That is the feature I am REALLY wanting and would be willing to pay for.
Sign me up too, I'll gladly pay ... wait a minute, I already do.
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Apple Introduces Beta of Next MobileMe Mail
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Sign me up too, I'll gladly pay ... wait a minute, I already do.
What exactly is awful about it? Why don't you send Apple feedback? Tip, you will have to be more specific than "its awful." Fix the grammar too.
I want to be able to send to the groups I already have defined in my address book (on the iPhone too!)
To me that reads, we will be added to the beta today, but it's only like 6.30am in the Apple HQ
Just my 2 cents
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Can it do HTML emails yet??? Sigh
Can it do HTML emails yet??? Sigh
I wonder how many people actually frequently use the MobileMe webmail interface? It seems like I always have either my laptop and use the Mail app, or I have my iPhone and use the Mail app on that for me.com email. It's rare that I'm without my iPhone and need to log in via another computer to check my mail.
Nevertheless, I'm happy to see Apple polishing MobileMe, and look forward to more refinements, new features, and perhaps a cheaper (free) price as some rumors have hinted.
Nevertheless, I'm happy to see Apple polishing MobileMe, and look forward to more refinements, new features, and perhaps a cheaper (free) price as some rumors have hinted.
I haven't gone as far as groups yet since I only see a third of my address book. I hate to add them cause I then have doubles.
Mobile ME should be free with the purchase of anything Apple. As it stands Google does everything ME does (with the exception of locating your iPhone) for free and much better. I've used Google sync to setup contacts and calendar sync between my iPhone when I was an iPhone customer and my Macbook and Windows PC. Today I'm all synced up between my work PC, home PC/Macbook, and Android phone.
On my Android based phone I use now, the pictures I take on my phone sync with Picasa which Google gives me 1gig of storage for pictures or I can upgrade to 20Gigs for $5 per year which is less than 50 cents per month. I'm sure there are some iPhone apps out there that will upload photos to Picasa. I love Picasa because I can set albums to private, public, public with a "secret" link, or I can allow specific users based off their Google account usernames.
On my Android based phone I use now, the pictures I take on my phone sync with Picasa which Google gives me 1gig of storage for pictures or I can upgrade to 20Gigs for $5 per year which is less than 50 cents per month. I'm sure there are some iPhone apps out there that will upload photos to Picasa. I love Picasa because I can set albums to private, public, public with a "secret" link, or I can allow specific users based off their Google account usernames.
They don't have late-night editorial staff apparently.
Both Cnet and Macworld posted about this last night.
It looks nice. If only Apple would bother updating the Mail application on the Mac, which is apparently still stuck in the year 2000.
I missed that somehow lol
Hopefully later today then!!! Will be interesting to see if any speed increase retrieving / sending mail as it lags behind my others
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google doesn't do back to my mac and doesn't sync anything but contacts and calendar. MM syncs bookmarks, dock items, and more. It also allows scheduled backup to your iDisk. Oh, and doesn't mine your data to sell to god knows who.
I would love to de-google myself, but I can't leave gmail because MM mail isn't good enough (mostly it's the performance). If they can make mm as fast and reliable as gmail, I'll gladly ditch gmail.
Other than that (and iDisk being slow), I love mm and think it's absolutely worth the money.
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google doesn't do back to my mac and doesn't sync anything but contacts and calendar. MM syncs bookmarks, dock items, and more. It also allows scheduled backup to your iDisk. Oh, and doesn't mine your data to sell to god knows who.
I would love to de-google myself, but I can't leave gmail because MM mail isn't good enough (mostly it's the performance). If they can make mm as fast and reliable as gmail, I'll gladly ditch gmail.
Other than that (and iDisk being slow), I love mm and think it's absolutely worth the money.
Google Still Rules the Roost
The beta features read like a feature list from Gmail cerca 2006.
Server side rules and SSL are de facto features on free webmail nowadays, Apple has a long way to go to bring its web services (which are becoming ever more important, and will sooner rather than later surpass the importance of a user's local OS) current.
I think MobileMe services will eventually be included free with iPhone purchases so Apple can compete with Google's encroachment into the iPhone space.
The beta features read like a feature list from Gmail cerca 2006.
