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Then I include myself. My opinion is that “we” will be better off in January 2029 than in January 2025. This is a general statement and each of our metrics for humanity will be different. YMMV.
Were we better off in January 2021 than in January 2017? Of course not. His second term will be similarly bad.
 
Why are you reading other people's opinions on a public forum if you aren't interested in other people's opinions?

I'm sure you could find or organize a forum exclusively for Americans, and lock others out by filtering through IP address and then that way you'd only get thoughts and opinions from other Americans, and they'd only get thoughts and opinions from other Americans, and then you could insulate yourself from thoughts, opinions, etc from other people on the planet.

I bet a lot of productive stuff would happen there.
He can have his opinions all he wants to, and because, as you say, this is a public forum, I am able to reply and give comment, as is he.

As an American, the musings & opinions on what my country does from a non-citizen carry as much weight as a bucket with holes.
 
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Were we better off in January 2021 than in January 2017? Of course not. His second term will be similarly bad.
You’re gonna blame him for the pandemic now? So I’m guardedly hopeful the second term will be good for the country and that will trickle down to me.

But we can go back and forth. I understand there will be a lot of cognitive dissonance for the next four years.
 
You’re gonna blame him for the pandemic now? So I’m guardedly hopeful the second term will be good for the country and that will trickle down to me.

But we can go back and forth. I understand there will be a lot of cognitive dissonance for the next four years.
The pandemic he and his fans insisted was a hoax? Insisted that combative measures were a conspiracy, insisted that covid didn’t actually kill anyone? Yeah, I blame them for a lot.
 
You’re gonna blame him for the pandemic now? So I’m guardedly hopeful the second term will be good for the country and that will trickle down to me.

But we can go back and forth. I understand there will be a lot of cognitive dissonance for the next four years.
Depending on how they do... with Vance could be the next 12 years ( a`la Reagan-Bush 1981-93). 🤣

Tom
 
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The pandemic he and his fans insisted was a hoax? Insisted that combative measures were a conspiracy, insisted that covid didn’t actually kill anyone? Yeah, I blame them for a lot.
He’s in for four years. Criticize, ignore, bury ones’ head in the sand etc. barring some catastrophe, that’s not going to change.

Maybe in 2029 the country will again get to vote their ideal candidate into office.
 
Hypocritical of Apple. Tim Cook support and donated $1Million to the Adjudicated Rapist and Convicted Felon who constantly insults people of color.
How so? Tim Cook was close with Donald Trump in his first term and met with him more than once. Today, Tim was right up front behind the President when he was sworn in. It's not surprising that he would support Trump since the Republicans are much more friendly to the tech business sector.
 
It's not surprising that he would support Trump since the Republicans are much more friendly to the tech business sector.
I’ve never been able to understand liberals’ relationship with Apple considering Apple’s relationship with China (Wingtech) and Foxconn (Taiwanese with most factories located within mainland China). Apple is a capitalistic, NYSE listed, ”for profit” business with a seemingly very loyal, anti-capitalist customer base.

Tom
 
I’ve never been able to understand liberals’ relationship with Apple considering Apple’s relationship with China (Wingtech) and Foxconn (Taiwanese with most factories located within mainland China). Apple is a capitalistic ”for profit” business with a seemingly very loyal, anti-capitalist customer base.

Tom

Easy - liberals are not strictly anti-capitalist. "Liberal" is a political position while "Anti-capitalist" is an economic position.
 
Easy - liberals are not strictly anti-capitalist. "Liberal" is a political position while "Anti-capitalist" is an economic position.
OK then I can easily accept that Apple might be a Liberal Capitalistic company that is willing to economically support whoever is in power. So what’s the problem?

Tom
 
He can have his opinions all he wants to, and because, as you say, this is a public forum, I am able to reply and give comment, as is he.

As an American, the musings & opinions on what my country does from a non-citizen carry as much weight as a bucket with holes.

I didn't try to claim his opinion was worthless, or not interesting to me, as if I matter, I asked him why he comes to a public forum if he's going to read comments that mean nothing to him.

As a non-American, as long as you guys like to refer to yourself as "the leader of the free world" (and what a joke that is), or you throw around casually that you intend to invade other sovereign nations, you get my opinion whether you like it or not. I couldn't possibly care less what it means to you. But you're going to get it.
 
He can have his opinions all he wants to, and because, as you say, this is a public forum, I am able to reply and give comment, as is he.

As an American, the musings & opinions on what my country does from a non-citizen carry as much weight as a bucket with holes.
Here you go:
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As a non-American, as long as you guys like to refer to yourself as "the leader of the free world" (and what a joke that is)....
I'm sorry, but when there's a disaster somewhere in the world who's the FIRST country the world looks to for aid? When the UN/Nato etc need to send "peacekeepers" in to restore order/safety which country is the one the world looks to FIRST to put its soldiers on the line?

Like it or not the United States of America IS the leader of the free world. Deal with it.
 
