Apple Has Received More Online Orders for New MacBook Pro Than Any Previous Generation

[amegicfox]

I just saw the 13" mac book pro at the apple store.

the screen is a mirror. be prepared to look at yourself when you work

still in 2016 they are not making the screen matte like it should be

 

[PastFuture]

Impossible. You mean that even though people who are developers and graphic designers are outnumbered 1000-1 in the market by people with other professions, and even though these devs and self-anointed "true pros" who have been on the cross for a week because of their slavish loyalty to Apple for X years, but not being catered to left them feeling emotionally betrayed didn't stop the vast majority of consumers and users from quietly buying and enjoying their new machines?

I guess all the complaining was just this:

While I pretty much agree with your characterization, whether it’s smart of Apple to not cater to these users in the long run is a different question entirely.

 

[bjeadeh]

In a wide-ranging interview with The Independent, Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller said the company has received more online orders for the new MacBook Pro so far than any previous-generation MacBook Pro.

Schiller said the early criticism and debate about the new MacBook Pro has been "a bit of a surprise" to him, but said "that's cool" and common for new Apple products. He attributed the response to a "passionate" customer base.Schiller went on to say the new MacBook Pro is "the best notebook ever made," but admitted it "might not be right for everyone on day one."

Whereas some companies are blurring the lines between notebooks and tablets, Schiller said the basic L shape "makes perfect sense and won't go away."That response is part of Apple's belief that the Mac and iOS devices are "fundamentally two different products."Also interesting: Schiller noted the new MacBook Pro still has a 3.5mm headphone jack because it is a "pro machine," but lacks an SD card reader because it's a "cumbersome" slot best left to adapters or wireless transfers.

Full Article: Apple's Philip Schiller talks computers, touchscreens, and voice on the new MacBook Pro

Article Link: Apple Has Received More Online Orders for New MacBook Pro Than Any Previous Generation

 

[peterdevries]

I had my finger on the trigger for a new MBP or MBA. The MBP was too expensive and the MBA is EOL'd. I decided to get a MacBook now and will probably sell that next year when the MBP is refreshed and hopefully reduced in price.

 

[DrumApple]

Sold more than any other MBP? That means nothing. It's called inflation. It's kind of how like 1 million dollars used to be a really big deal, and now it's 1 billion.

 

[TechZeke]

Think what is throwing us all off here is the term 'Pro'. For years, it has meant the absolute top of the range notebook with the latest specs, that could be maxed out in every way possible. A desktop replacement for a Pro, like me, a developer that need to run several virtual machines, application, database and web servers, development tools and what not.

Do I need better battery life and a lighter and thinner machine? Sort of, yes, I will take it if I can get it, but it is not top of my list. Its nice to be able to work when im "between wall sockets", but I need 4-5 hours tops on battery. Do I need 32gigs of RAM? Yes Please. Even if it shortens battery life? Yes please. What if I could have a setting in the System Preferences for "use only 16gigs when on battery"? I would be thrilled.

I would at least like to have the choice and not have Apple make the choice for me. The choice that longer battery life is more important to the sort of Pro I am than raw power.

Sadly, today it seems that term 'Pro' just means 'Top of the Apple range' and no longer 'The most powerful, and above all, usable laptop there is".

"Pro" is a meaningless moniker in-general now . There's now even a "Pro" version of the PS4, a gaming console FFS.

The fact that the baseline new 13" MBP is geared towards Air users but still carries the moniker only makes it look worse. Oh, and don't even get me started about calling an iPad running iOS "Pro".

 

[amegicfox]

While I pretty much agree with your characterization, whether it’s smart of Apple to not cater to these users in the long run is a different question entirely.

people STOP talking about 'catering to certain users'

only a foul would opt out of not having magsafe given the option

clueless tim screwed up the mac since he hates macs

he is trying to push iPads to make more money and do less maintenance

content creators are moving in droves

Tim needs to go

 

[bjeadeh]

People will buy it, just not professionals that need a tool like drafting table, for music, for audio, photography, videography, etc. A headphone jack does not make it professional. Is he saying that the iPhone 7 is not for professionals? Ok, got it, i won't be buying the iPhone 7 because I am a professional. And what is more cumbersome, a slot on the side of the computer for my SD cards, or an adapter from a flimsy USB C to a gigantic hub that I need to carry on the plane with me? Oh did I mention that the adapter apple is selling only converts to USB 3, and that I cannot hook all my devices up at one time? Sure over time we will get a hub adapter that does all of this, but I am a professional that needs to work on a plane or in the back of a car. An adapter is way more cumbersome.

What the heck Apple?

 

[jameslmoser]

Yep, online shopping has dramatically increased since the last time MBP had any kind of significant update

good point!

 

[simonmet]

Hasn't Apple usually released 15" and 13" models separately in the past? I'm sure that was the case with the original rMBP in 2012, or am I confusing things?

