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Didn’t get my first iPod until the iPod Touch 3, iPhone 4s, iPad Pro 12.9 rev 2, MacBook Pro with Touchbar M1 model.

If that tells you anything, I won’t be in the market for a while. I hope they have many demo units at the store and lots of Purell to keep them clean. My ears starts itching everytime I try the AirPods Max at the Apple Store everytime.
 


The Wall Street Journal on Friday outlined what to expect from Apple's long-rumored AR/VR headset project, corroborating several details previously reported by Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and The Information's Wayne Ma.

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Apple headset mockup by designer Ian Zelbo

The report indicates that Apple plans to unveil the headset at WWDC in June, and says many sessions at the conference will be related to developing software for the headset. However, the news outlet claims that mass production of the headset isn't expected to begin until September due to manufacturing delays. Apple is said to be "anticipating some production issues" with the headset, but there are no specific details.

The headset is expected to have an internal screen for virtual reality, while outward-facing cameras would allow users to view the real world inside the headset with augmented reality overlays. This combination is known as "mixed reality."

Other details corroborated by the report include the headset being "experimental" and "unconventional" relative to most other Apple products, costing around $3,000, and having a waist-mounted external battery pack. FaceTime, Apple Fitness+, and gaming could be three major use cases for the headset, the report adds.

While it remains to be seen what the headset's biggest selling point will be, its capabilities "far exceed those of competitors," according to some sources cited in the report. Apple's headset is said to offer "greater levels of performance and immersion" than some competing devices, like Facebook parent company Meta's Quest Pro headset.

WWDC begins with Apple's keynote on June 5, meaning that Apple's headset is likely just weeks away from finally being unveiled to the public.

Article Link: Apple Headset's Capabilities Said to 'Far Exceed' Those of Rival Devices
I am not sure in which ways one could be more productive, creative, and „communicative“ with AR/VR glasses than with an iPhone, iPad, or Mac. But I am 100% sure that the WWDC keynote will have record viewing numbers and once the set is released, visitation in Apple Stores will go up significantly … well, if they have enough sets on hand to meet trying-out demands 😊
 
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Not buying a first gen product.
i will be my usual stubborn, contrarian, all-over-the-place self because that’s one of my favorite parts of being on this forum full of people who share my passion for :apple:😝💜

talking down a product just cause it’s first-gen is weaksauce; there are tons of reasons to pick this particular product apart, it’s making me nervous [read: as someone who literally has money invested in AAPL, I’m not that much of a simp]—but my father bought the first-gen iPhone, I bought the first-gen AW, and our instinct for a killer product was on the money like father, like son. (he’s the one who inspired my love for Apple, so I’ll admit my own bias here.)

am I wary of a proper use case for this headset? totally. is that exclusively because it’s first-gen? absolutely not.
 
The cost far exceeds competitors too,

is it ?

$3,500

$3,2000
https://www.engadget.com/magic-leap-2-ar-glasses-price-release-date-180041487.html



but I’m not sure customers’ needs far exceed the current market offerings.

Which customers . The gaming for giggles crowd may not be the primary target .

Those are not the only possible targets



VR. Isnt necessarily the primary target here .
 
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That’s great but still not worth $3000 USD in my opinion. I will only buy it and not return it if Tim Cook does the demonstration himself. 🤫🥽
It's possible that Apple is actually leaking the USD3,000 price itself. It could be a way to raise industry expectations of an "expensive" product. That way, when the product is actually released at USD1,499, people will flock to it in droves 😉

I think we underestimate Apple's power to manipulate market expectations.

Then again, it would be no surprise to see this positioned as a premium product with a correspondingly high price tag...
 
This is what the future may look like but I don't think Apple is nowhere close. The hardware will be there but not the software.

For some reason this makes me want to go out and interact with human beings and make new friends.
No offense to anyone here, but online forums often make me want to go out and interact with live human beings and make new friends... 😏 (Not that anyone is not a human being here...)

Saying that might make me a bot!

