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Idle Apple Car speculation

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  • looks like Magic Mouse… on wheels
  • Gorilla Glass windshield (though Apple would prefer if you didn’t know that)
  • car chassis is unibody made out of machined anodised aluminium
  • the car scratches easily, leading to a booming growth of a whole industry of third-party covers
  • available in Space Grey, Silver, Gold and Rose Gold (*actually pink)
  • uses Apple-designed CPU and motors (*built by Samsung)
  • runs carOS (iOS-derived)
  • no steering wheel or pedals, everything is controlled using Siri and touchscreen gestures (with 3D touch)
  • Taptic Engine built into the seat gently taps your butt if you doze off while driving
  • for a more traditional experience, pair your iPhone with Apple Car and tilt to steer (like in racing iOS apps)
  • just like Magic Mouse, charging port is on the bottom of the car
  • you can avoid having to lift your car manually in order to reach charging port by using Apple Jack (*optional accessory, not included)
  • uses non-removable and non-user-serviceable Li-Ion battery
  • battery that no longer holds charge can be replaced at the nearest Genius Garage (for a fee, of course)
  • charging cable uses yet another Apple proprietary connector
  • adapters for common US and EU sockets available, featuring scratch-prone white plastic handles with no grip whatsoever
  • you have to provide your Apple ID and activate the car over the internet before you can drive anywhere
  • self-driving mode only supports POIs that exist in Apple Maps
  • new iCloud app: Find My Car
  • before every OTA update you have to read through and accept 100+ page long Terms & Conditions
  • base model still comes with 16 GB storage
You could use lightening cable.
 
A neural network DOES model the basic architecture of the brain. It does not have the modularity, the same global architecture, or the same methods of potentiation, but it is similar in an important and fundamental way.

Source: I'm a PhD candidate with a degree in neuroscience from an Ivy League school.
 
Nvidia? Great; now we can expect overheating and vertical lines on the dashboard display, and Apple refusing to cover it under warranty until there's a class-action lawsuit at which time they'll grudgingly agree to fix it...then right after the warranty for that expires, it will fail again.
 
A neural network DOES model the basic architecture of the brain. It does not have the modularity, the same global architecture, or the same methods of potentiation, but it is similar in an important and fundamental way.

Source: I'm a PhD candidate with a degree in neuroscience from an Ivy League school.

In what important and fundamental way are they similar?

This is the basic architecture of a neural network: Every neuron in a layer is connected to every neuron in the previous and next layer. On the other hand, no neuron in a layer is connected to any other neuron in the same layer or any other layer (besides the previous and the next) for that matter.

That is fundamentally different from the basic architecture of the brain, wouldn't you say?
 
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If a self-driving car crashes is it the driver or the car that's to blame? This is going to be a legal minefield.

Volvo have already said they will take the blame if one of their cars is in a self-driving accident. I can see other manufacturers saying the same to keep up.
 
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The thought of Apple software in a self driving car is frightening. Apple will have to go into the insurance business too. Underwriting for this one will be interesting.

I hope this is just another silly rumor.
 
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If a self-driving car crashes is it the driver or the car that's to blame? This is going to be a legal minefield.
Once it becomes a standard feature I can see the blame will go to the person that can do manual overrides on the car = human driver.
Self driving cars in the near future will probably be activated at highways more than small roads and will have a maximum speed limit. My guess will be if you use it in non designated areas then you will be responsible. Newer roads will probably have self driving designated lanes for example.

As of today my guess is the human driver just like it is with cruise control.
 
Once it becomes a standard feature I can see the blame will go to the person that can do manual overrides on the car = human driver.
Self driving cars in the near future will probably be activated at highways more than small roads and will have a maximum speed limit. My guess will be if you use it in non designated areas then you will be responsible. Newer roads will probably have self driving designated lanes for example.

As of today my guess is the human driver just like it is with cruise control.

I would assume that a self driving car will permanently record say the last 60 seconds of all its inputs, and that would be used to determine whose fault a crash was.
 
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I like driving, but look forward to the self-driving car. Horses didn't go away because they were superseded by cars, they became something you rode for enjoyment.

It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out to be honest.

I'm actually less intrigued by the self-driving aspect of it, as there is so much innovation going on in that field that it's coming whether or not Apple come to the party.

What does intrigue me is how they're going to manage the complex supplier relationships, logistics and building of infrastructure. So much of a vehicle is engineered by third parties (Which Apple is very comfortable with), but in the motor industry you can't shift the blame, or ignore the consequences in the same way as you can with a phone that costs a couple hundred bucks to manufacture and a huge profit margin.

I'll be very interested to see where they decide to build any plant, or if they go down the route of a contract manufacturer for assembly. And for all the hype of the self-driving car, Apple have to design and build a car first and foremost. It's a very tight regulatory environment, despite what the news outlets would have you believe from the VW saga), with significant amounts of market localization, and in some of those markets the margins are already very tight, with many making a loss on most segments of vehicle.

So the question will be: If mainstream manufacturers get to the self-driving market before Apple do, with a solution that works, at a reasonable cost, would you buy an version 1 Apple Car with a premium price tag?
 
People who say that neural networks model the human brain have never studied the human brain.
If you really want to go down that rabbit hole, Silicon Valley and the rest of the tech industry has a long history of start-up road kill with business plans creating a machine that imitates brain patterns and human thought.

The latest one on this pyre is Numenta and before that Neuron Data. Both claimed they "modeled" human though and behavior. Both had near ridiculous claims with an AI takeover "just a few years away." I have been hearing that for a half century, while some very good code has come out of it, their blue sky vision is nada.

Look into the Modus Operandi of the AI community and you find a very fixed mindset clique of atheist / agnostic / psychiatric types that think everything is just physical and can be modeled as long as it is understood under scientific method.

Then there are some at the very top of the tech business with some very spiritual believes and practices that state thought and behavior is not a physical phenomena at all. Thus, it cannot be modeled and reproduced by just physical means. Buddhism and many charismatic traditions are full of this mindset.

Yes, at the core of the technology business, you have a religion debate. Been dealing with that my whole career.
 
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"More recently, it's hired away talent from electric motorcycle startup Mission Motors, who had to close its doors after the talent drain."

Macrumors, would you please stop propagating this nonsense? The talent left Mission because it was being run into the ground, and had no future as a viable company. It had jack-all to do with Apple.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/oped/mission-motors-apple-********-story/
 
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Once it becomes a standard feature I can see the blame will go to the person that can do manual overrides on the car = human driver..

It can never be the case, in any realistic way, to have the human be a manual override for a self driving car.
That scenario would be totally unrealistic and impractical, simply it would never work.
 
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If I was CEO of Apple, I would put a billion or two into developing the first augmented reality glasses, that are light weight, nicely designed and with a user friendly user interface.

They will make much money of these, than any car. It is very hard to scale up car production quickly.
 
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I want to see one of these self driving cars take on heavy heavy rain and snow storms. Then I'll feel just a tad bit comfortable with them on our NY roads.
 
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Apple is the only company I would trust to make a self driving car... The Samsung car would never get updates and Stagefright would be present there lol. Google would just track your every move and sell your data and serve you ads on your windshield. Google Maps isnt as good as Apple Maps anymore anyway. Not to mention Apple is the only company with the track record of being able to disrupt major industries successfully.
 
Why do all "Apple concepts" look nothing like how Apple would design a concept?

Because the people who possess sensible design skills and UI/UX usability expertise are working for Apple instead of posting here.
 
I fear that Apple are turning into Google.

What with the moonshots like Apple Watch and Apple Music, a self-driving car is yet another. I won't be surprised if they bring out Apple Glass at this rate.

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