This would go a long way toward explaining Schiller's comment. Easy to get most ever orders when you're combining two or three products that were launched separately in the past.

 

[MasterControl]

"Pro" is a meaningless moniker in-general now . There's now even a "Pro" version of the PS4, a gaming console FFS.

The fact that the baseline new 13" MBP is geared towards Air users but still carries the moniker only makes it look worse. Oh, and don't even get me started about calling an iPad running iOS "Pro".

So, now we have fear of the word "Pro"! Apple cannot use the word "Pro" in their product naming. It sends the wrong message! It's meaningless! What does "Pro" mean, anyway?

Peacock feathers!

 

[BlackLight]

Every manufacturer that releases a new or upgraded product should release a statement like this. Just amazing marketing

 

[Ghost31]

I had to go back to the article when I saw your quote.

Headphone jack = pro machine but the SD Card Slot that literally every Pro photographer uses every day is cumbersome? This is just an excuse to defend removing an important port in favor of a port(USB-C) that isn't being used on 95+% of computers and for thinness.

Just curious because I don't really know. Why can't pro photographers plug their camera in with a USB cable? Or hell. A new USB c cable with higher transfer speeds? Wouldn't that actually be better?

 

[Jim Lahey]

Haha. ****ing hell. Some of you guys would struggle to find a positive in the birth of your firstborn.

 

[dredlew]

"We care about what they love and what they are worried about."

LOL.

Yea, please make the next MacBook Pro even thinner .... its just too ****ing thick. Jesus.

Exactly. It's one thing to "know" and dictate what consumers want. But I find it downright arrogant dictating how professionals should do their work. There is nothing in these MacBook Pro's the professionals asked about and nothing they are worried about has been addressed. Seriously, that top-down attitude needs to go.

 

[peterdevries]

Sold more than any other MBP? That means nothing. It's called inflation. It's kind of how like 1 million dollars used to be a really big deal, and now it's 1 billion.

Selling any higher number of premium high margin laptops in a shrinking market definitely means something. And it doesn't have anything to do with inflation...

 

[H2SO4]

How can you interview him and not ask him about 1) the pricing 2) the need for a dongle to connect your iphone 3) desktops?

Because they’ll never get the chance for a second interview if they frag him off.

 

[jameslmoser]

Selling any higher number of premium high margin laptops in a shrinking market definitely means something. And it doesn't have anything to do with inflation...

Not really, this is ONLINE orders, as pointed out here people have been waiting for years for a refresh, and people buy a lot more online now than they did during the last refresh.

 

[morgmorg]

Yes - I ordered it maxed out (15", i7-6920HQ, 2TB SSD, amd 460 graphics), it does not have a touch screen but for all other tasks it is more then powerful enough, it is beautiful, it is able to run MacOs X, Windows and Linux.

There are a plenty of adapters for the thunderbolt 3 port - we should not have any problem with that.

Me too . Maxed out. I actually ordered 3 of them for 15.000 Eur. Really.

 

[maxolson]

Apple is obviously doomed and nobody is going to buy the new MBP's.

I trust you are being sarcastic.

 

[justperry]

Seems to me the media, in this case The Independent, are always asking the wrong questions.

Questions like:

Why did Apple remove the startup sound?

Why did Apple remove the Magsafe?

Why remove the iconic illuminated Apple Logo?

and so on....

 

[amegicfox]

You are not holding it right....you are thinking this wrong .....deja vu!

Who in their right mind will pay 3500$ plus for a laptop that is going to become obsolete in 5 years......wait., maybe it's worth it,given the pace and nature of courageous innovation, maybe this is it.....no more ground breaking stuff for the the next 10 years .

I am going to take my 2011 mcbk pro to the shoe shine and jazz it up. No new mcbk pro for me.

macbook pros are already obsolete

no baby lake processors, no magsafe, no SD card slot, no touch screen, no matte screen, no wireless charging

 

[artbeforedeath]

They say that touchscreen is a bad experience? LOL well then basically they are saying that the iPad and iPhone are a bad experience? So silly apple, I would love to be able to use the pencil on a macbook pro thats what so many people are wanting. Wake up

 

[544263]

macbook pros are already obsolete
no baby lake processors, no magsafe, no SD card slot, no touch screen, no matte screen, no wireless charging

please, let me finish this one for you:

no baby lake processors, no magsafe, no SD card slot, no touch screen, no matte screen, no wireless charging, no macbook.

 

[cult hero]

The main complaint is the +$500 price bump. Machines are ok.

That's where I'm at. Heck, I really LIKE the machines but... the price is too high. If you're buying this machine to last a while, it needs 16GB of RAM, which should be standard on the top tier 13". It isn't, so the premium there is more like $700. Too rich for my blood on something that was in no way necessary given my current laptop.