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On paper it sounds good - £9.99 (about one album) per month for all the musuc you can listen to. For people who tend to buy 2-3 albums per month it's probably a good deal. However, what a lot of people find is as they age and go into their late 20s/30s they have less and less time to listen to music (and more monthly costs to consider). At this point, they either buy less or listen less at which point the cost becomes a bit more relevent. But by now (after 5-10 years of subscribing) if they stop, they loose access.

My current thoughts are to use the Spotify free tier to listen to new music when I can and anything I really like I will look to pick up 2nd hand from Amazon for a few £s. This way I still get the large catalogue of music to stream for the cost of listenting to a few ads, can pickup new music cheaper after a few weeks/months which I can rip and keep forever without any subscription costs.

It all comes down to the numbers for the individual I guess.

If someone in their late teens subscribes to AM for 10 years, that's a cost of $1200.

If they had bought 3 albums a month for 10 years at $10 am album, that's $3600.

Chances are the 28 year old doesn't still listen to a lot of stuff they were listening to five-ten years ago.

The $2400 difference would be a good amount of money to go and buy the stuff they liked and still listened to. Especially as a lot of stuff will likely be cheaper to buy a few years after its first released.

Plus, all the time you are subscribing, the chances are you would listen to a lot of stuff you probably wouldn't have bought, simply because you can without having to pay out $10 for each album.

So even long term in your scenario above I think subscribing would still work out the best option for a lot of people.
 
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Anyone in the UK paying £9.99 is mad get the 15% off iTunes vouchers readily available and pay £8.50 (or nearly 2 months FREE per annum)
 
And other countries? Tim where's your equality?

Depending on article, the visage of "global economy" ceases being one.

Apple is stuck with licensing restrictions it and the record label companies and song owners had to agree on. Their own form of regulations.

If you're referring to something else, nothing has stopped Apple and those that make its decisions from going to places they otherwise wouldn't outside a business setting. And TBH, that's okay. The point of business is making money and putting aside individual opinions and differences. To a certain extent depending on facet being looked at, of course..
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Congratulations. Now get a job and pay full price like the rest of us, dammit! ;)

So many ways that statement can be looked into (e.g. why not the same price for all, which is that commie soshulizm stuff, finding a job in whatever field one graduated in, and so on...)
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It all comes down to the numbers for the individual I guess.

If someone in their late teens subscribes to AM for 10 years, that's a cost of $1200.

If they had bought 3 albums a month for 10 years at $10 am album, that's $3600.

Chances are the 28 year old doesn't still listen to a lot of stuff they were listening to five-ten years ago.

The $2400 difference would be a good amount of money to go and buy the stuff they liked and still listened to. Especially as a lot of stuff will likely be cheaper to buy a few years after its first released.

Plus, all the time you are subscribing, the chances are you would listen to a lot of stuff you probably wouldn't have bought, simply because you can without having to pay out $10 for each album.

So even long term in your scenario above I think subscribing would still work out the best option for a lot of people.

Except many CDs are $8 or less, used CDs can be a lot cheaper, the $10/mo for streaming probably has other fees not being included (or taxes for both venues), digital removes extra cost such as packaging, artwork, physical media, etc, so how come digital is (in most cases) on par per-album? It costs more for the customer who now has to provide the storage and ensure the music files don't get corrupt.

But CDs are uncompressed, allowing for the most detail to come through. Streaming is, even 256kbps or 320, which are almost as good as uncompressed but a distinct ear can pick up on compression artifacting. I'll admit, I'm happy with 256kb or higher AAC, or even 320 MP3...

On the flip side, it can save on the cost.

On the flip flp side, at 30 years one has come even with prices. Now if people are still alive, that's where the ROI really comes in.
 
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Very smart for move by Apple if you think about it. As a student I chose Spotify because of the $5 per month discount and i love it. If apple had this earlier i would have jumped on it. But now I will probably get Apple Music as well because of the exclusives they offer. I think of it as 2 services for the price of 1. Also its cool cause they offer videos too(i don't care for them but its nice to have).
 
It all comes down to the numbers for the individual I guess.

If someone in their late teens subscribes to AM for 10 years, that's a cost of $1200.

If they had bought 3 albums a month for 10 years at $10 am album, that's $3600.

Chances are the 28 year old doesn't still listen to a lot of stuff they were listening to five-ten years ago.

The $2400 difference would be a good amount of money to go and buy the stuff they liked and still listened to. Especially as a lot of stuff will likely be cheaper to buy a few years after its first released.

Plus, all the time you are subscribing, the chances are you would listen to a lot of stuff you probably wouldn't have bought, simply because you can without having to pay out $10 for each album.

So even long term in your scenario above I think subscribing would still work out the best option for a lot of people.

Can't speak for today's 28 y.o. or next decades. I'm 40 something, grew up firmly in the CD era. I have about 300 CDs from my college and early post-college days. Yes, I still listen to many of them -- now ripped as ALAC and MP3 -- because they are "classics" and also bring back good memories. Glad I own those CDs and don't have to keep renting them. I imagine today's 20-somethigs will have albums of the 00 and 10s in their rotation twenty years from now. It's human nature. My parents liked 50s tunes. My grandparents, 20s jazz.

I still buy CDs, though probably not more than 10 a year, because I can better control the sound quality, and no perpetual ransom if I want to listen to them.

I don't find music discovery difficult at all w/o out subscribing. Free version of Spotify, Pandora, old fashioned terrestrial radio, Sound Hounding, even browsing Amazon or iTMS.
 
