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Real disaster, huh? Can almost find nothing about it besides the thread here that is barely active anymore. Apple will replace devices with issues. Doesn't seem to be a big deal, otherwise it would be in the news.

If you judge a 'big deal' about whether or not it's reported by the media, then ... yikes! Sounds like a fun bubble to be in!
 
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"Thousands" huh? Is that an accurate count? BTW, they've probably sold 30M+ of them. Some have problems, they take care of it. If this were a design flaw or other major issue, you'd be hearing A LOT more about it with that kind of volume.
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Yeah, that doesn't mean it's a big problem either. 30M devices would not be able to be "swept under the rug" with a real design flaw.

You people are hilarious.
same thing could be said about the butterfly keyboards, people like you thousands of posts on a forum doesn't amount to much, and that apple has sold millions and only couple thousands on a forum complained, well look at it now, couple law suits and national headlines later, apple made gen 3 and revised their design philosophy for the macbook air, coincidence?

moral of the point, the complaint gotta start somewhere to get apple's attention to fix its flaws, when you shoot them down your not helping yourself since u too are a consumer and are effected by this directly or indirectly
 
If you can’t beat em, steal their employees! ;)

Stealing? How's that?

If Apple offers better wages/benefits, and provides opportunities that are more challenging, it's the employee's decision to make, looking out for his/her best interests.

If Qualcomm is concerned, then offer employees better work and pay.
 
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I am under the impression that this is the crux of the lawsuit... what Apple is fighting over. That current modem tech has advanced beyond Qualcomm patents, yet they demand royalties anyway. As if they own wireless tech from here to eternity.
Not really. Apple objects to what they claim is an unfair licensing structure. Current tech hasn't advanced beyond Qualcomm patents. Their portfolio of SEP and non-SEP patents cover 2, 3, 4, and now 5G patents. Outside of illegal behavior, there is no getting around Qualcomm. Apple has no problem paying licensing fees. Apple has a problem over-paying for licensing fees. Qualcomm may not own wireless tech til eternity, but for the foreseeable future, all roads lead to Qualcomm.
 
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I think everyone here is taking a too shortsighted of an approach to this. Technology advances fast. Designs and tech being used today won't be used for long. Even within Qualcomm I'm sure they have different teams working on several different generations/advancements in technology. You want experienced engineers because they understand the process, more than the current existing tech. Do we really think Apple is interested in duplicating existing modem tech? Or developing more advanced tech?

Yes... good point. But wouldn't you think these Qualcomm engineers would have been involved in that same next gen research at Qualcomm though? I'm not saying these people are worthless to Apple, because they are very likely skilled and knowledgeable, but I feel like their utility will be limited versus someone without the Qualcomm baggage. I can just imagine Qualcomm dragging these poor people into depositions endlessly.
 
This company () apparently wants it all. No third party suppliers for anything is their dream. The penultimate control freak company. What's next? Apple mines for their aluminum? Apple oil fields & refineries to create their own plastic? There's no end to this. They'll never be satisfied.

Giving birth to Apple customers?
 
Thousands of defective phones and Apple covered up the problem by removing post on there site and banning people. To this date there is still no fix for the problem. The thread may be slowing down cause most realize that Apple will not be able to fix bad hardware till next year.
It wasn’t a hardware issue. It was software. Apple fixed in iOS 12.1. I have the Max and I’ve never had any reception or WiFi issues.
 
If you judge a 'big deal' about whether or not it's reported by the media, then ... yikes! Sounds like a fun bubble to be in!
What are you facts to support it being a big deal?
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same thing could be said about the butterfly keyboards, people like you thousands of posts on a forum doesn't amount to much, and that apple has sold millions and only couple thousands on a forum complained, well look at it now, couple law suits and national headlines later, apple made gen 3 and revised their design philosophy for the macbook air, coincidence?

moral of the point, the complaint gotta start somewhere to get apple's attention to fix its flaws, when you shoot them down your not helping yourself since u too are a consumer and are effected by this directly or indirectly
No one disputed room for improvement. However, people were saying hardware issue, design flaw, etc and that’s now been debunked.
 
Thousands of defective phones and Apple covered up the problem by removing post on there site and banning people. To this date there is still no fix for the problem. The thread may be slowing down cause most realize that Apple will not be able to fix bad hardware till next year.

If it's only thousands of phones I'd consider it pretty good QA considering how many millions of phones Apple sells each year.
 
Once Apple decided to get into the wireless chip business, what has followed is no surprise. Of course they want to hire experienced wireless engineers.

Hiring away Qualcomm’s engineers has several advantages as others such as @gavroche have said. One, they need the personnel to support a new effort. Two, it makes it easier for the Apple engineering team to understand exactly what technology Qualcomm has patented without waiting on lawyers. Kind of a ‘go no-go’ test. And three, in the long term it deprives Qualcomm of talent, and if I were Apple, I’d be after the technology that Qualcomm has NOT patented (yet). Apple patent lawyers standing by.... If I were Apple I’d hire their lawyers too - if Qualcomm don’t have the best engineers and lawyers, they’re in a bad way.

But all this could be resolved of course. Throughout the Samsung legal thingy, Samsung continued to be a major component supplier to Apple (and still is of course) and they seem to be doing business together just fine. If Samsung and Apple can do business, so can Apple and Qualcomm. They just have to make a deal.
 
