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Apple Music didn't exist in 2012 . So I don't get the comparison....????

I think he is trying to say a 50% discount for a streaming service if you are a student is not a NEW offer.
Apple are 'copying' Spotify here.
Which is great!
In the UK, 50% off has been available for at least 4 years to student spotify users.
 
Long term rent is never a good option.
That is basically what AM is.

Maybe its my age, but I really don't get why people think $10 is expensive.

Just because there are other places to get music for less, or even for free, doesn't mean that the music doesn't have a valu

For me, I think $10/month is expensive because of the alternatives, and the fact that I already have a large collection of music.

If you are a student, with a relatively small collection of music, AM @$4.99 for 4 years might be a pretty good deal. There are other situations that it might be a pretty good deal.
 
But, I am not a lover of renting music, because I know I cannot control when publisher pulls the plug and remove the music you like.
This is something that I think people don't really think about. Also, Apple could end the service at any time, look at .Mac, iTools, iTunes Radio+Match.


In the past, I spent my precious money on records I love (vinil and cd) and listen to them anytime, every time I want without spending any more money.

Watch it, some posters on here think that you are not a fan of music because you rather own over renting.
 
What I don't understand about this student discount is I have kids. My middle schooler wants a lot of things. She wants an iPhone, iPad and MacBook and of course Apple Music and Beats too. Why they don't give them discount and they don't work. These college kids have more money than my kids. :rolleyes:
 
That is basically what AM is.

For me, I think $10/month is expensive because of the alternatives, and the fact that I already have a large collection of music.

If you are a student, with a relatively small collection of music, AM @$4.99 for 4 years might be a pretty good deal. There are other situations that it might be a pretty good deal.

Which alternatives are they though? If there is a alternative method of being able to listen to pretty much any music I want, ad free, and combined with my existing library for less than $10 I'd love to know about it. (Although even at $10 I don't know that the numbers for streaming really pays enough to most artists).

And I disagree that having a large collection of music objectively makes $10 expensive. If, for example, Beyonce's first album was worth $10, that's like saying her new one is only worth less because you already have the others. Which makes no sense.

Similarly, if you've already bought ten bottles of coke at a dollar each, you wouldn't expect to get the next bottle for 10 cents.

Again, maybe its my age, but there does seem to be this notion that people have that if something is available via the internet, it should cost next to nothing.

I see it with apps, where people think that $5 is expensive for an app that could have taken a developer hundreds of hours to develop.
 
Buy your music once and listen to it whenever, wherever, share it with whomever you want.

Vs

Keep buying it forever, and only get to listen to it when you can find a strong enough cellular signal, and never share it with anyone.
It's about variety. And while a lot of older people may have amassed their own collection, younger people listen to a lot of new music all the time and it can be expensive to buy and own it all. AM is not for everyone but it is for a younger generation.

Also you're plain wrong about only being able to listen to the music when you have a cellular signal. Firstly, you can download as much as you want on to each device. Secondly, it works over WiFi, and thirdly, there are hardly any parts of my day where I do not have a cellular connection anyway.
 
Strategically, a smart move. University students who buy into the ecosystem will likely continue to purchase Apple hardware as they move into the real world.

Next step is to make this available worldwide (not just a few selected countries), and then perhaps a $7.99 version for non-students.
 
Buy your music once and listen to it whenever, wherever, share it with whomever you want.

Vs

Keep buying it forever, and only get to listen to it when you can find a strong enough cellular signal, and never share it with anyone.

I don't think its that simple though.

For a start, you can download music from Apple Music to your device, so you're not reliant on a cellular signal.

It really comes down to personal preference - for me $10 to always be able to listen to anything new that I might previously have bought plus stuff I might have been interested in hearing, but couldn't justify the cost on the off chance I'd like it, but never listen to it again, represents great value to me.

In reality, I typically listen to stuff the most when it is first released, but move on to other stuff as it comes out. There probably isn't that much that I would regularly listen to now that was released a few years ago.

So with that in mind, not physically owning something doesn't bother me - I am simply paying to be able to listen to the music, and happy to do so, because it costs me less than buying stuff. If I was buying everything I listen to on AM, it would be costing me way more than $10 a month.

If in the future, AM shut down and I lost everything, the savings I've made over the years would be far in excess of the cost of going out and buying my absolute favourite albums from my time as a subscriber.
 
Which alternatives are they though? If there is a alternative method of being able to listen to pretty much any music I want, ad free, and combined with my existing library for less than $10 I'd love to know about it. (Although even at $10 I don't know that the numbers for streaming really pays enough to most artists).

And I disagree that having a large collection of music objectively makes $10 expensive. If, for example, Beyonce's first album was worth $10, that's like saying her new one is only worth less because you already have the others. Which makes no sense.

Similarly, if you've already bought ten bottles of coke at a dollar each, you wouldn't expect to get the next bottle for 10 cents.

Again, maybe its my age, but there does seem to be this notion that people have that if something is available via the internet, it should cost next to nothing.

I see it with apps, where people think that $5 is expensive for an app that could have taken a developer hundreds of hours to develop.


That is why AM and other services like it is great for you.

At least for me, I'd rather own and use free streaming music to discover and re-discover new music.

BTW, what you are saying is not $10. It is $10 a month to rent the music.

(Although even at $10 I don't know that the numbers for streaming really pays enough to most artists).

You could buy the music instead.

Again, maybe its my age, but there does seem to be this notion that people have that if something is available via the internet, it should cost next to nothing.

I see it with apps, where people think that $5 is expensive for an app that could have taken a developer hundreds of hours to develop.

Not really the same thing. Buying an app, and renting music is a little different.

You are not buying anything. If you stop paying or if Apple ends their service you no longer have access to that music because it is rented.
 
It's interesting they're using Unidays for this. I graduated in 2010 and to this day when my Unidays validation expires I just log in with my uni email address and it reverifies me for another year. Still, I'm a happy Spotify family plan subscriber and not looking to change.
 
So that explains the fake story that emerged yesterday...

Spotify has to lower their student rates after this...
 
That is why AM and other services like it is great for you.

At least for me, I'd rather own and use free streaming music to discover and re-discover new music.

BTW, what you are saying is not $10. It is $10 a month to rent the music.

Sure - its horses for courses. But your preference to do that doesn't make AM expensive, it just means its not for you.

And yes, I know its $10 per month - sorry for not spelling it out each time. :p

You could buy the music instead.

Not for $10 a month I couldn't!

Not really the same thing. Buying an app, and renting music is a little different.

You are not buying anything. If you stop paying or if Apple ends their service you no longer have access to that music because it is rented.

I get that they're not the same thing - I was just talking about the perceived value of both. IMO the value of both is woefully underestimated by many. $5 for an app is not expensive (assuming its a pretty decent app), and $10 a month for a music streaming service is not expensive.)

I've talked a bit more about the swings and roundabouts of buying v subscribing in a post above.
 
Too bad Apple Music is awful and ruins your music library.

iCloud Music Library does that. Apple Music can be used as a pure streaming service without the 'offline sync'/iTunes music library mangling that is iCloud Music Library.
 
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