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Sure, let's celebrate suicide with a big sale, and turn him into some kind of role model by spending weeks talking about how great he was.

Anyway, I hated Robin Williams, and thought basically all of his movies were terrible. Dead Poets Society was really the only one that's okay. That said, the man was obviously some kind of crazy genius, and even the most vehement anti-fan can admit that he was operating on a different level from most people on this planet. There was clearly something going on inside his brain that was not normal, like Beethoven or Picasso. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a very high IQ. But genius usually comes with some kind of a cost. For him it was depression and self-medication. I pitied the guy, even though I never liked him or his work.

Suicide, however, is the absolutely stupidest, most cowardly, and selfish thing a person can do. It fits every definition of evil I can think of. He should be vilified, instead of celebrated. As somebody who has suffered through repeated bouts of depression myself, I have empathy with his considering it, but no empathy for his choice to actually do it. My thoughts are with his family and the other people he utterly destroyed with his action. I can only imagine what horror they are going through now in his wake. He didn't merely take the easy way out, he strapped dynamite to his chest and blew himself up taking everyone else out around him.

I certainly hope if anyone here is considering suicide, they have the brains to realize just how ****ed up a thing it is to do their their families and friends. It doesn't matter how much you're hurting, suicide does nothing but prevent you from ever feeling better, and it will end a lot more than just your own life, it'll essentially end the lives of everyone who cared about you, and cause trauma to the first responders who have to come clean up after your mess. Call a hotline, talk to somebody, and get yourself some help. There is always hope, and it will get better. Even the worst people can be redeemed, even the most worthless of people are still worth something to somebody. Don't be stupid like Robin Williams.
I'm glad you figured it all out, it must be a great feeling to know that you are officially better than so many people. And while we're at doubting other people's subjective experiences: You never had anything close to depression, I can assure you.
 
Said someone who has never had a nanosecond of experience with someone dealing with depression. I'm calling BS. Well done, you've demonstrated a true form of obliviousness and naivety. Bravo.

No, he isn't saying BS. Suicide is easy for you perhaps but you essentially kill your family, how is that false?? I've considered suicide and was extremely close and my best friend was the one too stop me. He is right, it destroys everyone. Suicide should never be committed.
 
REALLY?!

You guys hating on Apple REALLY believe they control the prices 100% They can make a decision as a distrubutor but the film studios are the ones making the biggest cut.

It's good to know Apple is the MPAA and every production company.. because their NOT. The studios can decide whether or not to honor any discount etc.

Blame the movie studios. MPAA already deals with people who want movies for free. ;p

This thread thankfully has some users who have brains.

"CANT BELIEVE APPLE IS PROFITING FROM HIS DEATH! RAKING IN THE APPLE BUCKS!" <--- so so so stupid.
 
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One of the last projects he participated in was a redubbing of his Dead Poets Society speech of the Apple Your Verse commercials.
 
A dedicated section, but no discounts. Looks like Apple is just trying to cash in on this marketing "opportunity". Makes me feel kind of off about it...

It's only been a day. It would be more insensitive to get in touch with the relevant companies immediately and say "As he's passed away, we're thinking of flogging his content at 20% off on iTunes... Let's work something out between us."
 
Suicide should never be committed.
Depends on which circumstances, suicide for temporary stuff that can be fixed/helped should never be committed, but i have seen a lot of people around me loosing their battle with terminal deceases, if i get one, like late state cancer, i sure as hell would rather end my life quickly and painless instead of laying on a hospital bed for weeks in excruciating pain. (if my life with 100% accuracy could not be saved that is)
 
Said someone who has never had a nanosecond of experience with someone dealing with depression. I'm calling BS. Well done, you've demonstrated a true form of obliviousness and naivety. Bravo.

So what, you think suicide is wonderful and doesn't hurt anybody? Forgive me for actually valuing human life.

And for the record I know exactly, exactly the thoughts running through Robin William's head yesterday. Those are thoughts that need to be challenged as strongly as possible at every turn. Having had those thoughts and found my way through them, I'm not about to keep my mouth shut and condone self-murder by pretending it's in any way acceptable to follow through on them.
 
I put my work aside today and watched Good Will Hunting and Dead Poet Society in Honor of Robin Williams. What a great loss.
 
It's only been a day. It would be more insensitive to get in touch with the relevant companies immediately and say "As he's passed away, we're thinking of flogging his content at 20% off on iTunes... Let's work something out between us."

What Apple could have easily done is say that they are going to take 10% of every Sales/Rental from the RW list and donate it to Comic Relief. There's no question that his death has cause a HUGE surge in interest in RW media. To put it all in one place does nothing but simplify searching and help with sales. Is it cynical? Sure, but that's also the world we live in. "Never let a good crisis go to waste", right?

All they had to do was put a nice tribute on the front page in order to honor RW. I mean, how difficult is it to type in Robbin Williams and look through the results?
 
A dedicated section, but no discounts. Looks like Apple is just trying to cash in on this marketing "opportunity". Makes me feel kind of off about it...

I find it absolutely disgusting that all you can think about when a man took his own life is how to bash Apple. The man just died today, I think it's a bit early to discount his works.

What Apple is doing is celebrating the life and the works of Robin Williams.
 
What Apple could have easily done is say that they are going to take 10% of every Sales/Rental from the RW list and donate it to Comic Relief. There's no question that his death has cause a HUGE surge in interest in RW media. To put it all in one place does nothing but simplify searching and help with sales. Is it cynical? Sure, but that's also the world we live in. "Never let a good crisis go to waste", right?