Joking aside, I'm not sure why anyone would bother wearing VR glasses or goggles in public places like that, unless it gave them some much-needed assistance that they normally couldn't have without them, and they didn't mind looking like a fool and looking at the world through a filter. If the technology really slims down to the point where it's unnoticeable, I'm sure its popularity in the public eye will increase.

Isn't it a little frightening to think that people who are wearing those things might be able to instantly scan you as they walk by you, and quickly call up all relevant social profiles? I can see that future coming eventually, once the technology makes it possible. Creepier and creepier. We can of course snap photos of people with our smartphones and do image searches on them now, but it's not as easy, and it's very easily noticed. I wouldn't dare.

I'm still sure I would not wear them, and it's not for me. Would rather see the world outside through my own eyes. Maybe there are medical and technical professionals who will benefit from this, though. For instance, surgeries, car repairs and home maintenance and so on. Like any technology, it will have its benefits to society, and also some drawbacks and scary implications to deal with.
 
If that tells you anything, I won’t be in the market for a while. I hope they have many demo units at the store and lots of Purell to keep them clean. My ears starts itching everytime I try the AirPods Max at the Apple Store everytime.
Yes, the discomfort of wearing wearable products for a long time is something that all manufacturers including Apple will have to deal with. Even the most comfortable headphones can be a bother after worn for a few hours.
 
I can think of two scenarios that might lead to this device succeeding. First of all, it could be rented by the hour at an arcade—think Dave and Buster’s.
Second, it might have a use for disabled persons to virtually experience mobility, perhaps even to the point of augmenting physical rehabilitation. I think if I were bedridden that I would welcome another form of engagement beyond family visits, reading, radio and television.
In 2019.

When being interviewed, Cook said, "If you zoom out into the future, and you look back, and you ask the question, ‘What was Apple’s greatest contribution to mankind? It will be about health".

There was no, maybe. The Apple Watch was taking hold and ECG etc was being added. AR was starting to be developed by Apple. I think Apple have a clear goal on AR and how the goggles will contribute to Health.

Take vision impaired who can not see peripherally. These googles could absolutely improve that experience. Whatever it is, the AR Googles WILL improve the lives of people with health impairments. That has GOT to be worth $3000.
 
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No offense to anyone here, but online forums often make me want to go out and interact with live human beings and make new friends... 😏 (Not that anyone is not a human being here...)

Saying that might make me a bot!

Joking aside, I'm not sure why anyone would bother wearing VR glasses or goggles in public places like that, unless it gave them some much-needed assistance that they normally couldn't have without them, and they didn't mind looking like a fool and looking at the world through a filter. If the technology really slims down to the point where it's unnoticeable, I'm sure its popularity in the public eye will increase.

Isn't it a little frightening to think that people who are wearing those things might be able to instantly scan you as they walk by you, and quickly call up all relevant social profiles? I can see that future coming eventually, once the technology makes it possible. Creepier and creepier. We can of course snap photos of people with our smartphones and do image searches on them now, but it's not as easy, and it's very easily noticed. I wouldn't dare.

I'm still sure I would not wear them, and it's not for me. Would rather see the world outside through my own eyes. Maybe there are medical and technical professionals who will benefit from this, though. For instance, surgeries, car repairs and home maintenance and so on. Like any technology, it will have its benefits to society, and also some drawbacks and scary implications to deal with.
Why would people look like fools? I see that if they are wearing them, they have a reason.
 
It's possible that Apple is actually leaking the USD3,000 price itself. It could be a way to raise industry expectations of an "expensive" product. That way, when the product is actually released at USD1,499, people will flock to it in droves 😉


possible but not likely .
If the components match the reported prices alongside them then a pretty good chance prices are right .
Two bleeding edge 4K micro displays …. Not cheap. ( competitors mostly using significantly cheaper components )

At least one completely custom silicon package only used in this headset … not cheap ( MS hololens has custom co-processor .. need leading to low costs . Another 3K zone headset )
This thread motivated by a report that untethered performance significa better than competition . That light mean some highly tuned custom silicon to do that without killing the battery life.

