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Apple Hires Nokia's Lumia Photography Lead to Work on the iPhone's Camera

maybe he can makeit focus faster, that is the worst part of using non-dedicated cameras, iPhone included
 
That is so hot! iPhone will soon replace my street photography set up.
 
Just wondering, at this stage of development, do you guys think the camera improvements will be ready in time for the 6, or the 6S instead?
 
This makes so much more sense than the Beats buyout rumor. Apple will get a lot more bang for its buck with this hire than wasting $3.2B on headphones that's universally looked down upon by opinion leaders and management/engineering talent that can be purchased for far less money.
 
R2FX said:
Yous twos are so funny…. in which cave have you been living??? iPhone 5S kicks ass from your Lumias which can't handle properly color cast and white balance, not to mention the advertising scam Nokia tried when they filmed Lumia add with a big ass camera and showed the footage as Lumia's.

And as someone who deals with phones in a telco busines, your pipedream about customers considering Lumia's for their cameras is a myth, people choose them purely price (especially subsidized) and then not wanting an Android.
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Look here and you'll change your mind: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/nokia/rio/main.html

All images here were shot with a Lumia 1020 by Stephen Alvarez.

Here too: http://connect.dpreview.com/post/5533410947/smartphones-versus-dslr-versus-film
 
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Apple has hired Nokia's Lumia photography chief Ari Partinen, reports Engadget. Partinen stated on his Twitter that he will be "starting a new chapter in Cupertino" this June, later confirming that he will join Apple.

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The Nokia 808 PureView with 41MP sensor ​

According to Partinen's LinkedIn biography, his responsibilities at Nokia included "working with image quality characterization and tuning on camera module level", while handling camera component production and quality control on a global scale. Partinen also lists the Nokia's 808 PureView and Nokia N8 as devices he has worked on, which were regarded for their noteworthy photographic capabilities.

Partinen's hire comes as Apple is reportedly looking to bolster the next-generation iPhone's camera through optical image stabilization and other improvements. Nokia has focused heavily on the advantages of the camera's on its devices throughout the past few years, recently launching the Nokia Lumia 1520 with a 20 MP PureView camera.

Article Link: Apple Hires Nokia's Lumia Photography Lead to Work on the iPhone's Camera
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Shall I expect that the nanoscopic sensor of the iPhone 5 will suddenly match my Sony A7r's, or its "lens" to compare to my Canon 70-200mm 2.8 IS II? Obviously, not. Why bother then?
Apple, here's a hint. A couple of hints. Why not:

- Hire the chaps from Liquipel, HZO or P2i to help see to it that your ridiculously-overpriced, ridiculously-limited-in-function devices aren't extremely prone to water damage?
- Why not open up the system to proper keyboards (read: Swype, etc.)?
- Integrate Wacom's digitising technology into the 5.x" / 6" iPhone 6?

Think about it, my dear, way too complacent Mr. Cook.
 
yjchua95 said:
Symbian marked the demise of Nokia, until Windows Phone swooped in and saved their bacon.
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Nokia was doing fine on the road to renovation until they committed suicide by hiring Elop.

And it is not "Lumia photography". The first PureView was with zombie (post WP announcement) Symbian.
 
R2FX said:
Yous twos are so funny…. in which cave have you been living??? iPhone 5S kicks ass from your Lumias which can't handle properly color cast and white balance, not to mention the advertising scam Nokia tried when they filmed Lumia add with a big ass camera and showed the footage as Lumia's.

And as someone who deals with phones in a telco busines, your pipedream about customers considering Lumia's for their cameras is a myth, people choose them purely price (especially subsidized) and then not wanting an Android.
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I gues we disagree and clearly Apple does also since they just hired Nokia's photography lead.:rolleyes:
 
EvilQueen said:
I gues we disagree and clearly Apple does also since they just hired Nokia's photography lead.:rolleyes:
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they didn't hire him because Lumia's are better than iPhone, but because they need his expertise for 'where the puck is going'… Apple patents related to camera optics that surfaced in the last 6-12 months show that they are on to something big and different, rather than playing megapixel game or cosying up to Zeiss for optics (Lumia's game)

so yeah, we disagree quite a bit :rolleyes:
 
yjchua95 said:
Pit the Lumia 1020 against any smartphone camera and the Lumia will blow everything out of the water.

Pit the iPhone 5S against the Galaxy S4/S5 and the iPhone still wins. It's not about the pixels - it's about the saturation, sharpness, color accuracy, contrast....etc.

I'm a full-time photographer myself, and I've tried Samsung's phone cameras. They can come close to that of the iPhone's, but can't really beat it.

But then, pit anything against the Lumia 1020 and they'll all lose.
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All opinion here and no fact. :rolleyes:
 
Menneisyys2 said:
While I do know you're a die-hard 808 fan and an opponent of anything Windows Phone, let me disagree: the 1020 delivers what one can realistically expect of such a sensor.
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I don't have anything against Windows Phone, I was actually hoping 1020 would be amazing.