All they had to do was put a nice tribute on the front page in order to honor RW. I mean, how difficult is it to type in Robbin Williams and look through the results?

Apple should donate their entire cut, 30%, to suicide prevention, and should plaster that page with suicide hotlines and resources to prevent any more tragedies. They should try to get the studios to do the same. Anything short of that is either a money grab, or celebration of suicide.
 
Given that Robin Williams was a big fan of Apple products, it's not surprising Apple is doing something for people to remember his amazing acting genius.

Pity Williams didn't live long enough to see Apple's new flagship store at Union Square in San Francisco--he certainly would have been there opening day.
 
So what, you think suicide is wonderful and doesn't hurt anybody? Forgive me for actually valuing human life.

And for the record I know exactly, exactly the thoughts running through Robin William's head yesterday. Those are thoughts that need to be challenged as strongly as possible at every turn. Having had those thoughts and found my way through them, I'm not about to keep my mouth shut and condone self-murder by pretending it's in any way acceptable to follow through on them.

Never said it was wonderful, but obviously you have never been or have never known anyone in that state. That is the only escape for people that deep in. Congratulate yourself all you want, but you have no understanding of what people who commit suicide are going through, and to say otherwise makes you look like a self-righteous fool.
 
No, he isn't saying BS. Suicide is easy for you perhaps but you essentially kill your family, how is that false?? I've considered suicide and was extremely close and my best friend was the one too stop me. He is right, it destroys everyone. Suicide should never be committed.

I just assume the people who are saying suicide is okay are people who have either never thought through the consequences because they've never really confronted the issue firsthand, or are currently quite unwell (and hopefully will get some help). Those of us who have come close, and either saved ourselves or were saved by others, and have recovered, deeply regret those thoughts and understand the impact it would have had on everyone around them. I don't imagine there are many people who have had loved ones kill themselves are terribly sympathetic with Robin Williams, either.
 
Suicide, however, is the absolutely stupidest, most cowardly, and selfish thing a person can do.

You should just hope that _you_ never have the bad luck of suffering from an illness called depression and to not survive it.
 
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No, he isn't saying BS. Suicide is easy for you perhaps but you essentially kill your family, how is that false?? I've considered suicide and was extremely close and my best friend was the one too stop me. He is right, it destroys everyone. Suicide should never be committed.

Anyone with actual depression to the state of suicide doesn't think like this. You might have had a bad day or just broken up with someone, but when you go through years and years of depression to a level that you actually decide to go through with it, it's the only way out for you as you see it.

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I just assume the people who are saying suicide is okay are people who have either never thought through the consequences because they've never really confronted the issue firsthand, or are currently quite unwell (and hopefully will get some help). Those of us who have come close, and either saved ourselves or were saved by others, and have recovered, deeply regret those thoughts and understand the impact it would have had on everyone around them. I don't imagine there are many people who have had loved ones kill themselves are terribly sympathetic with Robin Williams, either.

I just assume people like you are those who think depression is when you have a bad day at work or just got dumped. You have absolutely no comprehension of what depression actually is in this state and to say otherwise is thoughtless, careless and selfish. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. For the record, I have had a loved one kill themself over depresseion and I sympathize with Robin Williams immensely. Speak for yourself you selfish person. How dare you. How DARE you.
 
I don't regret surviving it. That's kind of the point.

Then your depression was different than someone who commits suicide. For you to speak as if you are the expert in the matter is shameful and disrespectful to those of us who have lost someone to depression. Shame.
 
I don't personally have a problem with the RW list going up.

However as a matter of marketing and PR, I would imagine Apple's PR people would have seen as inevitable a backlash by some percentage of people, and might have deemed it wise in the long term to pledge Apple's share of the profits to whatever charity might be deemed appropriate while the list is up.
 
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I just assume people like you are those who think depression is when you have a bad day at work or just got dumped. You have absolutely no comprehension of what depression actually is in this state and to say otherwise is thoughtless, careless and selfish. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. For the record, I have had a loved one kill themself over depresseion and I sympathize with Robin Williams immensely. Speak for yourself you selfish person. How dare you. How DARE you.

So basically you're saying you don't have any clue what you're talking about, but you want to believe your friend's death had some purpose so you can feel better about it. You have my sympathies for the pain they caused you, but I will never feel ashamed of valuing human life or trying to help others going through something similar to what I went through several times.

And no, I don't equate depression with a bad day at work, I equate it with the repeated depressive episodes I've experienced over the last twenty plus years, lasting anywhere from several weeks long to many months, and the three times I made very detailed and specific plans to end my life during the darkest points in three of those episodes, and the one time when I did actually self-harm in another one of those episodes.

I understand that during those periods a person is not thinking rationally, but if anything I've said in this topic is remembered by anyone at some point in their lives and they decide to live as a result, I don't really care what you think about me or my experiences. On the other hand I find your position on suicide morally reprehensible and incredibly dangerous. Please keep your pro-suicide views away from anyone who might be vulnerable.
 
So basically you're saying you don't have any clue what you're talking about, but you want to believe your sister's death had some purpose so you can feel better about it.

Fixed that for you. This conversation is over. You are disgusting, have twisted what I've said to fit your agenda and don't know what you're talking about.
 
Yeah, Robin Williams dying is the main news item I'm avoiding today. Still at the stage of not entirely believing it.
 
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