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I didn’t wanna be doom and gloom when it launched and I was even optimistic about it pushing the space forward just like iPhones did for smart phones. It’s a bummer, however even I personally am not all that excited about VR. I’d rather play a console game sitting in the couch with a controller than wearing a headset. I don’t really expect that to change anytime soon.
 
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You have not even tried the device, have you?

No need to waste my time, I watched the keynote and it was evident this was going to fail and never produce a successor. I've used majority of the other headsets on the market and VR/AR offers nothing, its cumbersome. Unless its a contact lens in your eye every headset from any brand is a failure.

Product pricing is their biggest issue since TIm Cook took over. Its so obvious they re just trying to milk customers and alot more are starting to wake up to that. Shame they're making the exact same mistakes which led them to the brink of bankruptcy all those years ago. iPhone and Macbook Ultra tiers rumoured for this year just proves that even more. What next "Extreme" tiers in a few years time?

Not saying they're going away anytime soon, they have a large cash pile to sit on. But keep price gouging and producing lacklustre products and you never know.
 
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If it were the price, then nobody would buy $4,000 16-inch MBP M5 Max. The Mac Studio wouldn't be completely sold out. But it is.

Clearly, it's not the price. Rather, it's the fact that Vision Pro isn't appealing to anybody except for niche users.

Nobody wants to walk around with heavy, socially isolating goggles and a hip battery. All for what? Watching videos? Sure, the experience is great, but it's a loner experience. It's as simple as that.

Think alot of unavailable Macs curently is down to the RAM crisis rather than Apple selling loads.
 
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Silly to give up. They just need to get real. Dump the front facing screen. Lower cost and weight. Accept a smaller margin. Pay for a few quality apps to be made. Make batteries hot swappable.
 
No need to waste my time, I watched the keynote and it was evident this was going to fail and never produce a successor. I've used majority of the other headsets on the market and VR/AR offers nothing, its cumbersome. Unless its a contact lens in your eye every headset from any brand is a failure.

Product pricing is their biggest issue since TIm Cook took over. Its so obvious they re just trying to milk customers and alot more are starting to wake up to that. Shame they're making the exact same mistakes which led them to the brink of bankruptcy all those years ago. iPhone and Macbook Ultra tiers rumoured for this year just proves that even more. What next "Extreme" tiers in a few years time?

Not saying they're going away anytime soon, they have a large cash pile to sit on. But keep price gouging and producing lacklustre products and you never know.

Here’s hoping that the Ternus turn is coming at just the right time.

I hope he uses the transition as an opportunity to make a bunch of directional change right out of the gate.

Bundle together anything that he wants to do that might hit the stock price and just get it over with all at once.

Things like lowering the App Store commission come to mind.
 
No need to waste my time, I watched the keynote and it was evident this was going to fail and never produce a successor. I've used majority of the other headsets on the market and VR/AR offers nothing, its cumbersome. Unless its a contact lens in your eye every headset from any brand is a failure.

Product pricing is their biggest issue since TIm Cook took over. Its so obvious they re just trying to milk customers and alot more are starting to wake up to that. Shame they're making the exact same mistakes which led them to the brink of bankruptcy all those years ago. iPhone and Macbook Ultra tiers rumoured for this year just proves that even more. What next "Extreme" tiers in a few years time?

Not saying they're going away anytime soon, they have a large cash pile to sit on. But keep price gouging and producing lacklustre products and you never know.
They are doing the exact opposite of price gouging.

Never in the entire history of Apple have they ever offered products with anything close to the level of value of the current generation of Mac Mini, Macbook Neo, and even the Macbook Air.
 
Think alot of unavailable Macs curently is down to the RAM crisis rather than Apple selling loads.

But somehow, MacBook Pro with 128GB RAM is available in 1-2 weeks.

People buy stuff, even if expensive, if the product offers value.

Vision Pro basically offers no value. You have these loner suggestions of "let's go on a virtual tour," or "let's watch a concert instead of going live," or "let's have a date online." Real life isn't Total Recall. Most people are not nerds and have no interest doing that.
 
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They are doing the exact opposite of price gouging.

Never in the entire history of Apple have they ever offered products with anything close to the level of value of the current generation of Mac Mini, Macbook Neo, and even the Macbook Air.

Well, to be fair, the Mini hasn’t been refreshed, so who knows…and the MBAs are only great value if you buy them at 3rd parties on sale.

The Neo is the one major deviation, and it is hopefully a sign of what’s to come elsewhere.
 
I use mine exclusively to pretend I'm not in a plane or in a ****** hotel room when traveling for work. Certainly not worth the price but I'm an early adopter.
 
It's a shame, because I always wanted to have one of these and think the technology is really something special. My only hesitation was always the price point. I was waiting for the refresh but was also hoping it would drop to $2499 or so. $3499 is just too much to spend on something that gets less-than-frequent use and which may not be around long. I've been burned too many times by buying something only to see company support evaporate and all upgrades disappear from the pipeline.

At $1,999, I think they could've had some meaningful sales numbers. Perhaps they could have gotten the price lower by having the headset house the sensors and displays, but then be tethered to an iPhone as its "brain." That way, it would be more future-proof, more like a monitor that can easily last you 10 years as you upgrade your PC every couple years.
 
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They are doing the exact opposite of price gouging.

Never in the entire history of Apple have they ever offered products with anything close to the level of value of the current generation of Mac Mini, Macbook Neo, and even the Macbook Air.

All those products are compromised products in terms of functionality and what they offer. There are too many options for them which is a deliberate move so Apple can charge more for no reason.

You never had to compromise on functionality before Tim Cook took over. The only differentiating factor across all product lines was screen size and storage.

I'd prefer they offer one model iPhone with all the latest tech on it for a reasonable price. Same with the Macbooks, same CPU and RAM and I only need to look at screen size and storage.

Way too much product fragmenting currently, they need to slim the lineup.
 
It's a shame, because I always wanted to have one of these and think the technology is really something special. My only hesitation was always the price point. I was waiting for the refresh but was also hoping it would drop to $2499 or so. $3499 is just too much to spend on something that gets less-than-frequent use and which may not be around long. I've been burned too many times by buying something only to see company support evaporate and all upgrades disappear from the pipeline.

At $1,999, I think they could've had some meaningful sales numbers. Perhaps they could have gotten the price lower by having the headset house the sensors and displays, but then be tethered to an iPhone as its "brain." That way, it would be more future-proof, more like a monitor that can easily last you 10 years as you upgrade your PC every couple years.

Pretty much everything you could conceive of was prototyped. Apple thinks there's more $$ in AirPods with cameras, apparently. Regardless, we'll see visionOS show up in future wearables as price and awkwardness comes down. Truly amazing tech, though.
 
Are the people complaining about a $3500 AVP the same ones salivating over a $2500 foldable iPhone? Ooh! Ooh! Be still my heart! I have to admit, it took me until gen 2 to choke down that price tag too, but eventually went for it and now I use it every day. The big elephant in the room: not enough really innovative software support.
 
Vision Pro was incredible when I tried it in store, but even as a work-from-home software engineer with a decent use case and a decent amount of disposable income, it still seemed overpriced to me. I think I would have jumped at $1500-$2000. They could have eliminated the outer eye display and fancy curved glass to save some weight and cost, as that feature was deemed creepy by most anyways.
 
To no one’s suprise

Just a big bulky awkward device with no real purpose

It was destined to be abandoned at thrift stores for people to wonder “what is this thing” upon release

Reminds me of other weird short life span Apple peripherals from the 80s/90s
 
Too expensive for most which means most devs won't support it which means even people who can afford it won't buy it.
 
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