That’s with the 64 mile range battery. The 128 mile range will be a $50k upgrade.
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Apple Hires Former Porsche Chassis Vice President for Apple Car Project
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Seriously.
Edited because I'm a better person than someone who praises korean and german vehicles.
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If you wanna do the whole battery life thing...
The Apple car would be the only one that can drive all day on a single charge, unlike all of the different google-powered cars that have to stop every 15 miles to plug in... yet hypocritically say that its the Apple drivers who are wall huggers.
They're all garbage too.
That's like saying you're the smartest redneck in the trailer park.
Edit: Suddenly replying to messages doesn't work. hyundai must have made the forum code.
That's like saying you're the smartest redneck in the trailer park.
Edit: Suddenly replying to messages doesn't work. hyundai must have made the forum code.
As I previously posted in a similar thread a month or so ago, Apple could utilise production partnerships with existing well known carmakers that already have established production lines for various tiers of Apple Cars.
Think of an entry-level Apple car built in partnership with Hyundai, utilising its pre-existing production line with heavy investment and direction from Apple. Followed by a medium-tier Apple car built in partnership with another automaker utilising that companies expertise and production line. On and on to higher-tier Apple cars or special use vehicles like off-road, sports & logistical, all utilising existing market leading automakers who compete for Apples business in producing Apple’s vehicles.
It’s only “impossible” if you think Apple is going be doing everything themself but just as Apple has refrained from purchasing the companies that produce its screens or chips for a large portion of its devices, Apple likely will not be the one producing the parts or assembly of its own cars, and instead left to the market to compete for its business.
I gave you facts on Hyundai dependability. Sorry if it’s painful to be wrong.
And 😂😂😂 on your German vehicle stance.
I think you have a general misunderstanding how car company work.
You cant just utilize something existing - that strategy didn’t work for VW - maybe the best company in the world.
You cant start with the cheap and small model - well you can if you are idiotic enough to be g m and get taxpayer money - but you have to start at least with middle class or above.
WE are battery constrained - all of the companies in fact!
Hence - to have a compelling product you need to invent a completely NEW skateboard and SW as VW is doing finally in version 2 trinity project.
Hyundai maybe has an entirely new e-platform of which iDknow but i highly doubt they give it to apple for apples.
Apple needs to have a great SW ready. - no not CarPlay and to be competitive a self driving solution which works!
All mentioned above speaks against your asumptions!
I wonder if Eddie Cue will take up that position? Hmmm.
Your kidney for the Apple Car, does that mean your son will have to work FT to pay for college or race your Apple Car to may the financing
Those are USA dollars, it would be assinine for Apple to launch for a year in USA only like they do with so many of their products.
More importantly their product will be luxury and to compete - leasing, autonomous car rentals, charging stations, etc will need to all be looked at and much more. I'm expecting $150K USA as a base.
This appointment is HUGE! Porsche has THE 2ND best chassis of any car (consumer or racing) ... Lotus being better since the 1960's. Their GT-4/GT-3/GT-3RS/GT-2/GT-2RS and LMS cars have proven this.
This is exactly why Apple aren’t doing what Tesla did and try to learn how to build cars themselves. There’s a very big difference between Tesla starting from scratch, and Hyundai starting from scratch. That said, I still don’t believe that Apple will disrupt from the bottom. Like I said, it will be built by Hyundai, not based on a Hyundai.
It won’t be super-luxury cars like McLarens either, though. Apple makes “everyday luxury”, not “luxury-luxury”. They (well, Ive) tried and failed with gold Apple watch... I’d say the Tesla S price point is a solid bet.
Yeah - lets see
I think it is impossible what you think! Even VW cant do it - Porsche hardly put together something like a Tesla competitor at a higher price - Audi failed.
Apple has no expertise just some guys and Hyundai especially Kia - i looked it up today - has a ridiculous EV platform and current offering!
I wonder if it will come with little apple stickers you can put all over the back windshield. 🤔.
But seriously though, partnering with Kia/Hyundai makes a lot of sense to me. They have their own steel manufacturing and advanced robotics that they develop themselves instead of outsourcing. Their lane centering technology is also fantastic. With good mechanical engineering coming from a Porsche chassis designer, I could see this partnership being surprisingly cheap (for an apple product) and pretty decent quality. But seeing as this might only be a "last mile" solution instead of a "car" car, I'd be willing to bet that it's a very well engineered golf cart that can go 45mph for 20 miles. And honestly? That doesn't seem too bad. EV vehicles used for long distance road trips are a little iffy for the general public anyway (in america at least). Apple might be vying for the kind of car that works well as a cheap/comfy daily commuter and only that.
But seriously though, partnering with Kia/Hyundai makes a lot of sense to me. They have their own steel manufacturing and advanced robotics that they develop themselves instead of outsourcing. Their lane centering technology is also fantastic. With good mechanical engineering coming from a Porsche chassis designer, I could see this partnership being surprisingly cheap (for an apple product) and pretty decent quality. But seeing as this might only be a "last mile" solution instead of a "car" car, I'd be willing to bet that it's a very well engineered golf cart that can go 45mph for 20 miles. And honestly? That doesn't seem too bad. EV vehicles used for long distance road trips are a little iffy for the general public anyway (in america at least). Apple might be vying for the kind of car that works well as a cheap/comfy daily commuter and only that.
I've put a little money into CCIV since it's expected that'll be Lucid's IPO. I wish them luck, but which dimension are you suggesting that Lucid's vehicle exceeds the Plaid+ on?
Inferior charging provided by EA (although 3 years free - that's probably worth $500-$2K), slower, lower range, less autonomous, from a company less well known.
The base vehicle is cheaper than the base Model S... although I just noticed that the prices they list are already factoring in the free charging + tax credits, so it's not really cheaper.
It'll be a tough sell - they're aiming entirely for luxury aesthetics/taste and hoping people won't notice it falls a bit short of the Model S in every objectively measurable way possible. Like I said - I wish them luck and I have a little bit invested in them, going with the assumption that they'll be able to make a nice #2 behind Tesla and solidly ahead of BMW.
I stand corrected on the range, do we know how fast the Tesla Plaid will recharge at home? What is the difference in speed? I prefer the interior of the Lucid and I also made a small investment into CCIV, their CEO stated yesterday that their primary competitor would not be Tesla but would be BMW/Mercedes and the other luxury brands, so, I think #2 would suit our investments just fine.
Of course, knock on wood, I hope CCIV actually completes the merger.
Their “current offering” is completely irrelevant.
Basking in how Tesla kills the auto industry coming from nothing, and the saying Apple can’t succeed because they don’t have expertise building cars, makes zero sense.
It makes sense in relation to the complete situation. Tesla as an energy company focused mainly on their car success.
Apple is already a successful company - already failed with titan as we know and is now on its second try.
ofCourse if they go all in with 100billion - they can do it - but who would give OK to such madness.
For me apple is like a small mom and pop shop - conservative and not really able to bring big innovation - they are just circling around their eco-system and are the most valuable company - which is just a sign how inferior their competition really is!
Apple could be de-throned easily - and huawei showed how easy it is even without having an own operating system.
I know almost no one will take my thoughts serious but i think its true - hard to really know without having true insight - but i only buy apple products because there is no competitor offering something similar - and i don’t understand it to be honest.
Well, Tesla is a competitor in mobility and hence - i will buy Tesla - from a today point of view - and i am really looking forward Tesla making their own OS which might be available in a kind of mobile device (phone, glasses, etc....) too.
If you look into the future - and google knows that (apple too) mobility devices like cars will be the place where we spend lots of time having time to do something - so the company which has a serious offer is a serious THREAT to google and apple.