Server side rules and SSL are de facto features on free webmail nowadays, Apple has a long way to go to bring its web services (which are becoming ever more important, and will sooner rather than later surpass the importance of a user's local OS) current.
I think MobileMe services will eventually be included free with iPhone purchases so Apple can compete with Google's encroachment into the iPhone space.
iChat natively supports Jabber and actually has a profile particularly for Google Talk. MobileMe iChat is basically Apple branded AIM, as its based on the same protocol.
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Just to follow up on my "data mining" point - I always think it's funny when people describe google services as "free." in the sense that you don't write a check to google, yes. But there's always a price to pay for anything of value (which google's services are). In google's case, the price is that they take your private information and sell it to others and/or use it to try to sell you stuff directly. That to me is a real cost. If you don't see it that way then enjoy, but make no mistake - google's services have an upfront out of pocket cost of zero, but they're far from free.
Just to follow up on my "data mining" point - I always think it's funny when people describe google services as "free." in the sense that you don't write a check to google, yes. But there's always a price to pay for anything of value (which google's services are). In google's case, the price is that they take your private information and sell it to others and/or use it to try to sell you stuff directly. That to me is a real cost. If you don't see it that way then enjoy, but make no mistake - google's services have an upfront out of pocket cost of zero, but they're far from free.
finally, hopefully its useable. The current site is painfully slow, lucky their imap servers run better.
Good points... I generally agree, Apple has to provide greater value... and perhaps something more compelling. Usually Apple charges a premium for their products - and while their products aren't always great at everything, they usually have one or two compelling features that they excel at - and thus provide some sorta reason for charging a premium.
I'm not sure if MobileMe has this, yet.
Just a few points regarding MM vs. Google Sync:
As far as bookmarks go, MM does sync from Safari on a PC or Mac to Safari on an iDevice, but it doesn't provide any web based access to them. You have to edit your bookmarks on a device that you have set up for sync while Google's Chrome based sync integrates your bookmarks into your Google Docs for easy editing and sharing even when away from one of your devices. Plus, the newest version of Chrome supports preference sync, too.
The system-wide preference and Dock sync that MobileMe provides is nice in principle, but even though I use three Macs, I've yet to find a great use for it. I find that I want my preferences and Docks to be different on each computer.
While not integrated with the MobileMe or Google suites, LogMeIn Free is far better and more reliable than Back To My Mac (try it, www.logmein.com). I've actually phased out my use of Back To My Mac entirely in favor of LMI, Apple's VNC implementation is inadequate at best.
Using Backup.app to send files to iDisk is unbearably slow and has very limited options. For backing up your entire Home volume or specific types of files, Mozy is quicker and less intrusive. Plus, Time Machine backups are much more robust and there are numerous ways to upload your Time Machine backups to online storage (Time Warp is one). You can also upload any file under 250MB to Google Docs.
On balance, I don't think MM's service is worth the cost due to the vestigial nature of its web services and incomplete software features even though it is tightly integrated into OS X.
[I just saw your followup and agree that there is a subtle cost associated with Google's services if you're against having your private data aggregated and sold. Remember, there is Google Apps Premier for $50 a year per user that, at least, gets rid of ads in Gmail.]
Too bad I can't request the beta from my iPhone. (Our web blocking subscription automatically blocks https://www.me.com/mail/.) I wonder if I'll still be able to sign up by this evening...
finally an update
Yes, finally. I have been complaining of how poor of a service Mobile me has been since I subscribed. I hope that they will finally come up with something that is at least a little comparable with gmail, which is free and so much better in all respects!
Yes, finally. I have been complaining of how poor of a service Mobile me has been since I subscribed. I hope that they will finally come up with something that is at least a little comparable with gmail, which is free and so much better in all respects!
Valid question and I have NEVER used it. Why would you need to if you have mail.app + an iPhone/Touch?
Instead of prettying some UI I think they need to get iDisk to where 3rd party "iDiskesque" apps are at since it is their OWN app and they need to do something about that godawful annual fee and dinky storage space (without having to fork out more $).
Especially if you buy a new iMac / iPhone / iPad for example. MobileMe should be somewhere around $19.00 max. (100GB incl).
p.s. I just noticed I'm a newbie yet I joined in 2004
