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Apple Highlights Women's Health Study Data to Help 'Destigmatize Menstruation'
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The stigmatization of menstruation in India first came to my attention two summers ago when I led a professional development seminar for visiting faculty from that country. They were here (in the US) studying community-based documentary film-making in part to advance their effort of using popular media to fight against the pervasive stigma of mensturation in their country. Part of their inspiration was Period: End of Sentence, a documentary on Netflix that you could Google in half a second if you wanted. I’m quite confident you won’t look into the film, just as I’m confident you didn’t read any of the articles that have been posted though, so that’s fine.
This isn’t about embarrassing. Erections are embarrassing. Passing gas is embarrassing. Having your performance at work, your attitude when with others, your personal hygiene, even your potential threat to society glibly explained away as “being on the rag” or “getting a visit from Aunt Flo” or — this is the one I really had to talk with my daughter about — “lady problems” is a stigma.
Your recent “I’m male” card is obnoxious and has nothing to do with any of this. I get that you’re going to keep at it. My posts are more for the other readers here. Your claims are inaccurate, based exclusively on your own statements of the world but devoid of any supporting evidence.
We have been talking about the West, I don't deny that India has issues it seems. Which I've already stated, you probably would've seen it if you calmed down a bit when reading my non controversial posts. But again, for the millionth time, that's likely a larger issue of gender roles and cultural, that needs to be looked at. In any case, we've been talking about America and the supposed 'stigmatization of menstruation' in America, which I maintain is a whole heap of nonsense over here.
I would've assumed you'd known that from reading my posts but should never assume I suppose!
and not sure what 'I'm male card' you're referring to lol! I am a male, sure, and I said it so that I can express my perspective void of being asked 'are you a male?' or 'then yeah you have no right to have an opinion" as I expected from some but not all - please spare me the predictable boring ass outrage and sexist remarks that are totally cool because you're a female.
I wouldn't treat you the same - You aren't exempt from having an opinion of 'male matters,' whatever that is, as a female. It's not 'you wouldn't get it' condescension. have an opinion, am I supposed to care or something?
but yeah no card involved whatsoever. Thanks for trying though. It was a noble effort.
and thanks for saying that your posts are for others when directly characterizing me - much appreciated
You did each of those wrong.
No, you can‘t get free deodorant, but smelling bad is stigmatized.
No, you probably can’t get rent paid for, but being homeless is stigmatized.
No, you likely can’t get your tires paid for when they eventually lose traction, but in places with no punlicensed transit (like where I live) not having reliable transportation is stigmatized.
No, you can’t get gas for free, but see above.
Tampons aren’t stigmatized. Women who menstruate are stigmatized.
Breasts aren’t stigmatized. Women who breastfeed their children in public are stigmatized.
Penises aren’t stigmatized. Boys who like them are stigmatized.
You haven’t proven anything. Where is the proof that it’s a widespread stigma in the U.S.? You’ve got squat.
The responses in this thread are very indicative of the logically bankrupt arguments.
Elaborate. Re-using the word as evidence it is so doesn't work here.
i.e. Ice cream is delicious because it is DELICIOUS.
oh ok! Very convinced now.
My point was not to “prove“ the stigma — you won’t accept the study in the original piece, won’t accept additional articles, and insist that only you have the evidence — nothing I’ll present here will do anything for that. My response there was pointing out that you don’t seem to understand the relationship between the things (tampons; or in your poorly-structured examples, deodorant and gas and tires) and the people.
The key to understating the US is understanding that it isn't actually one country.
“San Francisco isn't in the same country as Lakeside any more than New Orleans is in the same country as New York or Miami is in the same country as Minneapolis.... They may share certain cultural signifiers - money, a federal government, entertainment; it's the same land, obviously - but the only things that give it the illusion of being one country are the greenback, The Tonight Show, and McDonald's.”
― Neil Gaiman, American Gods
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Imagine presumably being a grown adult and thinking sjws are real lmao
The article this discussion is presumably about, included some statements on stigmatization:
To which these replies were given:
When people replied with examples, the goalposts suddenly got pushed back...
