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Focus group question: Would you be interested in a foldable smartphone if its closed dimensions fit in your pocket easily? Samsung is moving forward with the concept but, unfortunately, it seems their goal is to make phones even larger.

It would surely be a flagship device and cost a fortune, so no. I'm not interested in spending laptop prices for a cell phone, even if it's more pocketable and handle-able than the current monster phones.
 
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Trying to sell a phone which costs much more than the annual salary of a perspective customer is an exercise in futility. What is it that Apple doesn't understand about this?
This info you posted is not accurate. Just like in China ,there is tremendous wealth disparity that they can take advantage of. Hopefully India grows within a decade or so. But with the things the government is doing I believe Indian growth is bound to slow down.
 
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I stopped buying iPhones when they put the price up to more than half my monthly income, and switched to Android.
Did you know android has expensive phones too? Shocker. They also have cheaper phones like apple too. So I don’t understand this “well I’ll just buy android then” when it’s the same situation over there
 
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How have you found the switch? I’m disgusted at the cost of iPhones but iMessage prevents me from quitting.

I got a Samsung Galaxy S9. It's OK, but still not as smooth as the iPhone 7 I traded in. It does just about everything an iPhone can, and some things an iPhone can't, like downloading music from a website. All the apps I use are available, and most of them are just as good, but a couple crash sometimes. More irritating is the occasional freeze, even forced reboot, but considering I paid only £329 (and the iPhone 7) I can live with that.

iMessage isn't an issue for me in the UK, I use WhatsApp, but having been in an iMessage group at work with an iPhone SE, and having the conversation destroyed by adding a non-iMessage number, I can see why it's such an issue in the US. If you can persuade your friends to switch to one of the bazzilion other messaging apps, you'll get over it.

Next time I'll probably get a OnePlus - they have a reputation for making the smoothest Android experience. I was waiting for the 6T when Samsung offered a spectacular trade in deal, and jumped, perhaps too soon. Everytime something frustrates me, I think of the £510 extra it would have cost to get an iPhone XS, and the frustration evaporates.
 
Did you know android has expensive phones too? Shocker. They also have cheaper phones like apple too. So I don’t understand this “well I’ll just buy android then” when it’s the same situation over there
It is not the same. Androids become heavily discounted to the point where a flagship cost less than a 3-4yrs old apple phone. Right out the gate I got 2 s9+ for the cost of 1 iphone.
 
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Focus group question: Would you be interested in a foldable smartphone if its closed dimensions fit in your pocket easily? Samsung is moving forward with the concept but, unfortunately, it seems their goal is to make phones even larger.

No iOS and Apple ecosystem, absolutely zero interest.
 
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I got a Samsung Galaxy S9. It's OK, but still not as smooth as the iPhone 7 I traded in. It does just about everything an iPhone can, and some things an iPhone can't, like downloading music from a website. All the apps I use are available, and most of them are just as good, but a couple crash sometimes. More irritating is the occasional freeze, even forced reboot, but considering I paid only £329 (and the iPhone 7) I can live with that.

iMessage isn't an issue for me in the UK, I use WhatsApp, but having been in an iMessage group at work with an iPhone SE, and having the conversation destroyed by adding a non-iMessage number, I can see why it's such an issue in the US. If you can persuade your friends to switch to one of the bazzilion other messaging apps, you'll get over it.

Next time I'll probably get a OnePlus - they have a reputation for making the smoothest Android experience. I was waiting for the 6T when Samsung offered a spectacular trade in deal, and jumped, perhaps too soon. Everytime something frustrates me, I think of the £510 extra it would have cost to get an iPhone XS, and the frustration evaporates.
Both the wife's and mine S9+ hasnt froze or had a glitch yet and
Def no reboots.
 
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Good on the Indians. Other populations should also stand up for themselves and tell the insanely greedy merchants of tat-tech to stick their silly, weak, bendgate, antennagate, scratchgate, crackgate, etc. pieces of electronic bric-a-brac where the sun don't shine.
Dude apple is just a company . If you don’t like it, don’t buy.You don’t actually stand up for something,by not buying it.
 
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In a country where the rising price of union is affecting families and turned into a hot political topic, they expect the average person/family buying a luxury phone?
 
The rumoured Pixel 3 Lite could be here any moment. I think it fits very well in your description.

Pixel 3 lite is rumoured to be the same size as the Pixel, i.e. only a few mm smaller than an XS.

I think what they mean is something smaller, maybe with a 4.7-5 inch screen, flat sided and OLED to make the estate outside the screen as invisible as possible and then whatever other specs you need to bring the price down. Bezel-less this would be a similar size to the SE. Personally I would take the above with premium features and pay XR money for it as I don't think a cheaper phone fits with their strategy to raise the ASP as far as it will go.

While we are on fantasy phone design how about a second camera for low light instead of tele or wide? You only need 3.3mp to fill an XS max screen and I bet most photos taken on phones are not displayed on a screen bigger than the phone they were taken on. That way the same sized sensor would have pixels almost four times the size of the existing one and improve low light photos. Just a thought. Probably the latest software makes the idea already redundant.
 
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They certainly do. Last quarter’s sales were $63 billion, up 20% from the same quarter last year. Next quarter’s sales will be around $90 billion.

Hat tip to Mt. Cook!
But the Apple share price has fallen dramatically. Things have to change.
 
Did you know android has expensive phones too? Shocker. They also have cheaper phones like apple too. So I don’t understand this “well I’ll just buy android then” when it’s the same situation over there
There is a difference. There are cheap modern well specced Android phones. There is not such iPhone. The cheaper versions are all ancient phones.
 
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Go look up how much the top 5% in India make. They can't afford iPhones either. It is an incredibly poor country. Even those who live well there make a pittance compared to the American middle class.

All of Tim's claims about India being a growth driver were a fraud on investors. The numbers were NEVER there.

"Even those who live well there make a pittance compared to the American middle class." -- When was the last time you were in India??
 
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To me, it seems like selling a less expensive phone in India might work towards the high price issue. Could have moved the SE plant to Delhi.
I think the problem is that the SE would be considered to be quite outdated and old. Especially when they can get a one plus or xiaomi phone with flagship specs for the same price. A price conscious consumer is more interested in bang for your buck than quality.
 
The author conveniently leaves out the fact that the avg selling price in the country is $140. India is an extremely poor country. It is argubly 20 years behind China

The author also leaves out the fact that Apple has started 6s production there and are selling it @ $300

WSJ’s Tripp is an aweful reporter. He always writes to his narrative instead of full accounting of the facts. Always gets it wrong. Shocking the WSJ does not have better talent

Last, I get a kick how the basement bedroom dwellers here on MR constantly complain about Apple pricing. Yet here they are, pounding away in the middle of the day on the keys of their iPhones. Angry, venting
 
Did you know android has expensive phones too? Shocker. They also have cheaper phones like apple too. So I don’t understand this “well I’ll just buy android then” when it’s the same situation over there
Not really the same thing. There is a lot of variety and choice with android. You can get a phone at virtually any price point you want. Also the flagship phones whilst expensive are still considerably cheaper than the iPhone XS/max, at least in the UK and the rest of Europe.
 
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"Even those who live well there make a pittance compared to the American middle class." -- When was the last time you were in India??


The top 2% of all Indian households bring in more than $710 per month. Tell me again how any of them are going to afford Apple's products?

Btw, the top 0.2% are bringing in a whopping US$17,000 per year. That's a pathetic 2.6 million people. The tail keeps tapering rapidly before you get down to the irrelevant handful who can genuinely afford Apple gear.

Source
 
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