOS runs circles around iOS 6 in terms of speed, power, efficiency, connectivity, and interactions between apps, and capabilities, to name a few advantages. All that to say that the job of keeping iOS “stable” these days is exponentially more difficult than it was in the early days.

Forestall did some great things. I liked skeuomorphic design at the time as well. But from many reports he was also very difficult to work with and sometimes stuck in his ways as well. It will be hard to know the exact truth until someone writes a tell-all book, and so there’s no need to speculate. But I do know that we as humans have a tendency to view the past with a rosy filter, and that the only direction that matters now is forward.

I’m disappointed that some new features are being delayed, because I always look forward to my phone and iPad getting an upgrade, but I’m happy that they’re doing what’s necessary to iron out the rough spots.
 
sorry, I missed this. Why the delay to new icons? Surely it's a design team that deals with icons, not programmers.
 
Regarding that Apple Maps release, I'll bet you that someone decided it will be released at a set date, come hell or high water. That's frequently what happens when sales and marketing types decide....
 
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Wise decision. I'm glad that they're finally realizing that these hard deadlines have only resulted in poorer software quality. It's time that they take a page from the past and focus on stability rather than buggy new features. Their customers really shouldn't be beta testers which has basically become the norm.
 
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Wise decision. I'm glad that they're finally realizing that these hard deadlines have only resulted in poorer software quality. It's time that they take a page from the past and focus on stability rather than buggy new features. Their customers really shouldn't be beta testers which has basically become the norm.

Feels like are using the public beta program in place of internal code review and QC testing instead of extra user testing on a broad scale.
 
Feels like are using the public beta program in place of internal code review and QC testing instead of extra user testing on a broad scale.
IMO, the developer beta program augments the internal code review, while the public beta program facilitates the QC testing. I don't know the numbers of the dev and public beta program, but the extra input gleaned from this is far and away more than a bunch of apple employees testing new code.

Of course, no one is forced to participate in these programs.
 
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IMO, the developer beta program augments the internal code review, while the public beta program facilitates the QC testing. I don't know the numbers of the dev and public beta program, but the extra input gleaned from this is far and away more than a bunch of apple employees testing new code.

Of course, no one is forced to participate in these programs.
I don’t participate in either beta, but it seems they’re often released the same day. So the developer beta goes out and if there are no installation issues or other showstoppers, it proceeds to public beta.

Both sets of beta testers are useful to QA, but I’m guessing the developer reports are more likely to include more-helpful info like the steps necessary to reproduce the problem.

But it seems like for many bugs, they are long-reported issues which are simply not fixed (for whatever reason) in the next release, but are instead deferred to some future release—with no indication of when a fix might reasonably be expected.

It can be very frustrating to have to keep dealing with these long-standing bugs, even if they don’t rise to the severity level that would currently have them make the “above-the-line” cut off for the next release. Especially when new features are being prioritized over bug fixes.
 
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You should look further into my post history, do you always judge a book by its cover? I guess you must do.
I don't need to look further into your post history! If you're judged by your choice of "book cover" and you don't like or agree with the judgment, perhaps you should choose said "book cover" more wisely?
 
I don't need to look further into your post history! If you're judged by your choice of "book cover" and you don't like or agree with the judgment, perhaps you should choose said "book cover" more wisely?

No, I’ll use what ever picture I like thanks, I will refuse to bow down to your opinion of acceptable pictures and the presumptions you portray from them.
I like Android, I like South Park, don’t like that? I couldn’t really care less. I’ll just add you to my ignore list.
 
I wonder what this “new home screen” was supposed to look like? And we were supposed to get it in iOS 12? I don’t know what exactly they would change, it’s been more or less icons in a grid pattern and a dock for its entirety. I would love to see an updated look, but short of completely redesigning iOS from the ground up I don’t know what they could really change.

I’m guessing it would have been similar as the update from 6 to 7.

I want to know also and I hope to god it’s not a round grid of icons like WatchOS.
 
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I was hoping to be able to move icons to the bottom of my home screen, or just wherever I wanted on the screen in general, but I guess that's probably one of the features that's getting out on hold....

Sucks because they shouldn't pick one over the other. Just do both: new features, as well as bug fixes/updates.
 
I think at face value, this is good news. I'd rather have a solid OS that is stable and fast, rather then adding features willy-nilly. Perhaps Apple is circling back to clean up and tighten old code before moving forward.