Now it needs to be “widespread” and “all-consuming” - terms pushed into the discussion by this post. This is the textbook definition of a strawman argument. Manufacture an argument that is not the one initially presented, then explain how this fabricated argument is flawed. Once evidence was presented that stigmatization was real, the argument got changed. This was followed by:
So, now it needs to be proven, widespread, and in the U.S. specifically.
What’s next? Requiring video evidence of every single woman on the planet being shamed?
To which these replies were given:
When people replied with examples, the goalposts suddenly got pushed back...
Now it needs to be “widespread” and “all-consuming” - terms pushed into the discussion by this post. This is the textbook definition of a strawman argument. Manufacture an argument that is not the one initially presented, then explain how this fabricated argument is flawed. Once evidence was presented that stigmatization was real, the argument got changed. This was followed by:
So, now it needs to be proven, widespread, and in the U.S. specifically.
What’s next? Requiring video evidence of every single woman on the planet being shamed?
An American friend told me his wife was thrown out of a mall for breastfeeding in public. But maybe it’s different from state to state.
Since some of the other health calculations assume your selected sex is your sex, not gender, it would make sense to use that to auto-hide things like cycle tracking in the health app if you select male.
That has some general logic to it, but I think part of the problem is ignorance.
Hiding the functionality would just add to this. Instead, the presence of the app could help normalise menstruation as a biological process in the sense that the more something is present rather than shut away and not discussed, it’s not seen as “something we don’t talk about”.
Where in the civilized world are women being asked to leave home. Small tribes in remote spots don’t count. That’s not civilized society. By choice.
erections are embarrassing? Why? A good fart is great. Embarrassing not really. I ripped ass. Not a big deal. Sounds like you are the one uncomfortable with bodily functions.
sayin someone is on the rag is nothing. And if your insulted, I don’t know what to say.
My dude I think you got lost on your way to the 1850s imperial civil servant roleplay zone
Mac rumors is a cool website for men who like to touch computers and say white nationalist things and are also definitely normal irl.
How so? Can you answer the question? How is my post untruthful.
Is any “modern” country asking women to leave their home because of their period?
If your talking about “civilized” tribes. You know what I meant. Some small tribe deep in the Amazon jungle that wants nothing to do with the “civilized” world is different.
Can we have a list of countries you’d consider acceptable before doing the legwork for you?
Nepal and India immediately come to mind. They both have electricity and running water.
The Nepal situation is sending women to huts outside every month; it was such a big problem that the government had to outlaw it, but it still happens a lot because the taboo is stronger than people worrying about breaking the law.
Nepalese Girls Share Stories of Period Shame in This Short Documentary
Bathing in the river, sleeping in an isolated hut — these are their stories.
In India, 23 million girls a year drop out of school when they get their first period due to the taboos, leading to a lack of information and shaming.
23 Million Women Drop Out Of School Every Year When They Start Menstruating In India
In India, 23 million girls drop out of school early when they start menstruating and many of them end up facing acute health problems
I do not understand why one would make claims without even doing the most basic research to see if their claims are true.
Not concerned about India and Nepal. Both are Basically 3rd world countriesNepal and India immediately come to mind. They both have electricity and running water.
The Nepal situation is sending women to huts outside every month; it was such a big problem that the government had to outlaw it, but it still happens a lot because the taboo is stronger than people worrying about breaking the law.
Nepalese Girls Share Stories of Period Shame in This Short Documentary
Bathing in the river, sleeping in an isolated hut — these are their stories.www.globalcitizen.org
In India, 23 million girls a year drop out of school when they get their first period due to the taboos, leading to a lack of information and shaming.
23 Million Women Drop Out Of School Every Year When They Start Menstruating In India
In India, 23 million girls drop out of school early when they start menstruating and many of them end up facing acute health problemsswachhindia.ndtv.com
I do not understand why one would make claims without even doing the most basic research to see if their claims are true.