I didn’t think a 15 minute fill up is reality yet in most cases. If it is, that’s a decent step. 15 minutes versus 5 still isn’t negligible to me. I spend 0 time at gas stations besides filling the car up which takes under 5 minutes.
15 minutes is a reality. V3 Superchargers are already open. They even recently opened up the V3 superchargers on Las Vegas strip.
I mean if you want to nitpick the details, you spend 5-10 minutes going to a gas station to fill up every week (include the round trip traveling time away from your route and time staying there). For Tesla owners, it only takes 5 seconds to plugin everyday. In a year, you spend 4-9 hours of "busy time" with a gas station. That equates to about 16-36 visits to a Supercharger in a year which is more than what a typical Tesla customer does. But even then, a Tesla driver isn't waiting at the Supercharger, they're having a meal, so they aren't really wasting time. You however can't really do anything at a gas station, so you're wasting 4-9 hours of your life at a gas station every year.
Civic is $19K. $16K extra plus tax buys a lot of maintenance and gas. Civics need practically 0 maintenance besides oil changes for the better part of 100,000 miles.
And in the end, energy isn’t free or green. You have a free charging station, but most people will have to pay most times and definitely if you want the fast fill up.
“According to the cost calculator available from the independent website Teslanomics, consumers would need to pay roughly $712.80 in charging costs annually for the lowest-cost Model 3, assuming a daily commute of 40 miles.”
Teslanomics calculator is not an indication of what people are doing on average. Regardless, $712.80 per year is still far cheaper than gas.
For a Civic, the 105,000 mile maintenance schedule is (taken from a Honda dealer website):
- Oil and filter change
- Inspect brakes for wear
- Lubricate throttle linkage
- Check and correct fluid levels
- Inspect tires and set tire pressure
- Rotate tires
- Lubricate chassis and hinges as required
- Replace oil drain plug, gasket
- Rotate and balance wheels and tires
- Inspect undercarriage
- Inspect crankcase filter
- Inspect shocks and struts
- Torque throttle body mount bolts
- Inspect throttle leakage
- Check and adjust clutch pedal freeplay as applicable
- Inspect distributor cap-rotor-wires
- Inspect A/C and heater operation
- Service transmission
- Check park brake adjustment
- Inspect all lights and wipers
- Oil and filter change
- Replace air filter
- Inspect for trans. leaks
- Level control
- Steering systems
- Fuel and break systems
- Replace spark plugs (if necessary)
- Inspect and adjust drive belts
- Inspect air filter elements
- Rotate tires
- Inspect brake system
- Adjust parking brake
- Check all exterior and interior lamps, windshield washer systems
- Lubricate throttle shafts
- Inspect drive shaft boots
- Inspect differential oil
- Inspect exhaust pipes and mountings
- Inspect steering gear box
- Inspect steering wheel, linkage, and boots
- Inspect road test vehicle
- Inspect ball joints and dust covers
- Inspect brake lines and hoses
- Inspect brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs
- Inspect automatic transmission fluid
- Replace windshield wiper insert(s)
- Re-torque drive shaft bolt
- Re-torque propeller shaft bolt
- Lubricate all hinges and latches, door locks and door weather-strips
- Lubricate propeller shaft
- Replace air conditioning filter
87 gas is like $2.65/gallon and the civic gets almost 40mpg. Assume 400 gallons of gas for a year driving 40 miles per day...that’s only $1,060 in gas for the Civic and it cost $16,000 less for the car.
Installing a charging station in your house also costs money.
Assuming $2.65 doesn't change, sure. When was the last time your electric rates changed (and how many times in the past several years)? I mean Just a few months ago, gas was $4.2/gal in California which is 58% more than what you calculated. Potentially you could be paying $1,540.30.
$1,540.30 - $712.80 = ~$800 which could pay for an installation of a home charger and a few months of charging just from one year of savings. Even better if you have solar.
Teslas do require some maintenance. The same site a referenced earlier says it’s $2800 over 5 years. They’ve also been unreliable, so million mile warranties mean nothing.
No. Go back to the site and plug in $0 for car loan, insurance, and energy costs, you'll see $0. There's no maintenance. The number you saw was for car payments, insurance, and energy costs. See: https://i.imgur.com/QKIlLN5.png
You seem to be assuming Tesla is somehow bad without having any evidence to back it up. You're refusing to listen to the facts. Also you seem to be brainwashed by all the false articles written about Tesla. So I'm going to end the conversation here. I wont be reading more comments from you.
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