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His hiring comes a little too late for iPhone 6.

Maybe we will see some progress with the iPhone 6s in late 2015?

One can always hope. However, don't expect miracles - we're speaking of Apple and their obsession with producing as thin phones as possible, ruling entirely out large sensors and probably even OIS. Not even they can beat the laws of physics.
 
No one needs 41MP in a phone. Will avoid it if Apple put one in an iPhone.

And you speak for...?

I *do* need as good a camera as possible in my phone. This is why I also keep my 808 with me all the time, which, in addition to being a great camera (in many regards, much-much better than any iPhone), is an excellent, high-quality, stereo audio recorder and offline mapping machine.

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the 41MP camera brings something else that's really good and not really known to everyone else: Image supersampling. A supersampled 5MP image allows for lossless zoom.

And, in addition to zooming, it also has something that non-oversampled images will never have: excellent pixel-level detail and low noise even w/o utilizing the zoom.
 
And you speak for...?

I *do* need as good a camera as possible in my phone. This is why I also keep my 808 with me all the time, which, in addition to being a great camera (in many regards, much-much better than any iPhone), is an excellent, high-quality, stereo audio recorder and offline mapping machine.

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And, in addition to zooming, it also has something that non-oversampled images will never have: excellent pixel-level detail even w/o utilizing the zoom.

That's also the primary reason I keep my 1020 with me along with my iPhone 5s: Camera and offline navigation. Nokia's Here Maps is one of the best in the world, if not the best.
 
No one needs 41MP in a phone. Will avoid it if Apple put one in an iPhone.

I used to agree, but at this point people are using their phones for cameras and not buying digital cameras. I think with higher spec'd cameras in phones will continue and there is a market for it.

Clearly Apple saw that they needed more help with their cameras and given the awesomeness of Nokia's cameras they scored a coup by nabbing this guy
 
and thank god for that! so bulky ... if i want to take awesome vacation pics etc i take my real camera. the phone camera is good enough for random instagram snaps

No one forces you to purchase "thick" phones. Fortunately, Nokia did cater for us camera freak folks by releasing the Nokia 808, while having several other non-cameraphone models on the market for the general public.

I hope Samsung also comes out with a large-sensor WA prime-based cameraphone - something like the 808. Their zooms deliver very good image quality but, as they're all zooms, can't have a large sensor. This is why I hope they also release a large-sensor prime too.
 
I used to agree, but at this point people are using their phones for cameras and not buying digital cameras. I think with higher spec'd cameras in phones will continue and there is a market for it.

Clearly Apple saw that they needed more help with their cameras and given the awesomeness of Nokia's cameras they scored a coup by nabbing this guy

Apple would also do well by striking a deal with Carl Zeiss to produce the optics for the iPhone camera.
 
the phone camera is good enough for random instagram snaps

Yes, it's sufficient for that. Nevertheless, the 808 (and, to a lesser degree, the 1020) are capable of much higher-quality images, even evident in simple instagram shots.
 
It's amazing the fabulous talent Apple is assembling to work on future projects in so many areas; health monitoring, camera, etc.

It bodes very well for some great stuff in a few years' time. It will be fun to watch where all this is heading!
 
I have a Lumia 1020, but I would love to have some of the Lumia's camera technology come to the iPhone. The iPhone would be much faster to take photos (Lumia takes around 1-2 seconds to process each 38 MP photo), iOS has an insane amount of fantastic photo editors that the Windows Store will never match, and the iPhone screen will have more accurate colors than the 1020's AMOLED screen.

But overall, I'm very happy with the 1020. Camera is unbeatable by any smartphone with full manual controls that no other phone camera has, and WindowsPhone 8.1 is just the ultimate expression of smoothness, which is one of the main reasons that I switched to WindowsPhone. I send the 5MP images to my iPad to edit them, so I got that covered.

Hopefully the iPhone 6 will be amazing. ;)
 
The iPhone would be much faster to take photos (Lumia takes around 1-2 seconds to process each 38 MP photo),

I don't think we won't see a speed hit if the iPhone gets a much larger-Megapixel sensor. The more pixels, the more time it takes to process / save their input.
 
Apple would also do well by striking a deal with Carl Zeiss to produce the optics for the iPhone camera.

No question Zeiss has a great reputation and history, so if they had (or have) the ability to use it, then by all means.
 
Wow great news. But I doubt any of his work would come to fruition until the next iphone comes.
 
Wow, big win for Apple and big loss for MS. Nokia's phones are noted for their great cameras. While the iPhone camera is good, I think its competitors have eclipsed them

What you think doesn't really matter. It all comes down to what the majority of consumers think when they see the photo results. The average consumer isn't a pundit or a pro photographer and most will settle for far less quality than you can imagine. Approximately 2% of all consumers in the world desire having a 41 megapixel camera in a smartphone. Nokia needs to get out of the smartphone business and start building cameras.
 
No one needs 41MP in a phone. Will avoid it if Apple put one in an iPhone.

So you think just because Nokia built an 41 Megapixel camera, Nokia camera engineers are completely incapable of building anything else? :confused:
 
Please do your homework before posting clueless comments like that... start with checking out some 808 or 1020 shots...

I don't think he means that they aren't great cameras but simply that the number of megapixels a camera has does not represent its picture quality.

Regular digital camera makers fought this war until both Canon and Nikon had to educate their customers that there is a trade off between resolution and picture quality and end the MP race. Otherwise we would all have 50Mp point and shoot cameras with poor low light that could never hope to resolve 50Mp of actual resolution.

Ideally there would be standard numbers for :

SNR (signal to noise ratio)
Resolving power
Dynamic Range
Colour
 
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