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That's one area where I could see something like this helping the disabled, even mild vision problems. Smart focusing glasses, but it'll be awhile, not a V1. :)


There's a big problem with that, while it could show the image to me in the right way, even as f'd up as my eyes are (Duane Syndrome), but my brain wouldn't know how to handle it. It's been kind of proven that correcting vision in severe strabismus cases over a certain age, it doesn't let them see in 3D. Humans learn that very young as our brains are being wired to the world.

It's a cool thought though. I truly wonder if it's that much different.

But not being able to see in 3D isn't so bad, it's nothing different than normal past 20 or 25 feet, then everyone sees distances by perspective. That's the way I see in close and it doesn't look anymore flat than I suspect it does to others. Unfortunately the 3D image trick just looks like 2 unrelated separate images to me.
Ah, I see. That makes sense that after a while, your brain would just stop trying to interpret things that way.

As to how much it is different, I would not say it is radically different. For those of us with stereoscopic vision, we can see the 3D in movies that include it but don’t really miss it all that much in a 2D movie. With monocular vision you can approximate some of it by moving your head from side to side a little and focussing on how things at different distances shift relative to each other. You are spot on about stereo being useless at longer distances. We’d have to have eyes on stalks to see it further out. 😊

My father lost an eye as a child and it never seemed to hold him back. He was a machinist, a carpenter, a hunter, and he raced cars now and then. He didn’t seem to struggle in any of those tasks. I can certainly see why someone would not be bothered to much about not seeing in stereo.
 
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Thankful to live in Colorado with lots of trails and real-world things to do. I'm not too fond of the looks of this and the long-term effects on youth who I fear may replace real-world experiences by subjecting themselves to the potential loneliness of using a headset.
I think it's import for people to "touch grass", but I don't really see VR as problematic if it's just replacing other screens in people's lives. VR is a tool. It could make some people more social, and others less social. It can connect some, and isolate others. It can be more or less ergonomic than a person's current work environment. It can make some people more active, and others less active. It can be used to increase accessibility, or decrease it.

Where I live, there can sometimes be a month of smoky air from wildfires. It can be too hot for outdoor activities. Sometimes staying inside is the only decent choice.

But I'm more interested in replacing some of the current screens in my life with VR/AR, rather than adding AR to dog walks and hiking trails.
 
Exceeding rival devices doesn't mean much.

We just seeing hype build up, then influencer and marketing hype if the product gets releases, then after the hype dies the forums will be full of the same complaints that all hardware and software has.

The en********ation of software that is coming out of all tech companies makes putting buggy **** software on your face tied to your movements a no-no for me.

Apple can't even get streaming from Macs/iPhones to the HomePod done without lags, freezing and pops and this is presumably a much easier task than the goggles because streaming over bluetooth to earphones doesn't have these issues.
 
Two things about this:

1. Of course this will have capabilities that "far exceed" rival devices. Apple is probably the leading company in HW development in the world and all the premium component producers in the world are Apple's suppliers.

(That doesn't mean it will or won't succeed, but this part of the equation was a given)

2. It's amazing how consistently the $3000 pricepoint keeps getting mentioned in all these rumors. I'd bet money this is all intentionally planted by Apple, just as it was with the pricing of the OG iPad prior to its release. My guess is that the real price is more likely to be around $1500.
 
I'm very sceptical about the immediate use case for AR/VR, although I'm simultaneously convinced that some version of AR/VR will eventually catch on for some use cases when the tech matures, shrinks, becomes more capable and, most importantly, cheaper.

So far some people seem to be convinced that this will replace every screen in people's lives. That's a stretch and I think people's imagination is running a bit wild here. Who would want to wear chunky goggles on their face every day and all the time just to work on their computer or watch TV, as some have suggested.