As a non-American, as long as you guys like to refer to yourself as "the leader of the free world" (and what a joke that is), or you throw around casually that you intend to invade other sovereign nations, you get my opinion whether you like it or not. I couldn't possibly care less what it means to you. But you're going to get it.
Even a non-American, if paying any attention at all, has to admit the American leader for the last 4 years has been an empty suit. On the world stage he was barely capable of reading a one word (Don't) note card and incapable of staying awake during meetings with other world leaders.

The change of the American leader may or may not improve the world's opinions, but non-Americns probably recognize that a rather dramatic change in American leadership has occurred. ;)

Tom
 
Apple has updated the home page of its website to honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. today.
So Tim Cook honors MLK on the very same day that he attended Trump's innaguration, which he also donated $1 million to. Either Cook is too clueless to be aware of the hypocrisy in those actions, or he is aware of them but just doesn't care.

MLK stood for peace and justice. Trump stands for warmongering and injustice. The fact that Cook helped Trump means Cook is on the side of warmongering and injustice.

I hope history does not forget that Cook has participated in such evil actions. I hope history looks back at Cook as a morally bankrupt scumbag.
 
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So Tim Cook honors MLK on the very same day that he attended Trump's innaguration, which he also donated $1 million to. Either Cook is too clueless to the hypocrisy in those actions, or he is aware of them but just doesn't care...Trump stands for warmongering and injustice.
Been discussed and agreement reached: seems Apple can take a Liberal political position while making Capitalistic economic decisions without being hypocritical. .Read posts #85-87. 🤣

You're concerned with Apple's relationship with Trump but not China, Foxconn, or Wingtech? Either way, are you concerned enough to not buy the product? If not that seems hypocritical or clueless to me. :rolleyes:

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Been discussed and agreement reached: seems Apple can take a Liberal political position while making Capitalistic economic decisions without being hypocritical. .Read posts #85-87. 🤣

You're concerned with Apple's relationship with Trump but not China, Foxconn, or Wingtech? Either way, are you concerned enough to not buy the product? If not that seems hypocritical or clueless to me. :rolleyes:

Tom
Very sad to say that, having been an Apple user for well over 20 years and at a point in my life where the realisation and recognition of my own contributions to the world have been irrelevant and whatever name you call me, whatever computer I (as an irrelevant individual) purchase are all irrelevant, meaningless and without consequence to anyone but me; so are yours.
I like the idea of our opinions being of import and the idea of constructive, productive argument; but these things do not exist in our (no ownership implied) world.
 
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Honouring MLK Jr whist Tim Cook is bending the knee to the orange felon alongside the other billionaires of America. Slightly incongruous (not to say sickening) images there.
 
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I'm sorry, but when there's a disaster somewhere in the world who's the FIRST country the world looks to for aid? When the UN/Nato etc need to send "peacekeepers" in to restore order/safety which country is the one the world looks to FIRST to put its soldiers on the line?

Like it or not the United States of America IS the leader of the free world. Deal with it.

And like it or not, the rest of the world has opinions about you. Deal with it.

Buuuuuuuuut, why don't we dive into your claims for fun.

"When there's a disaster somewhere in the world, who's the FIRST country the world looks to for aid?"

I'm not sure you can quantify that anyone looks to the US FIRST for money, but I'll give that the US gives more than any other nation. But if you look at the details, and in comparison to other countries, as far as national income is concerned, the US gives less than other nations. Canada, the sovereign nation you're currently talking about invading – where I'm from, where we have no intention of joining you – gives much more of what it has than you do. So sure, you get a pat on the back for giving the most, but you could be doing more, as others have demonstrated. Plus, we've seen in the past, especially under this "leadership" what happens to aid that's already been promised to others, and approved by congress. So, US aid can't really be counted on anymore.

"When the UN/Nato etc need to send "peacekeepers" in to restore order/safety which country is the one the world looks to FIRST to put its soldiers on the line?"

I couldn't tell you the specific country, but I can tell you Africa and Asia. That's where the vast majority of UN peacekeepers come from.

Like it or not, America is certainly something, but believe me when I tell you that outside of your bubble that's carefully curated for you by billionaires, the rest of us are laughing. We don't see you as leaders. We see you as toddlers that would purposefully eat crap just to make the rest of us smell your breath. That's who you are to us now.
 
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Even a non-American, if paying any attention at all, has to admit the American leader for the last 4 years has been an empty suit. On the world stage he was barely capable of reading a one word (Don't) note card and incapable of staying awake during meetings with other world leaders.

The change of the American leader may or may not improve the world's opinions, but non-Americns probably recognize that a rather dramatic change in American leadership has occurred. ;)

Tom

I live in the United States. The previous president, while old, was fine, and far more respected globally than the dramatic change in American "leadership," that's just occurred ;)

Some of us are going to enjoy watching the leopards feast.
 
I like the idea of our opinions being of import and the idea of constructive, productive argument; but these things do not exist in our (no ownership implied) world.

Arrogance/Ignorance/Stupidity and of course violence - yes the Asylum leads the world.
But as previously written no one cares.

Hypocrisy is acceptable depending on the level of impact... I guess I can accept that no one really cares. ;)

Tom.
 
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