I guess you guys don't remember the white iPhone that they couldn't get right. Apple is always pushing technology. I don't believe that Touch ID will be dropped but if they can't get it right then I could see a delay. If this is a problem then it could also effect yields. Apple has cut off dates on adding new stuff but this looks like on they can cutout. The problem may not be getting it to work but getting it to work to Apple's standard
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Apple Has 'Just Weeks' to Solve iPhone 8 Touch ID Dilemma
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I guess you guys don't remember the white iPhone that they couldn't get right. Apple is always pushing technology. I don't believe that Touch ID will be dropped but if they can't get it right then I could see a delay. If this is a problem then it could also effect yields. Apple has cut off dates on adding new stuff but this looks like on they can cutout. The problem may not be getting it to work but getting it to work to Apple's standard
I hope when Apple launches this new iPhone, Macrumors does a who was right or wrong rumor tally. If this analyst turns out to be wrong, you use a red title banner in the future starting with "Warning: known to be very incorrect"
Swapping out Touch ID for facial recognition wouldn't be the first time Apple has done something boneheaded and wouldn't be the last. I'd definitely stick to SE or previous generation models until they find a better solution though!
But I agree that whatever the decision is, it's long made by now. The idea of facial recognition has been pretty persistent.
This would be a lot easier for Android phones to do
It's a joke, don't kill me
But I agree that whatever the decision is, it's long made by now. The idea of facial recognition has been pretty persistent.
This would be a lot easier for Android phones to do
It's a joke, don't kill me
For years there have been rumors about a bezel-less iPhone. Every year Apple solved the Touch ID dilemma with a simple solution: Keep the button, keep the bezel.
Yah, these reports by the analysts really rub me the wrong way. They speak as if they are all-knowing experts, but only really have a self-interest in financial performance, nothing else.
Fix? That suggests something is broken.
Yah, go away analysts.
If 3D facial recognition works as it's supposed to you won't have to hold it up to your face. The whole point of being 3D is it's supposed to work at any angle, in theory just a glance from whatever the angle range is of the sensor should be enough to unlock it. It doesn't need to be head-on, it should work from below you looking up even side-on as it has a 3D map of your face.
Anyway that's the theory, whether it works is another matter.....
Apple's product release is not based on the calendar year, but rather on selling periods. Christmas is their biggest season, so they release most new stuff just before then.
I don't know why everyone is saying this is fake or can't be possible. I think this scenario is entirely likely. It doesn't take as long as you think to put this stuff together (keynote filming, etc) and Apple isn't run as great as you think either in terms of long-term planning. Don't give them that much credit.
They probably have multiple options waiting to go depending on if they can get the glass embedded touchID to work. I think the story cited is probably very accurate.
They probably have multiple options waiting to go depending on if they can get the glass embedded touchID to work. I think the story cited is probably very accurate.
You give Apple too much credit here. If a company like Samsung, who actually pioneers in technology and is one of Apple's major suppliers, isn't able to get a working fingerprint scanner under the screen, you can be certain Apple definitely hadn't figured this out earlier in the year. Apple always perfects tech that has been out for a while and this tech is just nowhere to be found yet (the only demo that was shown by Qualcomm of a working prototype was slow an not near ready for mass production).
Why wouldn't they remove touch ID for something quantitatively worse? They removed magsafe on the macbooks. I wouldn't put it past them.
I totally agree. The pipeline at any manufacturing company is far deeper than "several weeks." The design and technology that Apple will be using in the next iPhone has been in the oven for months, no doubt.
They release most of the new stuff just before the Christmas season? Christmas really is getting earlier every year.
The problem must be scaling, it's easy to make a few 100's (a few months back), it's another story to make 10's of millions (now), so it's not so hard to believe.
You all have no idea how R&D actually works at Apple, do you?
https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/13/...et-history-iphone-brian-merchant-book-excerpt
https://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/0...duct-development-process-works/#.tnw_zxBmie1c
These things get decided much later in the game than you want to imagine. Products get axed, tweaked, and produced quite late, especially halo products. They have the 7S/7S+ for the incremental upgraders. Big stuff can be hyped and actually launched, but the 12-week ramping of the production might have just started (see AirPods for a perfect example).
Thank you. Apple works on a 12-month release cadence. They push the limits on product development; they're not going to finish something 10 months early and wait until September so they can finally release it.
But the anal-ists are never wrong. If a feature they predicted doesn't ship, it was "pulled at the last minute due to supply constraints, technical difficulties, phase of the moon". If it does ship then "Apple worked it out at the last minute".
The design and every aspect of the manufacturing of the September iPhone was decided at least a quarter ago.
It's fairly simple and similar to the current iPhones:
- Look at the time or notifications: Pick up phone, screen goes on automatically and shows time and/or notifications. No interaction needed. The iPhone might be unlocked now because it saw your face, but it stays on the home screen as you didn't click the virtual home button.
- Look at the time or notifications: Click enlarged power button, screen goes on and shows time and/or notifications. Same as above.
- Go to home screen: Pick up phone, screen goes on automatically, phone is unlocked because it saw your face but is still on the lock screen, click virtual home button to go to the home screen.
- Go to home screen: Click the virtual home button that is shown even with the screen off, the phone will go directly to your home screen as it already saw your face and unlocked it without you even knowing.
On current iPhones (apart from the 7) you can actually unlock your phone and still stay on the lock screen. Just pick it up so the screen goes on (or press the power button), lay your finger on the home button but don't click it. The iPhone will unlock but still stay on the lock screen waiting for you to actually click the home button. I guess it will be the same on the new iPhone.
I'm pretty sure Apple already knows what the next iPhone is going to have months in advance. I'm pretty sure they don't wait until the summer before launch to get things working.
I'll wait until Apple has their event and the truth comes out.
I'll wait until Apple has their event and the truth comes out.
My questions is, why is Apple in such an infernal rush this year?
Normally they release a new phone one year, then the "S", with incremental improvements the next.
Last year we got the iPhone 7. This year we should get the iPhone 7S, with some minor tweaks and some new features.
NEXT year should be the iPhone 8 with the big changes, with apple having two years to work on the tech. It seems odd that they'd be rushing to release an iPhone 8 this year, which is something they've NEVER DONE BEFORE, putting such an unreasonable deadline on developing the new design and hardware. WTF?
Normally they release a new phone one year, then the "S", with incremental improvements the next.
Last year we got the iPhone 7. This year we should get the iPhone 7S, with some minor tweaks and some new features.
NEXT year should be the iPhone 8 with the big changes, with apple having two years to work on the tech. It seems odd that they'd be rushing to release an iPhone 8 this year, which is something they've NEVER DONE BEFORE, putting such an unreasonable deadline on developing the new design and hardware. WTF?