Personally, I think this is BS, especially given the talent Apple has access to, and the bank account they can fund it with.

iOS is capable of so much more than Apple allows it to. Apple does not need "a year" to bring performance enhancements AND improvements.

If devs can deliver features that users ask for, and provide updates to these tweaks while charging $5 or less and still not slow down my OS, then Apple is fully capable of doing so.

And before someone says "tweaks that jailbreakers install don't represent what everyone wants" let me point out a couple of examples:

A system-wide dark mode is something that really piqued people's interest especially when it was thought that it might be brought about in the last year or so of iOS updates. This is something that can be done now with a jailbreak.

One of the top trending posts right now in r/apple over on Reddit is about being able to dismiss phone calls without declining them while in the middle of doing something else on the device. The top upvoted comment is about making the incoming call interface a banner notification.

This is also something that can be done right now with a jailbreak.

I think it's high time that Apple open up the OS for users to decide what they want to do with it, and allow devs to take greater advantage of the device.
 
Personally, I think this is BS, especially given the talent Apple has access to, and the bank account they can fund it with.

iOS is capable of so much more than Apple allows it to. Apple does not need "a year" to bring performance enhancements AND improvements.

If devs can deliver features that users ask for, and provide updates to these tweaks while charging $5 or less and still not slow down my OS, then Apple is fully capable of doing so.

And before someone says "tweaks that jailbreakers install don't represent what everyone wants" let me point out a couple of examples:

A system-wide dark mode is something that really piqued people's interest especially when it was thought that it might be brought about in the last year or so of iOS updates. This is something that can be done now with a jailbreak.

One of the top trending posts right now in r/apple over on Reddit is about being able to dismiss phone calls without declining them while in the middle of doing something else on the device. The top upvoted comment is about making the incoming call interface a banner notification.

This is also something that can be done right now with a jailbreak.

I think it's high time that Apple open up the OS for users to decide what they want to do with it, and allow devs to take greater advantage of the device.
While I liked your post, Apple's history indicates, to me, that this will never happen. To dangerous to their walled garden mindset.
 
Personally, I think this is BS, especially given the talent Apple has access to, and the bank account they can fund it with.

iOS is capable of so much more than Apple allows it to. Apple does not need "a year" to bring performance enhancements AND improvements.

If devs can deliver features that users ask for, and provide updates to these tweaks while charging $5 or less and still not slow down my OS, then Apple is fully capable of doing so.

And before someone says "tweaks that jailbreakers install don't represent what everyone wants" let me point out a couple of examples:

A system-wide dark mode is something that really piqued people's interest especially when it was thought that it might be brought about in the last year or so of iOS updates. This is something that can be done now with a jailbreak.

One of the top trending posts right now in r/apple over on Reddit is about being able to dismiss phone calls without declining them while in the middle of doing something else on the device. The top upvoted comment is about making the incoming call interface a banner notification.

This is also something that can be done right now with a jailbreak.

I think it's high time that Apple open up the OS for users to decide what they want to do with it, and allow devs to take greater advantage of the device.
Jailbreaking is fine if you're not doing your Banking on your device and don't need to worry about your device security. Opening up the OS to users is a surefire way to also open it up to hackers! I'd much rather have limited access with more security than vice versa, thank you! And I'm happy to wait for the few features you mention to trickle down through Apple.

Go Jailbreak or choose an Android device if you're so desperate! But I'd rather your impatience for features not affect my personal peace of mind.
 
Jailbreaking is fine if you're not doing your Banking on your device and don't need to worry about your device security. Opening up the OS to users is a surefire way to also open it up to hackers! I'd much rather have limited access with more security than vice versa, thank you! And I'm happy to wait for the few features you mention to trickle down through Apple.

Go Jailbreak or choose an Android device if you're so desperate! But I'd rather your impatience for features not affect my personal peace of mind.

These posts are what keep us set back, especially when people have no idea what they're talking about.

1) We have tweaks to deal with that banking ********.

2) No one cares about yours or my individual devices. I have not once had an issue with security and I've been jailbreaking since the iPhone 4. If security were a major problem, r/jailbreak would be dead.

3) Trickle down through apple is a great thing to call it, considering how they move at a snail's pace, yet for some convoluted reason you're not upset that someone else can make this happen faster with less resources. Even if you're not okay with jailbreaking, why are you then still not questioning this and demanding that apple actually care about the OS?

The nature of this OS environment allows you as a user to keep being willfully ignorant about your options. Stop trying to hold others back just because you're not willing to learn more.
 
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