A dedicated section, but no discounts. Looks like Apple is just trying to cash in on this marketing "opportunity". Makes me feel kind of off about it...
I agree, they should have at least donated the profits to a depression charity.
A dedicated section, but no discounts. Looks like Apple is just trying to cash in on this marketing "opportunity". Makes me feel kind of off about it...
Isn't the price set by the studios anyway?
I'm just wondering: Imagine the following scenarios:So basically you're saying you don't have any clue what you're talking about, but you want to believe your friend's death had some purpose so you can feel better about it. You have my sympathies for the pain they caused you, but I will never feel ashamed of valuing human life or trying to help others going through something similar to what I went through several times.
And no, I don't equate depression with a bad day at work, I equate it with the repeated depressive episodes I've experienced over the last twenty plus years, lasting anywhere from several weeks long to many months, and the three times I made very detailed and specific plans to end my life during the darkest points in three of those episodes, and the one time when I did actually self-harm in another one of those episodes.
I understand that during those periods a person is not thinking rationally, but if anything I've said in this topic is remembered by anyone at some point in their lives and they decide to live as a result, I don't really care what you think about me or my experiences. On the other hand I find your position on suicide morally reprehensible and incredibly dangerous. Please keep your pro-suicide views away from anyone who might be vulnerable.
Fixed that for you. This conversation is over. You are disgusting, have twisted what I've said to fit your agenda and don't know what you're talking about.
I'm just wondering: Imagine the following scenarios:
Are all those people stupid and people mourning for them wrong?
- Someone dies from a heart attack because of obesity
- Someone dies from lung cancer because he smoked his whole life
- Someone dies in a biking accident
- Someone dies in a car accident because he missed a car right behind him
- Someone breaks his neck because he slipped over a wet floor
You can't assume that you know what was going on in Robin Williams head, just because you claim to have experience something similar. It's extremely arrogant to do so. I had a short but heavy episode of depressions as well and reading your egomaniacal stories I have the feeling, that you haven't been through the same. So it feels very offending that you are implying that you know how I felt. You don't. You don't know any of this.
You didn't read the letter. You have no concept of what ending a life is for someone with severe depression. Buzz off troll. I'm signing off. I can't deal with your bullcrap anymore. Let me know if you ever develop a conscience.Your statement was ambiguous as to the actual nature of the relationship, sorry I guessed wrong. Regardless, I find it ridiculous that you, who has apparently not been suicidal yourself, claim that I'm the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, when I'm the one who has been suicidal several times. I recognize that those who have been hurt by suicides want to find some meaning in it, some excuse to deal with the pain they're left with. The mind has a variety of defensive mechanisms to deal with trauma. I don't mean to rip away your way of dealing with your sister's suicide, and if you prefer to just ignore what I'm saying, that's fine, but don't attack me for speaking out against suicide.
You call me disgusting for valuing human life. I really am not sure how to react to that.
Seriously? If they did discount his stuff, then Apple would be having a "Robin Williams death sale". It's all a matter of perspective. You have a negative perspective.
I'm just wondering: Imagine the following scenarios:
Are all those people stupid and people mourning for them wrong?
- Someone dies from a heart attack because of obesity
- Someone dies from lung cancer because he smoked his whole life
- Someone dies in a biking accident
- Someone dies in a car accident because he missed a car right behind him
- Someone breaks his neck because he slipped over a wet floor
You can't assume that you know what was going on in Robin Williams head, just because you claim to have experience something similar. It's extremely arrogant to do so. I had a short but heavy episode of depressions as well and reading your egomaniacal stories I have the feeling, that you haven't been through the same. So it feels very offending that you are implying that you know how I felt. You don't. You don't know any of this.
Funny, I'd consider a "sale" to be more distasteful.
THAT sounds like cashing in...trying to spur sales, as it were.
Simply making a list seems more respectful to me.
Isn't the price set by the studios anyway?
It's cashing in anyway you look at it. iTunes has a search bar and typing in "Robin Williams" will get one the same results if they are interested in his work. The least Apple could have done -- if it was sincere -- would have been to pledge a certain portion of profits to either a cause Williams worked for or to a suicide prevention organization.
Buzz off troll.
You don't make quite sense to me. I don't see the difference between someone who dies because he chose to hang himself (even though you can hardly call it a choice, but you wouldn't understand) and someone who dies in consequence of repeated wrong choices during his life. It's the same thing to me.I don't blame people for an addiction or accident. I also don't suggest that somebody who kills himself should not be mourned. I definitely can blame somebody who chooses to take a rope and hang himself, and if they do my sympathies are entirely with the people whose lives were destroyed as a result. I view them as victims of a murderer.
Calling me egomaniacal, I don't understand. Are you sure you're using the right word? I don't want to assume English is your first language.
Oh, thank god, looks like I used the right word.Egomania: Obsessive egotism or self-centredness.
