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Fair enough.

Although, you said you didn't play games - I'm sure exclusive titles only apply to that industry regarding computer software. I can't think of any serious or non gaming software that is exclusive to a platform due to some sort of legal clause. Can you?

Neither can I, though I have a weird feeling that’s some oracle rubbish out there (could be Sun stuff).
 
I don’t think you understand Economics.


If your daughter is gonna die and the only cure is 2 million dollars a week, would you go in debt to save her?

Are you happy with the price?
You really don’t understand economics and related anti trust law. The irony is literally dripping off you comment.
 
No you can get equivalent apps. Like you can’t buy a new Honda in a Toyota dealership, yet both products perform an equivalent function. But I didn't have to explain that, as it’s all part of verbal sparring.
So what OP said is correct then.

The point is, with iOS apps on iOS devices, there are no alternative distribution channels, thus Apple can charge whatever they want because there is no competition in that specific market segment.
 
Utilities are localized monopolies. Apple is not a utility. You have other options. Use them if you don’t want to use apple products.
My wording was inaccurate, I actually meant ISP. But I am no longer sure it’s a utility where I live either, though there is competition.

I should have added that it was t in any way related to the topic, directly,
 
I wonder how many economic geniuses realize that retail clothing stores sell products at 5 times or more the average cost of production and 8 times the marginal cost of production? I wonder how many even know the difference between marginal and average cost?
 
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Something can be true and yet not relevant. It’s true the iOS App Store is the only place to get an iOS app. It’s also true that a Honda dealership is the only place to purchase a new Honda. Apple has a legal monopoly on the distribution of iOS apps.
A Honda dealership is not the only place to get a new Honda? Or at least not in Europe…

Either way, what we wrote is true, regardless of whether it was relevant or not.
 
I wonder how many economic geniuses realize that retail clothing stores sell products at 5 times or more the average cost of production and 8 times the marginal cost of production? I wonder how many even know the difference between marginal and average cost?
I wonder how many economic geniuses realize how many places there are to buy retail clothing versus smartphone software.
 
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Since we are discussing this instance of being forced to pay so called higher prices using the Apple Store for iOS/iPadOS apps why even use them in the first place compared to just using them on a MBA or another Mac that you can take mobile. This whole discussion centers around the convenience of have similar functionality on a locked ecosystem, but seriously no one hoards lots of apps on a phone without alternatives and that just isn’t saying you use android only. Just seems all of this can easily be avoided if you look at all solutions instead of fixated on using a iPhone or a iPad to do your work.
 
Most of the phone apps I use are free. The ones that cost something are really cheap... a few dollars. What a fuss over nothing it seems
 
I remember paying $1500 to join the developer program and another $1500 to buy the compiler (MPW Pascal) with documentation in a 3-ring binder. I agree that the people calling for this have not thought it through.
Well $3,000 in 1980 is about $10,000 today using an inflation calculator. If the commission you had to pay to sell each copy of your app reduced from 30% to 10% you would recover your investment cost (ignoring interest) after $50,000 in sales. So if you make exactly $50,000 in sales the first year then after the 30% cut you make $35,000 or about the same as an hourly worker who makes $16.82 an hour. Let’s say you have to pay the same $1,500 for a second year of the developer program but the compiler software only has to be upgraded every two years. So now your upfront expenses (again ignoring current interest rates) is $15,000. You would have to make $75,000 every two years to recover your investment costs or $37,500 per year. So if you are currently making $37,500 in total sales then after the 30% cut you are making $26,250 per year or about the same as an hourly worker working at a rate of $12.62 per hour. So for any real business, even a one person shop, you are better paying full price up front for your developer tools and paying a lower commission on your total sales revenue.
 
I don’t think you understand Economics.


If your daughter is gonna die and the only cure is 2 million dollars a week, would you go in debt to save her?

Are you happy with the price?
No one is gong to die because they didn't buy an App or IAP
 
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Simple solution - Allow side loading and different app stores, BUT have a switch in settings that allows only downloads from the Apple App Store. Make that the default setting. When the user decides to side load an app and turns this off, they get a warning telling them that that are about to lose their warrantee, AppleCare if they have it, and all service options for their phone by doing this. They take full responsibility for any cost viruses will add to their system.
 
Simple solution - Allow side loading and different app stores, BUT have a switch in settings that allows only downloads from the Apple App Store. Make that the default setting. When the user decides to side load an app and turns this off, they get a warning telling them that that are about to lose their warrantee, AppleCare if they have it, and all service options for their phone by doing this. They take full responsibility for any cost viruses will add to their system.
I think that’s all the majority who want the ability are asking for.
 
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It's quite hilarious that these idiots that want to sideload won't just switch to Android because of some issue or another with it but by demanding Apple open up sideloading they will probably cause cause the same issues on iOS to occur if successful.

If Apple is forced to enable side loading it truly does eliminate true consumer choice. I'm a consumer and I want a completely closed OS like iOS for my phone which is why I buy iPhones exclusively. If I want to sideload I have the option to also buy an Android like the free market and God intended.
 
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It's quite hilarious that these idiots that want to sideload won't just switch to Android because of some issue or another with it but by demanding Apple open up sideloading they will probably cause cause the same issues on iOS to occur if successful.

If Apple is forced to enable side loading it truly does eliminate true consumer choice. I'm a consumer and I want a completely closed OS like iOS for my phone which is why I buy iPhones exclusively. If I want to sideload I have the option to also buy an Android like the free market and God intended.
Uncalled for to call people idiots.

But if that is how you speak, then I guess there’s no point in discussing anything with you.

I am failing to see how adding a toggle is reducing choice.
 
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Uncalled for to call people idiots.

But if that is how you speak, then I guess there’s no point in discussing anything with you.
Nah, idiots is appropriate. If they can't see what will happen if iOS is opened up then I can't help their stupidity.
 
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