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Apple Introduces 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display
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$300 for a 128-256GB SSD upgrade? 
I'm ok with some premium but the most I expected was $200, which is already pricey sum to ask for a 128-256GB SSD difference.
Of course I'm waiting on Haswell anyways, the HD 4000 just doesn't have enough power, but the pricing is rather disappointing. Might just go for a Haswell Air instead next year.
I'm ok with some premium but the most I expected was $200, which is already pricey sum to ask for a 128-256GB SSD difference.
Of course I'm waiting on Haswell anyways, the HD 4000 just doesn't have enough power, but the pricing is rather disappointing. Might just go for a Haswell Air instead next year.
DOA
Mr. Kuo say: "Priced aggressively under $1,300".
Mr. Kuo was wrong about what the price is, but Mr. Kuo was spot on as to what the price should be.
Also, enjoy that 128GB Toshiba SSD with the Sandforce controller which will choke on Filevault2 like the base Air.
Mr. Kuo say: "Priced aggressively under $1,300".
Mr. Kuo was wrong about what the price is, but Mr. Kuo was spot on as to what the price should be.
Also, enjoy that 128GB Toshiba SSD with the Sandforce controller which will choke on Filevault2 like the base Air.
For those complaining about pricing and lack of optical drive, the 13" MBP (non-retina) is still available at $1499 starting and can be upgraded with non-Apple parts. Perfectly capable machine.
If you want the Retina version, be prepared to pay the Apple Tax.
If you want the Retina version, be prepared to pay the Apple Tax.
non-Retina still lower res than MBA?
Anyone else wondering why the non-Retina still has the old school 1280x800 res versus 1440x900 like the MBA counterpart? I could live without retina, especially with the announced specs, but not when the MBA has a better display specs.
Anyone else wondering why the non-Retina still has the old school 1280x800 res versus 1440x900 like the MBA counterpart? I could live without retina, especially with the announced specs, but not when the MBA has a better display specs.
I wonder if/when Apple will update the Airs again? I'm asking from the standpoint of if the Airs get a retina display, how would one differentiate the 13" Air & the 13" Pro?
No dedicated GPU, 128 GB Flash for $1699 or $1999 for 256 GB Flash, no Corporate / Military discount YET (so I was told by Apple - I am both Corp & Military) I work 500 yards from an Apple Store and I brought $1800 cash plus a credit card. Overpriced........I think i'll pass for now.
They probably won't give the MBAs retina displays, however, they probably will give the MBAs IPS screens.
THAT bad? No. But for $700 less I'd rather just go with a MacBook Air as they've been on sale a few times the past few months for $999. I wouldn't mind forking out the big bucks if they had thrown in a 640/650m
IMHO, as long as they operate smoothly for day to day tasks and don't choke on 1080p H.264 video, they should be OK for the majority of people.
But if you are talking about gaming ... well you might be buying the wrong line of laptops.
Likewiseespecially considering that the integrated graphics will be sucking out quite a bit of RAM to drive the retina display.
That is flippin pricey. All flash is too expensive at this point for me. Plus to get 16gb or ram is a back breaker.
Why only 8 gig? why??? Oh, probably because it's dual core
The year is almost 2013,
8 Gb is the MINIMUM for today,
I would expect at least 8 GB, and 16 GB as standard.
And what's up with dual core??? Just because I like smaller computer apple decide that they can't put quad core inside?
The year is almost 2013,
8 Gb is the MINIMUM for today,
I would expect at least 8 GB, and 16 GB as standard.
And what's up with dual core??? Just because I like smaller computer apple decide that they can't put quad core inside?
That's about it.
Anandtech recently revealed that the overall performance increase will only be "five to fifteen percent".
This new Apple Retina with the ridiculous price is a LEMON.
up to 15% improvement in GPU processing. in other words it'll be able to drive the pixels better than the current chip which is already struggling.
OMG this macbook pro 13" is so overpriced because of that crappy GPU too
rather keep my hackintosh with GTX 560
rather keep my hackintosh with GTX 560
One small detail, one huge consequence...
I'm just going to say it, this is a product that doesn't even need to exist. In a similar configuration the Air is lighter and cheaper, for a few hundred more the 15" rMBP is more than twice as powerful in CPU and has 3x better Graphics performance.
Nothing about this device qualifies as Pro except the screen, but guess what you are driving all those pixels using an integrated GPU which means you can FORGET about any type of benefit from any application/game that uses hardware based graphics acceleration (Any Pro App).
On top of that you can look forward to a laggier and more jittery experience in everyday *basic* desktop usage given you are REALLY stretching the capabilities of that iGPU. I don't care what the numbers on paper state, the HD 4000 is not trully capable of delivering a PRO experience at Retina Resolution.
The added benefit of running any high end app that taxes the HD 4000 is that you will also get a significant reduction in CPU performance as the Intel chip will need to throttle down speeds based on thermal constraints since you are including everything on 1 chip (if the GPU is running at 100% the Dual Cores will never reach their full speed) Bravo... Bravo...
I'm just going to say it, this is a product that doesn't even need to exist. In a similar configuration the Air is lighter and cheaper, for a few hundred more the 15" rMBP is more than twice as powerful in CPU and has 3x better Graphics performance.
Nothing about this device qualifies as Pro except the screen, but guess what you are driving all those pixels using an integrated GPU which means you can FORGET about any type of benefit from any application/game that uses hardware based graphics acceleration (Any Pro App).
On top of that you can look forward to a laggier and more jittery experience in everyday *basic* desktop usage given you are REALLY stretching the capabilities of that iGPU. I don't care what the numbers on paper state, the HD 4000 is not trully capable of delivering a PRO experience at Retina Resolution.
The added benefit of running any high end app that taxes the HD 4000 is that you will also get a significant reduction in CPU performance as the Intel chip will need to throttle down speeds based on thermal constraints since you are including everything on 1 chip (if the GPU is running at 100% the Dual Cores will never reach their full speed) Bravo... Bravo...
Really let down by the 1699$ price. At 1499$, I would have bought it right then and there. The 15" is much better value, the Retina display being a no-cost option considering an equivalent 15" cMBP. Why the sudden 200$ premium for the 13" model ?
The chip isn't struggling at running the pixels. The 2008 MacBook with a 9400m integrated GPU could run a 30" ACD with the same pixel count, 2560x1600, along with its internal display of 1280x800 just fine.
As stated often here: the problem is with the handling of HiDPI mode in the software stack, not pushing the actual pixels by the GPU.
The chip isn't struggling at running the pixels. The 2008 MacBook with a 9400m integrated GPU could run a 30" ACD with the same pixel count, 2560x1600, along with its internal display of 1280x800 just fine.
As stated often here: the problem is with the handling of HiDPI mode in the software stack, not pushing the actual pixels by the GPU.
The current problem with lag on MBPr is driver issues. It is proved. HD4000 can drive screens up to 4K and at 2880x1800 it lags on certain animations it' isn't quite right. I think that with 13" MBPr Apple can speed up the fix for lag transitions.