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Apple Incorporates HDCP (Copy Protection) in New Laptops
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It's interesting to see the reaction of people here. I guess the people that defend every single action Apple takes haven't had their coffee yet. (please take this and run with it)
The DRM-free store was not a gift; it was a must, and at a higher price. This didn't help the cause.
Let me get this straight....
In past threads leading up to the release of the new MB and MBP line, there were many people crying out for HDMI.
Folks, HDCP is a requirement (i.e. non optional) part of HDMI. For all of you who wanted HDMI and were mad about DisplayPort, guess what? Both are bad with respect to HDCP. DVI does not require HDCP (although it can use it).
Is this really a surprise to anyone? Is the lust for HiDef so great that people have forgotten that they've bought into HDCP with Blu-Ray, HDMI and DisplayPort?
In past threads leading up to the release of the new MB and MBP line, there were many people crying out for HDMI.
Folks, HDCP is a requirement (i.e. non optional) part of HDMI. For all of you who wanted HDMI and were mad about DisplayPort, guess what? Both are bad with respect to HDCP. DVI does not require HDCP (although it can use it).
Is this really a surprise to anyone? Is the lust for HiDef so great that people have forgotten that they've bought into HDCP with Blu-Ray, HDMI and DisplayPort?
Somebody Hack It!
This is the worst news in consumer rights i've heard in a long time...
I bought my DisplayPort to VGA adapter just so that i could do things like this, in my own home, but now i can't?
Somebody should hack the software and get rid of it!
It's wrong to punish their responsible consumers by limiting what they can do with the products they purchase without telling them!
I might sue them, unless they drop all movie prices by $2-3
This is the worst news in consumer rights i've heard in a long time...
I bought my DisplayPort to VGA adapter just so that i could do things like this, in my own home, but now i can't?
Somebody should hack the software and get rid of it!
It's wrong to punish their responsible consumers by limiting what they can do with the products they purchase without telling them!
I might sue them, unless they drop all movie prices by $2-3
You know, there is an interesting question here. At one point when Apple started selling DRM-free music, there was a belief (which was later disproved) that the songs were tagged to show who bought them. How would you feel about that? If they nixed the DRM but tagged the copy that you bought as yours? Then, the people who would try to distribute movies illegally could be tracked, but our ability to use our content wouldn't be impacted. Anyone have any thoughts about that?
I don't have any figures, but that's not universally true. Pirating is so much easier and more convenient than purchasing, it's often the more favorable option. To me, iTunes Plus makes pirating music pointless.
Whatever the number is of people who both can afford to pay and choose to pirate, it's hardly big enough to bring down these companies, and as near as I can tell copy protection only makes it worse. None of these copy protection measures have prevented, or, it seems, at all deterred the availability of pirated content--and if it isn't doing that, I really don't see the point. All it does is prevent people sharing with friends. I don't believe in that. On the other hand I'm not in charge of maximizing profits at a record company or film studio.
What is this fascination with maximizing profits? I would think it would be more gratifying to one's vanity to be known as a saint, rather than a billionaire.
Yes it is, because they need to be standards compliant so they can actually support DVD and Blu Ray and whatnot correctly. Yes, it's all a joke and sucks, but they NEED to do it to avoid being the only company that can't play media.
No. The AppleTV also supports HDCP and will thus not play these movies/tv shows either.
Well, if he were able to switch the 360 to component it would not be an issue as component is analog and not digital.
From what I have heard HDCP only applies to digital, not analog.
The majority of the world doesn't use itunes, just because you use doesn't mean everyone else is. Sure there's a big market of those who are willing to pay for digital downloads. But there is an even bigger market of those who don't want to pay and get it off torrent sites, limewire, and the rest of those sites.
Er yes but you can simply burn them to a CD and play them in your car - you can even rip them back into iTunes with no restrictions.
If I want to project a movie I have bought why should I not be allowed to - I believe that DRM is the biggest hurdle that is blocking the uptake of Blu-Ray disks - people want the HD but don't want the restrictions that come with it.
I have a PS3 yet have not bought a single movie on Blu-Ray - I will stick with DVD's and upscale them thanks.
To be clear then, we are only talking about the new Mac's with the mini-DVI port.
What I do wonder, how would this work with an older Apple Cinema Display. We should have people out there with that configuration.
Don't support it? don't buy it!
My own policy is not to support rubbish like this by simply not buying it when ever possible.
Any DRM is a business model that has to make profit or it fails, if you don't like it then don't buy in to it and make it profitable.
My own policy is not to support rubbish like this by simply not buying it when ever possible.
Any DRM is a business model that has to make profit or it fails, if you don't like it then don't buy in to it and make it profitable.
AppleTV, "brick" models of the Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Macbook Air 2.0 all support HDCP and thus will prevent you from watching TV Shows and Movies purchased from iTunes that have been secretly protected with HDCP (both Fairplay 2.0 and Fairplay 3.0 files and both SD and HD)
So you're left with a choice between having the highest quality connection for your games but not being able to see your movies, or downgrading the quality for everything (and buying and putting up with the hassle of a component switch, since I'd be willing to bet his are full).