Oh, thank god, looks like I used the right word.
Tasteless and tacky.
No it's you who made it personal by claiming his sister (and my grandfather just in case you're interested) died because of mere stupidity. That is very offending and disrespectful (it's obvious to me, but I have the feeling it's not to you). And, yes, thinking that your personal experiences allows you to judge other people's experiences is egomaniacal. You can think about this in two ways:I was not the one trying to make this about me. It's the likes of people like Pitmaster and you who made it personal and claimed I had no personal experience with the subject matter. Me rebutting this with personal anecdotes doesn't make me an egomaniac.
classy of apple to exploit a celebrities death
Sure, let's celebrate suicide with a big sale, and turn him into some kind of role model by spending weeks talking about how great he was.
Anyway, I hated Robin Williams, and thought basically all of his movies were terrible. Dead Poets Society was really the only one that's okay. That said, the man was obviously some kind of crazy genius, and even the most vehement anti-fan can admit that he was operating on a different level from most people on this planet. There was clearly something going on inside his brain that was not normal, like Beethoven or Picasso. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a very high IQ. But genius usually comes with some kind of a cost. For him it was depression and self-medication. I pitied the guy, even though I never liked him or his work.
Suicide, however, is the absolutely stupidest, most cowardly, and selfish thing a person can do. It fits every definition of evil I can think of. He should be vilified, instead of celebrated. As somebody who has suffered through repeated bouts of depression myself, I have empathy with his considering it, but no empathy for his choice to actually do it. My thoughts are with his family and the other people he utterly destroyed with his action. I can only imagine what horror they are going through now in his wake. He didn't merely take the easy way out, he strapped dynamite to his chest and blew himself up taking everyone else out around him.
I certainly hope if anyone here is considering suicide, they have the brains to realize just how ****ed up a thing it is to do their their families and friends. It doesn't matter how much you're hurting, suicide does nothing but prevent you from ever feeling better, and it will end a lot more than just your own life, it'll essentially end the lives of everyone who cared about you, and cause trauma to the first responders who have to come clean up after your mess. Call a hotline, talk to somebody, and get yourself some help. There is always hope, and it will get better. Even the worst people can be redeemed, even the most worthless of people are still worth something to somebody. Don't be stupid like Robin Williams.
I would go one further and ask Apple to donate a considerable amount to Comic Relief or some other charity that Robin Williams was associated to. The profits from Robin Williams' movie sales from iTunes, I am afraid, would be a tiny amount compared to what Apple could easily afford.
What percentage of these iTunes store sales are going to Comic Relief?
Capitalism is alive and well at Apple.![]()
I'm just wondering: Imagine the following scenarios:
Are all those people stupid and people mourning for them wrong?
- Someone dies from a heart attack because of obesity
- Someone dies from lung cancer because he smoked his whole life
- Someone dies in a biking accident
- Someone dies in a car accident because he missed a car right behind him
- Someone breaks his neck because he slipped over a wet floor
You can't assume that you know what was going on in Robin Williams head, just because you claim to have experience something similar. It's extremely arrogant to do so. I had a short but heavy episode of depressions as well and reading your egomaniacal stories I have the feeling, that you haven't been through the same. So it feels very offending that you are implying that you know how I felt. You don't. You don't know any of this.
Sure, let's celebrate suicide with a big sale, and turn him into some kind of role model by spending weeks talking about how great he was.
Anyway, I hated Robin Williams, and thought basically all of his movies were terrible. Dead Poets Society was really the only one that's okay. That said, the man was obviously some kind of crazy genius, and even the most vehement anti-fan can admit that he was operating on a different level from most people on this planet. There was clearly something going on inside his brain that was not normal, like Beethoven or Picasso. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a very high IQ. But genius usually comes with some kind of a cost. For him it was depression and self-medication. I pitied the guy, even though I never liked him or his work.
Suicide, however, is the absolutely stupidest, most cowardly, and selfish thing a person can do. It fits every definition of evil I can think of. He should be vilified, instead of celebrated. As somebody who has suffered through repeated bouts of depression myself, I have empathy with his considering it, but no empathy for his choice to actually do it. My thoughts are with his family and the other people he utterly destroyed with his action. I can only imagine what horror they are going through now in his wake. He didn't merely take the easy way out, he strapped dynamite to his chest and blew himself up taking everyone else out around him.
I certainly hope if anyone here is considering suicide, they have the brains to realize just how ****ed up a thing it is to do their their families and friends. It doesn't matter how much you're hurting, suicide does nothing but prevent you from ever feeling better, and it will end a lot more than just your own life, it'll essentially end the lives of everyone who cared about you, and cause trauma to the first responders who have to come clean up after your mess. Call a hotline, talk to somebody, and get yourself some help. There is always hope, and it will get better. Even the worst people can be redeemed, even the most worthless of people are still worth something to somebody. Don't be stupid like Robin Williams.