Very smart for move by Apple if you think about it. As a student I chose Spotify because of the $5 per month discount and i love it. If apple had this earlier i would have jumped on it. But now I will probably get Apple Music as well because of the exclusives they offer. I think of it as 2 services for the price of 1. Also its cool cause they offer videos too(i don't care for them but its nice to have).

Up to you but I think two is a trifle unnecessary, Spotify offer a FREE service as you know.
I'd stick with one or the other.
(Google Play Music subscriber, with Spotify FREE for occasional tracks).
 
On paper it sounds good - £9.99 (about one album) per month for all the musuc you can listen to. For people who tend to buy 2-3 albums per month it's probably a good deal. However, what a lot of people find is as they age and go into their late 20s/30s they have less and less time to listen to music (and more monthly costs to consider). At this point, they either buy less or listen less at which point the cost becomes a bit more relevent. But by now (after 5-10 years of subscribing) if they stop, they loose access.

My current thoughts are to use the Spotify free tier to listen to new music when I can and anything I really like I will look to pick up 2nd hand from Amazon for a few £s. This way I still get the large catalogue of music to stream for the cost of listenting to a few ads, can pickup new music cheaper after a few weeks/months which I can rip and keep forever without any subscription costs.


This sounds like me, although I probably listen more now, I just buy less.

When I was younger, I bought music a lot more. I have so many CDs from over the years, mostly 80s and 90s stuff. But now, I usually only buy a 1 or 2 songs from an album maybe once a month.

It was not too long ago that I purchased more often, but after Apple ended the ad-free iTunes Radio, I hardly ever buy song. I would listen to the iTunes Radio, here a song that I liked but didn't have, and bought it right from the app.

The last few I bought were used CDs from Amazon.
 
This sounds like me, although I probably listen more now, I just buy less.

When I was younger, I bought music a lot more. I have so many CDs from over the years, mostly 80s and 90s stuff. But now, I usually only buy a 1 or 2 songs from an album maybe once a month.

It was not too long ago that I purchased more often, but after Apple ended the ad-free iTunes Radio, I hardly ever buy song. I would listen to the iTunes Radio, here a song that I liked but didn't have, and bought it right from the app.

The last few I bought were used CDs from Amazon.

Amazon Prime Music is very good & FREE if you are Prime.
Also they have just last week in the UK, Germany and Austria integrated with SONOS (this service has been in the USA for a while), their ad free radio stations are FAB.
 
Don't worry if Trump is elected president mucho people will be joining you in Canada.

Or Hillary. We are all losers this election. Time to read up on CFL rules. Nothing against Canada but still what just happened here :(
 
Up to you but I think two is a trifle unnecessary, Spotify offer a FREE service as you know.
I'd stick with one or the other.
(Google Play Music subscriber, with Spotify FREE for occasional tracks).
yeah thats true. i guess now i have no reason for spotify. although i like spotifys UI and enjoy their playlists they have. I'm gonna use both for a little and if anything ill get rid of spotify. i don't like the ads and i like being able to play whatever songs in an album and not only shuffle
 
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The only free streaming option I can think of is Spotify's free tier. If you want to stream music, there aren't that many options that are cheaper than Apple either, if any. Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play Music, etc. all charge $10 a month.

If you buy your music to own it, at $10 a month, that's what? One album? Whereas with a streaming service you can listen to hundreds, if not thousands of songs. So, I'm not sure that I agree with your assessment.

Youtube. Newest DJ mixes too.
 
Youtube. Newest DJ mixes too.

Yep its not free as its $99.99 or £79.00 but there are a heck of a lot of amazon Prime members now. I heard the %'s were off the scale, so if you are Prime check out the FREE Amazon Prime Music app for iOS, SONOS etc
A 30th of choice but excellent ad free radio stations.
 
Except many CDs are $8 or less, used CDs can be a lot cheaper, the $10/mo for streaming probably has other fees not being included (or taxes for both venues), digital removes extra cost such as packaging, artwork, physical media, etc, so how come digital is (in most cases) on par per-album? It costs more for the customer who now has to provide the storage and ensure the music files don't get corrupt.

But CDs are uncompressed, allowing for the most detail to come through. Streaming is, even 256kbps or 320, which are almost as good as uncompressed but a distinct ear can pick up on compression artifacting. I'll admit, I'm happy with 256kb or higher AAC, or even 320 MP3...

On the flip side, it can save on the cost.

On the flip flp side, at 30 years one has come even with prices. Now if people are still alive, that's where the ROI really comes in.

Sure, a lot of CDs, even new ones, can be a bit less than $10. But for the sake of the argument $10 seems a reasonable figure to use.

Every little bit you might save with that could probably be made up for by listening to a fair amount of stuff you probably wouldn't buy on CD, but could listen to on AM.

I don't think streaming has other costs - its £9.99 here in the UK including tax.

I don't spend anything on storage or specific measures to prevent corruption. I just use my computer and phone that I have anyway. I suppose you could apportion an amount to those sorts of things, but honestly, I think that's being a bit pedantic.

And yes - if you have a good ear you might notice a difference. I might not be able to tell the difference between a current iPhone and a good pair of headphones and very high quality audio, but I can certainly tell that a current iPhone with a good pair of headphones is way better than an older mp3player and a cheap pair of headphones.
 
Spotify still better in every way.

In Spotify (iOS), if you tap on an artist, you get to a long list of all their songs.

I don't think that is better than tapping on an artist and getting to a list of their albums.

So that's one way Spotify isn't as good.

IMHO.
 
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