Maybe, and that's a big maybe, if the tech could sit in regular glasses or contact lenses, but certainly not in ski goggles. That doesn't mean that there won't be some use cases where such goggles will be useful, e.g. in some fields working on 3D or surgery, but your average consumer isn't going to buy multiple $3k headsets to avoid buying a monitor or TV.
 
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Thankful to live in Colorado with lots of trails and real-world things to do. I'm not too fond of the looks of this and the long-term effects on youth who I fear may replace real-world experiences by subjecting themselves to the potential loneliness of using a headset.

This concern is as old as the mass availability of paperback books, though.
 
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I've wanted something like this for years - but let me be clear - I've wanted there to be a compelling reason to get one. There's been no "killer app" in this space, it's been all novelty. The one device that I "got convinced" about was the Watch. I had no idea I'd become a runner and now I can't live without it.

At $3000 I'd get a LOT more use out of a Mac mini Pro or Mac Studio and have money left over (I use my MacBook Pro mostly in clamshell mode and it's a hassle to wire & de-wire when I travel so I'm eventually getting a desktop to complement the laptop).
 
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Sounds like an expensive Alpha test buyin for those who want one to me not that I am into any VR devices personally. I would spend my 3 K on more powerful computing devices personally
1st Apple Watch was a bit like that. (Alpha test)
 
MacRumors keeps regurgitating these trash articles and the sad part is, we always take the bate. Myself included of course. 🤣 This headset is DOA, if it ever arrives, trust me. I buy almost every new tech product I can get my hands on, at least to try it out, and I will absolutely not be buying this. AR/VR is 10+ years away from being halfway decent.
 
On AR/VR, yes. I think they're just stupid gimmicks and I have no use for them.
So you've used a bunch of different AR/VR devices then? Sounds like you have some insider knowledge about Apple's offering here too that's convinced you that you have no use for this. Can you share any of those details?
 
Finally got my PSVR2 and going through the AR setup process was pretty cool even though I've used VR for years. The big question will be what software will be available. When I FaceTime people, it's because I want to see their face, not their avatar. And working out with a face hugging mask on doesn't sound appealing because of the sweat and any motion will move the headset around.
Yes, this! I don't even keep my regular glasses on when exercising. I certainly wouldn't want a big headset (tethered to a battery!?) on while trying to workout. Hate to say it, but this seems to go back to Tim Cook's persistent push for AR, which never really took off. I don't see how this will either. It's like actually being on a roller coaster vs being 'on one' in 'AR': there's simply no comparison.

Fwiw, I think Apple should consider something along the lines of the Lululemon Studio Mirror, excect it would serve uses well beyond exercising (Apple Home Hub, Home Pod speaker, etc.).
 
I see no one asking the most basic question which is: how is Apple going to properly demo something that really needs to be experienced in person? Sure they’ll have a bunch of snazzy videos and pictures. But what does 4K per eye actually look like in real life? I personally don’t want to go to an Apple Store and slap something on my face that hundreds of others wore on their oily foreheads before me.
 
For whatever it’s worth, Palmer Luckey said on Twitter that he’s been very impressed by the headset which he seems to have. He also said his contacts in Apple are very confident in the product.

Nobody should listen to Palmer, he had one moment and has been an idiot ever since. I wouldn’t trust a word he says, he just wants attention.

Even if you somehow ignore his political crap, regarding Apple he said stuff like this:

 
While it remains to be seen what the headset's biggest selling point will be, its capabilities "far exceed those of competitors,"
"We don't know who will actually buy it, but competitors have been bested.....whoever those competitors are.....for the customers who we don't know about."
 
I see no one asking the most basic question which is: how is Apple going to properly demo something that really needs to be experienced in person? Sure they’ll have a bunch of snazzy videos and pictures. But what does 4K per eye actually look like in real life? I personally don’t want to go to an Apple Store and slap something on my face that hundreds of others wore on their oily foreheads before me.
Tim sitting on stage in a quiet room while he says "Oooooohhhh" and "Aahhhhhhhh" and "Wowwwww!"
 
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