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Not really. Apple objects to what they claim is an unfair licensing structure. Current tech hasn't advanced beyond Qualcomm patents. Their portfolio of SEP and non-SEP patents cover 2, 3, 4, and now 5G patents. Outside of illegal behavior, there is getting around Qualcomm. Apple has no problem paying licensing fees. Apple has a problem over-paying for licensing fees. Qualcomm may not own wireless tech til eternity, but for the foreseeable future, all roads lead to Qualcomm.

It all get so confusing so fast.
Well.... the Chargers played in Qualcomm stadium... and it was crap, so now the Chargers play in Los Angeles (sort of). So Qualcomm can kiss my butt :D
 
Who is your carrier?

I'm surprised Apple hasn't done this long ago. They are hardware company, why not make as much as the hardware as possible. Have more control over your product. Must be tons of other benefits for not having to deal with outside vendors.

Supermicro :D
Still waiting to see the Apple data centers filled with Mac Minis running MacOS Server :D:D
 
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same thing could be said about the butterfly keyboards, people like you thousands of posts on a forum doesn't amount to much, and that apple has sold millions and only couple thousands on a forum complained, well look at it now, couple law suits and national headlines later, apple made gen 3 and revised their design philosophy for the macbook air, coincidence?

moral of the point, the complaint gotta start somewhere to get apple's attention to fix its flaws, when you shoot them down your not helping yourself since u too are a consumer and are effected by this directly or indirectly

My bet is that it will be like the iPhone X issues with the screen .I had problems early on and have done replacements for others for it and it took Apple until the a year after the launch to say that it had issues and of course it's a phone you can't even buy anymore. I just want my phone to work normally again I've permanently switched to the XR because no XS device given to me on any carrier in multiple different areas of the country has been trouble free and I've totally given up on their dismissal (referring to Apple, all actual employee interactions have been wonderful but they unfortunately can only do what Apple tells them to do and right now they are denying any issues).
 
Familiar story.

I stopped paying Apple for their products because they were charging unfair premiums on RAM and SSD technologies they had nothing to do with developing.
 
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Giving birth to Apple customers?
It is the next step of Jony Ive's mission to impose his personal preferences on everyone and everything.
It started with his hardware designs.
Then it creeped into software UI (excessive use of blurring effects in iOS and now MacOS).

Now Ive is spreading his personal preferences to people themselves:
Molding AirPods to fit his own ears and saying "screw everyone else".
Rendering iPhone camera photos to give people his desired appearance.
Apple Car interior will be designed around Ive's own body measurements. All seats will be permanently molded to fit Ive's own body.

Next will be Apple fertility clinics overseen by Ive himself:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/91...red-600-children-at-own-fertility-clinic.html
 
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Apple is not a ‘dirty’ company - they’re very good at capitalism and leveraging their position, just as all capitalist companies do. You may define this as dirty, but that’s a topic for a different discussion.

About those premiums for RAM and SSD - there’s another side to that too. I bought a 2017 iMac with minimum RAM, everyone said ‘oh, do this, the money you’ll save upgrading yourself!’. Not exactly. You CAN save a lot of money by buying the cheapest no-name RAM you can, but I’ve built computers and I want good RAM in my new iMac. By the time that you buy Crucial, Micron, Kingston HyperX, Corsair, etc, the difference is actually pretty small. Same for SSDs, yes you can get them dirt cheap but why settle for slower and less reliable?
 
The truth is, you have nothing to support your claim.

Apple has squashed several patent holding suppliers in their quest to achieve a larger margin share for themselves from iPhone. Imagination Technologies has apparently called off their lawsuit claiming Apple has violated their mobile GPU patents after Apple cut the PowerVR GPU out of the A11. Apple is clearly trying to get out of their modem patent responsibilities to Qualcomm using corporate espionage. This is dirty corporate maneuvering, and will make Apple harder to compete with as they continue to raise their prices.
 
In CA an employee is protected from their NDA after a year. 2 years from now Apple will have a proprietary 5G wireless modem with post AC WiFi. They still have to get patents and respect those that are not FRAND.

Intel is a workaround for Qualcomm because compliance is Intel's problem not Apple's.

Jerry
 
And the Apple ad reads: "desperately seeking antenna/modem engineers to fix the iPhone Xs and Xs Max":p
 
I believe that it is clear that Apple is not going to allow a third party supplier, either software or hardware, dictate terms to them. If you don’t believe that, go back and read Steve Job’s ‘Thoughts on Flash’ where he says as much (per software). There’s nothing wrong with this, it isn’t dirty it’s smart, especially if the third party is holding you back because of their other customers.

As far as price goes, Steve Jobs said it best at D8 in 2010 (he was talking about iPads and competing tablets. Check out 10:20 to 13:00 here:


TL;DR, paraphrasing, ‘if people like them (iPads), they’ll buy them, and if they don’t, they won’t. And it will all work itself out.’

And the 12.9” gen 3 iPad Pro 256 GB is actually CHEAPER in 2018 dollars than the same 256 GB gen 1 Pro.

If you have time to watch the video you should, especially if you weren’t ‘around’ back then - it explains a lot of things.
 
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