5GB of storage in 2025 is just as useless as using a floppy disk in 2025. It's so useless it may as well just be scrapped if they refuse to increase it.
Apple's legal team is paid very well to defend them. They don't need free legal help and public relations from customers.> alleges that Apple effectively forces consumers to use iCloud for backing up iPhone data [...] with wired backups being the only other option.
Soooo… there are other options
The complaint is that the phone is basically non-functioning out of the box on the free tier
The average iPhone user has no idea
I have relatives who are bombarded with iPhone popups about storage, unable to backup, out of room.
The 5GB fills up quickly under default settings, and by the time I show up to try and fix it,
you can backup to your Mac locally.Apple needs a "local only" master setting, essentials only in the cloud, or whatever. Turn on the iPhone for the first time and you are prompted with that option.
Nope.5GB of storage in 2025 is just as useless as using a floppy disk in 2025. It's so useless it may as well just be scrapped if they refuse to increase it.
So the data that actually uses the most storage -- photos, videos, and documents -- is fully accessible by third-party apps.While Apple permits third-party services to back up user data such as photos, videos, and documents, the company does not allow them to access certain system-level items, including device settings, app configurations, and encrypted keychains. The plaintiffs seek to certify a nationwide class of potentially tens of millions of iCloud subscribers, arguing that Apple's system effectively coerces users into subscribing to its paid storage tiers.
What??? 4x? Where is that information from?Apple's prices for storage are exorbitant. They are charging 4x what other companies (like Dropbox) charge.
I would like to decide by myself whom I trust. And yes, I trust a company like Proton (or my locally hosted Backup NAS) more than Apple.
"basically non-functioning" doing some heavy lifting
iPhone can function with zero iCloud backups. It's especially true when apps use the 5GB tier to store data so that when the user buys a new phone and download the app again, the settings are restored.
iPhone users suing Apple for lack of research into a product they want to buy?
Anecdotal + lack of research by your relatives suggest it doesn't really help the argument.
If I bought a car and I realize my bike doesn't fit in the trunk, that's not the car manufacturer's fault. That's my fault.
5GB isn't designed to hold your entire photo library. This was one of the reasons why Apple built photostream initially to launch alongside iCloud that doesn't count against the 5GB.
you can backup to your Mac locally.
I'd like to have my iPhone backup to my NAS, similarly to how my mac does. Can you show me how to do this?so...not really monopolizing anything. you're just too whiney. plus you can do this over wifi.
dropbox 2tb plan is the same amount as apple'sApple's prices for storage are exorbitant. They are charging 4x what other companies (like Dropbox) charge.
Storage is storage. It's just data centres. It's not special super-duper Apple storage.
That's why this matters.
You can backup to your windows locally.I don't know anyone who owns a Mac.
I use iMazing to back up my iPhones> alleges that Apple effectively forces consumers to use iCloud for backing up iPhone data [...] with wired backups being the only other option.
Soooo… there are other options
I'd like to have my iPhone backup to my NAS, similarly to how my mac does. Can you show me how to do this?
I'm subscribed to iCloud, because I can't figure out how to.
Some people don't get it.And that is the point of the class action lawsuit. She can only pay Apple for complete cloud storage backups.
And then wait when the other backup companies get hacked and can access your phone. also makes it a lot easier for Gov agencies to force them to give up your private data. I think apple has been the only company to push back when agencies ask to access your data. Go buy and android if you don't like how apple does it. Back up settings and personal info to iCloud and then use another device like a NAS to backup photo's.> alleges that Apple effectively forces consumers to use iCloud for backing up iPhone data [...] with wired backups being the only other option.
Soooo… there are other options
That’s a fair complaint, but that’s not what I see most often.The complaint is that the phone is basically non-functioning out of the box on the free tier, by design, as a way to frustrate people into buying a paid tier. The average iPhone user has no idea, and the iPhone isn't going to suggest the most cost effective alternative(s) to dealing with this.
I have relatives who are bombarded with iPhone popups about storage, unable to backup, out of room. The 5GB fills up quickly under default settings, and by the time I show up to try and fix it, we have to delete lots stuff and adjust settings to try and stop it from filling again, but it's nearly impossible to stay on top of.
Apple needs a "local only" master setting, essentials only in the cloud, or whatever. Turn on the iPhone for the first time and you are prompted with that option.
I use iMazing to back up to local NAS and/or local USB/TB drivesIt would be nice to have a feature where you can back up to your own personal cloud like a NAS server.
Also keep in mind besides having a wired back up option, technically you can do wireless if you have a dedicated computer that’s on all the time, I guess a good way to repurpose an old Intel Mac. I’ve never had a lot of success with that, it’s not as automated as it should be.![]()
Encrypt the backup before it leaves the device, simple.
No, then I need a mac involved.Sure.
Install resilio sync on your NAS and your Mac. Drag your mobilesync folder (where your backups go) to the sync app and it'll auto sync your backups to NAS.
That would not affect the suit, even if it were FREE for 200TB!The current iCloud plans have not been updated for a decade (with the exception of adding higher plans for more $$$)
At least the free 5GB plan could be updated to 10GB/15GB/20GB and the other plans be updated to match iPhone storage eg 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, 1TB rather than just 50GB, 200GB, 2TB.
So many people are paying for 2TB plans because they have 210GB of iCloud storage!