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Apple Holding iPhone 4 Press Conference on Friday

WickedRabbit said:
While this is a big stupid design error (and one that they obviously knew existed before it came out), the fact remains that the average iPhone user doesn't use their phone for anything so probably doesn't even recognize the issue. And by average I don't consider anyone here average. AT&T said that 94% of iPhone users on their network are less than 200MB a month. If you can stay under 200MB it means you don't do a damn thing on your phone. Wi-Fi is not yet available in enough public areas to be on Wi-Fi 24/7 so if you DO find yourself on Wi-Fi that much it means you're at home or Starbucks and you're never using your phone when you're outside.
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I read an article stating that over 50% of users use MORE THAN 200 MB. The website was criticizing AT&T's new tiered limited-data plans, stating that AT&T clearly chose something so low for the $15 plan that most people would still have to pay $25. As someone mentioned, AT&T states that 98% of smartphone users use less than 2GB per month. (I think it's interesting that they said "smartphone users" and not "iPhone users"... since they've clearly stated in the past that iPhone users eat up more data than standard smartphones.)
 
timerollson said:
I'm going to be pissed if they actually do a recall and halt production. I want my ****ing iPhone already.
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Hehe. This sums it up. Some people want a recall, some want a fix, some are happy... but nobody is returning these phones and people still can't buy them.

I've been very happy with my phone so far. Reception is great too, so I won't be returning mine even if they do recall it.
 
I really don't think this was a design defect rather a MANUFACTURING defect.

1) Not all phones have the problem.
2) Newer phones do not have the problem.
3) Product was not redesigned.

If ALL original phones had the problem than it would be a design defect. What seems more likely is a manufacturing defect on an order of antennas.
 
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I've always believed that Apple discovered some antenna anomalies during testing and realized the problem after production began so they created the quick-fix, ie. "The IPhone 4 Bumper". They didn't think the problem was serious so they decided to sell the bumpers for $29, but the contingency plan was to offer the bumpers for free in a worse case scenario. It's just too obvious that Apple would design a case that only goes around the metal band (antenna) on the iPhone.
 
ptysell said:
I really don't think this was a design defect rather a MANUFACTURING defect.

1) Not all phones have the problem.
2) Newer phones do not have the problem.
3) Product was not redesigned.

If ALL original phones had the problem than it would be a design defect. What seems more likely is a manufacturing defect on an order of antennas.
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that would allow apple to save face and blame foxconn or whoever else they had making them.
 
ptysell said:
The antenna issue is clearly a manufacturing defect and not a design defect.

1) Not all iPhone 4 suffer from the antenna issue.
2) When exchanged for a different iPhone 4 the issue vanishes in many cases
3) No design changes have been made between phones that work and phones that do not work.

My guess would be that phones suffering from this issue were missing some sealant over the antenna.
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I couldn't agree more.
 
No problem!!!!

Mi iPhone 4 NO tiene ningún problema de señal ya lo tape por todos lados y no pierdo nunca la señal, entonces? que dicen a eso? Para mi que es pura mala publicidad y envidia!!!!!
 
Finally going to admit to their mistake? :confused: Recall or free bumpers? I'm going with free bumpers.
 
ziggyonice said:
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Boom.
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hahah great
 
WickedRabbit said:
While this is a big stupid design error (and one that they obviously knew existed before it came out),
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No, they did not know, they are not that stupid as to release a defective phone, all the off campus testing was done with phones in cases that disguised them, so they never realized that looking stylish had a downside...as I have always contended, every move that Steve Jobs makes is Revenue Based, they are holding this Press Conference to stop the stock price going into freefall...being David Letterman's Top Ten List last night probably woke up Apple to the fact that they have a PR disaster on their hands...handling PR has never been their strong suit...
 
klrobinson999 said:
There will be NO recall. Repeat, NO RECALL. That would cause panic among customers, both current and potential. Plus, it would be a disaster for the stock price.
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I agree and disagree. If the problem is bad enough that a recall is required, you're right... it will ding the stock initially. But if they have to do this and position it right on the PR side, in the long run Apple could show that they care about their customers and win over many anti-Apple people by being generous. In the long-term it would send the stock soaring.

Someone else I think had it right... we'll be given options from free bumpers to a phone exchange program. They won't fix them on site... to many to do that, they'll just arrange an exchange so they can fix them in China. :D

BTW... whoever posted the video about the Apple Friend Bar... that was funny! Love it!
 
Chalkperson said:
No, they did not know, they are not that stupid as to release a defective phone, all the off campus testing was done with phones in cases that disguised them, so they never realized that looking stylish had a downside...as I have always contended, every move that Steve Jobs makes is Revenue Based, they are holding this Press Conference to stop the stock price going into freefall...being David Letterman's Top Ten List last night probably woke up Apple to the fact that they have a PR disaster on their hands...handling PR has never been their strong suit...
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They knew! Wake up and smell the coffee! Why do you think they were advocating the bumpers?
 
ptysell said:
I really don't think this was a design defect rather a MANUFACTURING defect.

1) Not all phones have the problem.
2) Newer phones do not have the problem.
3) Product was not redesigned.

If ALL original phones had the problem than it would be a design defect. What seems more likely is a manufacturing defect on an order of antennas.
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There's a distinct difference between not being able to notice the problem (due to over powering reception) versus not having the problem. If you take any iPhone 4 to a fringe are where your signal strength is in the ~85-90dBm range, you will notice your signal cut off. There is enough evidence to come to that conclusion.
 
I personally have been through 3 iPhone 4s now.... all of them have the antenna issue and all of them have the proximity sensor issue. Also... the bumper cases are lame because they make it so that you can only use certain headphones and charger connectors due to the size of the holes....

LAME

Thanks,
 
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