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I have it on and it hasn't used up very much data for me. That said, they should probably have had it default to off since we all know how despicable these companies have gotten with their data caps and steep penalties. THAT said, I think the lawsuit is silly because people should take responsibility for their own settings.
 
Basically I look at this feature as automating and simplifying something that every single smartphone user of any brand has done at least once and probably 100 times. Turning off wifi when the signal sucks so that they can do what they want to do.
And it happened to me several times that I then went about my business at a location where I knew to have good WiFi and thought I was using WiFi but I wasn't because I had turned it off manually before.
 
It seems pretty crappy that neither Apple or some network providers actually let their customers know about the change. I know on my previous phone contract I was pretty close to my usage limit most months :(

At least now here in the UK my current provider (o2) sent me a text message to tell me about the feature, and how to disable it if needed - although it's now somewhat moot given the increasing prevalence of all-you-can-eat and high-usage accounts (I now have a 30Gb cap).
 
Yes, lets sue, because someone is too incompetent to use their phone properly and adjust settings.
 
I would love to have a smart-switch in iOS (like android). Every time I'm connected to a hot spot the cellular data goes off. Once I'm out of that range the cellular data goes on again. That would be nice...

It already exists, sort of ;)
You can leave your Cellular Data on and your device will prioritize Wifi over it!
 
I'm not aware of any cellular provider that does not text you when you are getting close to reaching your monthly data limit. In fact, an alert at 90% usage is quite common, and I find it very hard to believe that they did not know that they were reaching their limit. So, I'm going to have to call a bit of BS at the hands of the plaintiffs here.

An attempt at class action status here is simple greed on the part of the law firm that's filing the suit. I don't fault the plaintiffs for that. I fault the lawyers.
AT&T does not text the individual if they are on a family plan or a business plan, instead they will sometimes text the person with financial responsibility.
 
What planet do you live on? People don't read that crap. We still have people that text and drive and you expect everyone to read change notes from iOS 8 to iOS 9?

People that text and drive, and have an accident will ended up getting sued. Some have lost everything -- both monetary and family members.

And it's their own fault.

Do you really want to use that as a justification for not reading the release notes for a device that can run up data charges if you don't pay attention?
 
I really don't understand why you think a threat is your first option, for something that is a oversight at best, and unintended consequences at the worst. Do you call your lawyer if a restaurant brings your steak cooked differently than you liked?

What's the point of provoking a conflict over something that hasn't caused any real harm, and is at worst an inconvenience?
It's the existence of the potential threat that's useful.

I may not call a lawyer if a restaurant simply under-cooks my steak, but if I suffer harm from something being under-cooked and the risks not being properly disclosed, then yeah, I might.

In this case, it is something that has caused "real harm," to use your words. People went over as a result of the "feature." (My sister is one of them. She isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but that's beside the point.)

There's lots of unnecessary and silly litigation out there, but in my personal opinion, this doesn't fall into that category.
 
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My daughter has somewhat weak wifi signal in her room. Nevertheless, it works okay: you can watch videos just fine. Wi-Fi Assist, however, thought otherwise and switched to cellular when she watched Youtube videos, even though cellular was disabled for Youtube in the settings. The bottom line is that the monthly limit for cellular data (750MB) was exceeded in just two days.

Enabling Wi-Fi Assist by default was a bastard move. I'm glad to hear that Apple was hit with a lawsuit for that.
 
Good job I read this, turn that rubbish right off! I only get 1.5GB a month usage and I am not letting my phone run up my bill higher, I'm mostly in a WiFi area anyway so it's pointless being on.
I am glad someone is taking them to court, to defend Apple over this is to ignore the facts, Apple likes to enable features by default that it shouldn't, like allowing in app purchases...... Or should I say they like to enable features by default that can cost people a lot of money.
 
What planet do you live on? People don't read that crap. We still have people that text and drive and you expect everyone to read change notes from iOS 8 to iOS 9?
Maybe Apple should prevent phones from texting while in motion by default. Save a bunch of lives that way. Let's see if people are happy about that option. The lawsuit would be twice as big.

Well in my country it's illegal to text and drive, in fact it's illegal to use your phone whilst driving for anything, you can use a hands free system but if the Police think doing that is distracting you too much they can pull you over and fine you.

Seems like in your country the law hasn't caught up to the stupidity and lack of intelligence with drivers who do use their phones whilst driving?
 
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Have they ever heard of release notes? People should read those more often. They're always presented at the time of update, no excuses.
no, and i expect even less from iphone users, not everyone is technical and have the time on their hands to read the release notes, look up clickwrap agreement,

the real issue here is whether or not the end user gave conscious consent to have the feature on in the first place.
 
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I think this problem existed in the later versions of ios 8 as I had many occasions where my iPhone 6 switched from my 3-arc time capsule signal to a 2-dot 3G cell connection. This has cost me hundreds of dollars in overage costs.

Nope, iOS 9 only. This would be the exact opposite of what WiFi assist does, it switches you to cell data *if* your WiFi is weak/dropping out. It wouldn't ever switch you from a strong WiFi signal to a crappy cell signal. Also, not possible before iOS 9.
 
In this case, it is something that has caused "real harm," to use your words.

I think we have a completely different concept of "real harm". "Real harm" is serious injury or fraud.

A few extra bucks on a cell phone bill, that could have been avoided by simply paying attention, is not "real harm". If you truly believe that, you will be perpetually aggrieved for the rest of your life, and you should start getting used to it.
 
no, and i expect even less from iphone users, not everyone is technical and have the time on their hands to read the release notes, look up clickwrap agreement,

the real issue here is whether or not the end user gave conscious consent to have the feature on in the first place.
I know, people are just so busy during the day. With the ever growing number of social media services who can find time for anything anymore?
 
First, you are arbitrarily determining what constitutes a class action lawsuit based on your criteria, not reality.

Since, you have still failed to acknowledge the millions of people that upgrade their hardware or bought new hardware who didn't get those release notes you keep referencing.
So if someone goes and purchases their first iPhone ever (and does not get the release notes about some setting or feature) They can sue the company for one of those settings being set a certain way by default? Wow
I didn't say that. But nice straw man!
Straw man? Alreighty then. Anyway see YOUR post above in bold. I believe you did.
 
Straw man? Alreighty then. Anyway see YOUR post above in bold. I believe you did.
It's a straw man argument because I didn't say that those people can or should sue. I pointed out that not everyone who might be faced with this issue received release notes.

Nice try though.
 
It's a straw man argument because I didn't say that those people can or should sue. I pointed out that not everyone who might be faced with this issue received release notes.

Nice try though.
I understand but everyone DOES have access to the user manual that explains the settings and what they do. If no one chooses to read it that's certainly fine and their prerogative but not the mfg fault if such choice is made. They supplied the info its up to the end user to decide if they want to use it or not. Point is there are tons of settings in iOS that cause the phone to use data. Its the end users responsibility to decide which of them they want to allow or not, this is no different. And the idea that "we didn't know" doesn't hold up. As they say RTFM.

Now IF the feature does not work as stated then its a different story. If it randomly switches to cellular because of a flaw then yeah definitely Apples fault and they should be held accountable.
 
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