Very precise eye tracking … not cheap .

bucketload of cameras. … ( that precisely match the custom video inferencing )

custom lightweight lenses … not cheap .


I think we underestimate Apple's power to manipulate market expectations.

Like when the Mac Pro entry price increased 100% ( $3K -> $6K ) ?

Then again, it would be no surprise to see this positioned as a premium product with a correspondingly high price tag...

Not shocking folks , like with a $1K monitor stand … just the stand , might be a good thing too.
 
It's possible that Apple is actually leaking the USD3,000 price itself. It could be a way to raise industry expectations of an "expensive" product. That way, when the product is actually released at USD1,499, people will flock to it in droves 😉

I think we underestimate Apple's power to manipulate market expectations.

Then again, it would be no surprise to see this positioned as a premium product with a correspondingly high price tag...
Can you imagine a person who is almost completely blind who has visual sense of detail walking around with haptics, and colour notifications telling them where kerbs are, or people walking etc. due to LiDAR built in. It would be amazing.

No one said the AR Goggles are aimed at gamers to release themselves from a monitor. No one said it isn’t either.

Health, health and more health.
 
It's possible that Apple is actually leaking the USD3,000 price itself. It could be a way to raise industry expectations of an "expensive" product. That way, when the product is actually released at USD1,499, people will flock to it in droves 😉

I think we underestimate Apple's power to manipulate market expectations.

Then again, it would be no surprise to see this positioned as a premium product with a correspondingly high price tag...
True. I remember leading up to the original iPad announcement, rumors were that it would cost over $1,000. Then when they announced the $499 price, everyone was amazed.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up being a repeat of the Apple Watch launch. Everyone was saying that it was a stupid product who needs it and that they aren’t planning on getting it and then it released to fairly lukewarm reception, and then it was only after a couple years that everyone wanted one.
 
is it ?

$3,500

$3,2000
https://www.engadget.com/magic-leap-2-ar-glasses-price-release-date-180041487.html





Which customers . The gaming for giggles crowd may not be the primary target .

Those are not the only possible targets



VR. Isnt necessarily the primary target here .
Those are transparent AR devices. Based on all rumors so far, the Apple headset will be opaque. The highest-end opaque headsets currently available that I’m aware of is the Varjo line-up, which range from $1990 for the base model (plus $ for base stations and controllers), up to $6495 plus a required annual subscription cost of $1495 for the most advanced model. And those all need to be plugged into a computer.
https://b2b-store.varjo.com/

If the Apple Reality Pro is $3000 for most of the rumored features, it will be quite a good value compared to other higher end headsets on the market.

But the question is whether Apple can use that more advanced technology to provide enough value to the customer over lower-end options. Meta has largely failed to do that with their Quest Pro, from what I’ve gathered. And with the Reality Pro, 4K per eye probably won’t be an important improvement over 2K per eye for applications like fitness and gaming. For example, Beat Saber would look nicer in 4K, but even 1K per eye is plenty for the experience it offers. 4K won’t make fitness better.
 
Why would people look like fools? I see that if they are wearing them, they have a reason.
All right, I concede your point. I was being a little harsh.

You might agree, though, that the "spectacle" (pun intended) of a gaggle of human beings wearing goggles to "enhance their reality" is a bit unnatural.

Of course, we do a lot of things that would not have seemed "natural" two centuries ago, like riding inside these metal boxes that carry us from place to place.
 
True. I remember leading up to the original iPad announcement, rumors were that it would cost over $1,000. Then when they announced the $499 price, everyone was amazed.
Great example. That's exactly what I was remembering. I think I had been following the rumors before that original iPad launched, and I think most people's jaw dropped when they realized it was actually within their financial reach.
 
Can you imagine a person who is almost completely blind who has visual sense of detail walking around with haptics, and colour notifications telling them where kerbs are, or people walking etc. due to LiDAR built in. It would be amazing.

No one said the AR Goggles are aimed at gamers to release themselves from a monitor. No one said it isn’t either.

Health, health and more health.
Yes, there will certainly be some very valid and socially helpful uses for the technology, agreed.
 
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