If it had been better than 808 and had a microSD slot, I'd have bought it. I liked the design and materials (matte polycarbonate), and while Windows Phone lacked features and applications, it was still much better than Symbian.

Hopefully 1030 will beat 808 convincingly, but with all the Nokia engineers defecting the company, I'm staying a bit sceptical.
 
Menneisyys2 said:
Won't happen. Unfortunately - again, it's the lack of thickness that makes it impossible to put a large sensor in the iPhone.
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And a larger battery, and a lens with greater focal length. Come to think of it, Apple's obsession with thin comes as a detriment to just about everything else other than "cool factor" which wears off as soon as every other person has the same phone, but you're still stuck with features that could have been much better for at least the next year.
 
LeoNobilis said:
Shall I expect that the nanoscopic sensor of the iPhone 5 will suddenly match my Sony A7r's, or its "lens" to compare to my Canon 70-200mm 2.8 IS II? Obviously, not. Why bother then?
Apple, here's a hint. A couple of hints. Why not:

- Hire the chaps from Liquipel, HZO or P2i to help see to it that your ridiculously-overpriced, ridiculously-limited-in-function devices aren't extremely prone to water damage?
- Why not open up the system to proper keyboards (read: Swype, etc.)?
- Integrate Wacom's digitising technology into the 5.x" / 6" iPhone 6?

Think about it, my dear, way too complacent Mr. Cook.
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And your way to patronising. The camera is limited in user control granted but are no more prone to water damage than any other non submerseval device.

The good thing about Apples system is its secure nature so I will take that over fancy yet pointless keyboards.

Apple are working on alternatives to Wacoms technology going by patents that have been filed noting pressure sensitivity to accurately map screen location.

Tim is making big plays of late, including executives and company aquisitions. He is fiding what is best for their long term direction not buying anything they can aka the Google strategy.
 
pti6ity said:
Speaking of purchases, Apple should buy Lytro. This is good stuff. I do hope they put a larger sensor into their phones, but what will that do to battery life?
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Lytro screwed up big time by trying to become a consumer products company instead of just licensing their tech.

While Lytro's trying to get people to buy their $1500 cameras, competitors like Pelican Imaging have shrunk Lytro style tech onto a chip that can be stuck in a smartphone. And while everyone's waiting for the Pelican cameras to come to market, both phone MFG's and app creators figured out how to simulate lightfield by taking multiple pictures.
 
yjchua95 said:
Let me guess, a 41MP PureView from the Lumia 1020 will soon make its way into the iPhone.
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According to many of you on this forum, iPhone already has better camera than L1020. The 41MP is just a gimmick, the 1/1.5 sensor is inferior to iPhone's camera because iphone has bigger pixel and the EIS is superior to the OIS. No reason to be excited.
 
Liquorpuki said:
Lytro screwed up big time by trying to become a consumer products company instead of just licensing their tech.

While Lytro's trying to get people to buy their $1500 cameras, competitors like Pelican Imaging have shrunk Lytro style tech onto a chip that can be stuck in a smartphone. And while everyone's waiting for the Pelican cameras to come to market, both phone MFG's and app creators figured out how to simulate lightfield by taking multiple pictures.
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TBH I never even heard of the Pelican but wow that's interesting. Apparently it might come next year. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Peli...15-digital-imaging-has-run-out-of-gas_id51524
 
Late in the development stage

It's too late in the development stage to see big change in the iPhone 6. Maybe iPhone 6s.
 
This is good news for Apple. Nokia Lumia's are fantastic phones and the camera's are simply stunning.

Would not surprise me to see Apple also take some design queue's from Lumia's. Ever since the iPhone 4 I think iphones have been ugly and somewhat cheap feeling. The iPhone 4 remains my favourite ever phone, but it is closely followed by the Lumia range from the 920 upwards.
 
slash7844 said:
According to many of you on this forum, iPhone already has better camera than L1020. The 41MP is just a gimmick, the 1/1.5 sensor is inferior to iPhone's camera because iphone has bigger pixel and the EIS is superior to the OIS. No reason to be excited.
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Whoever said that is insane. I think you're trolling.
 
Renzatic said:
More like the iPhone 7 or 7s. They might have an ex-Nokia camera guy onboard, but they won't be using the tech he developed while at Nokia. They'll be developing their own stuff for the iPhone, and that'll probably take a bit.
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Fair enough.

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jayrammac said:
This is good news for Apple. Nokia Lumia's are fantastic phones and the camera's are simply stunning.

Would not surprise me to see Apple also take some design queue's from Lumia's. Ever since the iPhone 4 I think iphones have been ugly and somewhat cheap feeling. The iPhone 4 remains my favourite ever phone, but it is closely followed by the Lumia range from the 920 upwards.
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The problem with Lumia's is Windows . . . Now a Lumia 9xx running Android that would be a Nokia I would buy.
 
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