I still say the studios are dumb-lucky he didn't just say 'screw it' and download his movies from then on. And that's not a way I would want to run my business, is all I'm saying. Divx plays fine from a USB stick.
This has already been done, at least according to:
Apple TV is a non-starter for me. Apple TV is not compatible with the EyeTV, so it can't play actual TV content. Apple TV doesn't have an optical drive, so it can't play DVDs. And, to top it off, Apple TV would also deny playing back of HDCP content to my projector, as it does not support an HDCP connection protocol.
As to whether or not Apple had a choice, they may not have had a choice about whether or not to implement it, not if they needed it to get BR going. But they certainly had a choice about HOW to implement it. And they could have limited the HDCP checking to BR movies...
LOL'ing @ the thought of a DRM-free world... DRM ain't dead, it's just evolved...
The digital electronics industry doesn't care... they chose HDCP, you'll like it, and you'll say thank you. End of story. And since you can't do anything about it, you'll just have to go out and buy new monitors and tvs. Just think of it as "contributing to the economy."
The digital electronics industry doesn't care... they chose HDCP, you'll like it, and you'll say thank you. End of story. And since you can't do anything about it, you'll just have to go out and buy new monitors and tvs. Just think of it as "contributing to the economy."
This bites
I am glad I did not rush out an buy one of the new laptops. This really sucks. As someone who works frequently with audio and video for a living I foresee this as being a major headache and am very disappointmented. Dropping the firewire port was bad enough especially since almost all professional audio interfaces use the firewire port - now this is a new headache to look forward too. Thanks Apple.
I am glad I did not rush out an buy one of the new laptops. This really sucks. As someone who works frequently with audio and video for a living I foresee this as being a major headache and am very disappointmented. Dropping the firewire port was bad enough especially since almost all professional audio interfaces use the firewire port - now this is a new headache to look forward too. Thanks Apple.
Bye Bye iTunes!
I am pretty upset that I spent afew hudred dollars on music from iTunes. It is such a pain in the a$s when I am buying a new computer. I have 4 macs (not counting the old iMac G4 I use only for word processing) and mistakenly started using one username when I started iTunes and now have another.
What if I decide to get a PC netbook (since apple refuses to make one)? I may do this to have a lightweight Skype device and maybe I want music on it.
I wont even consider gettign in to the iTues movie mess now. I was looking at the new mini projector coming out in December and dont want to get screwed
I am pretty upset that I spent afew hudred dollars on music from iTunes. It is such a pain in the a$s when I am buying a new computer. I have 4 macs (not counting the old iMac G4 I use only for word processing) and mistakenly started using one username when I started iTunes and now have another.
What if I decide to get a PC netbook (since apple refuses to make one)? I may do this to have a lightweight Skype device and maybe I want music on it.
I wont even consider gettign in to the iTues movie mess now. I was looking at the new mini projector coming out in December and dont want to get screwed
So all the people who have been venting about wanting to be able to play BluRay disks in their Macs are now realising that it's a double-edged sword? I love these forums.
I have no problem with this move, by the way, but won't be buying any new Apple tech until the dust settles a bit.
I have no problem with this move, by the way, but won't be buying any new Apple tech until the dust settles a bit.
The firewire port is still there for pete sake, it's just on thej "Professional" laptops. You claim to be a professional and use professional hardware, so buy the appropriate Notebook. Cripes.
I don't see why people are getting mad about this. You asked for HD video output, you got it. You all been requesting for Blu-Ray, they are taking necessary steps to make this happen. Apple is just a company who is incorporating what industry standards are. They can't leave out HDCP and expect HD video or Blu-Ray movies to run like a charm.
I don't understand why Apple Fanboys are getting all pissy about this but take a look at Dell, HP, Gateway, Toshiba, Sony and many other companies who have added HDMI or Blu-ray to their machines. They all had to put in HDCP into their product. Do you hear customers from those companies complaining about this? I have yet to hear someone complain.
We are moving fast into the digital age only because people are setting higher standards to what they want. In order to get what they want there should be some form of regulation to control anything. I don't like it as much as the next person, however. The real people you should be mad at is the all of us who asked for any of this.
just my thought on this...
I don't understand why Apple Fanboys are getting all pissy about this but take a look at Dell, HP, Gateway, Toshiba, Sony and many other companies who have added HDMI or Blu-ray to their machines. They all had to put in HDCP into their product. Do you hear customers from those companies complaining about this? I have yet to hear someone complain.
We are moving fast into the digital age only because people are setting higher standards to what they want. In order to get what they want there should be some form of regulation to control anything. I don't like it as much as the next person, however. The real people you should be mad at is the all of us who asked for any of this.
just my thought on this...
Same here. I'm happy with my current computers and don't plan on buying anything new for at least 2 years.