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Trying to run Ventura on my late 2013 MacBook Pro.

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I think this sums up latest direction and efforts of MacOS...Seems to be a move to make the computer into a phone. And what you end up is, well, summed up in all the Ace Ventura memes and gifs...
 
I wish Apple allowed us to put widgets on the desktop... Shame.
Yes, a day doesn't go by when I don't utter a colourful, unprintable word or two at the loss of the dashboard. Even in its limited form when I upgraded to the BS OS (Big Sur) last year, there were a number of widgets I used daily. The notification centre is an extremely poor substitute.
 
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Small detail here, but why Apple is still giving a proper name only to macOS (ventura)? Wouldn’t it be more consistent to only be named macOS 13? It’s funny to hear Craig about the crack marketing team choosing the name each year, but I think it’s time for apple to have a more consistent naming scheme for its operation systems. Not that I care that much about that, I am just curious about this persistent tradition.
 
I think macOS Ventura will get released early and not have many features. I believe that late September, to early August, is when Ventura will get released.
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Application window management has been atrocious on macOS for years now. Absolutely bloody unbelievable that you have to pay for an app in the store to get decent 4-split setups (Magnet, IIRC).
Or you might use one of the free apps, like Rectangle, instead
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Apple needs to do what it takes to bring AAA titles to the Mac. They need to either bring in eGPU support or keep augmenting the GPU on the M series. Mostly they need to buy a gaming dev studio to get the ball rolling.
 
What about memory leaks? Did they fix them?
Seriously, I can live without my phone automatically connecting to my computer (I find it pretty annoying, to be fair) or letting my wife see what pr0n I am watching showing others what tabs I am looking at live.
Also, what's wrong with Settings app? It's pretty usable as it is now - why change?
 
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These cooperative features and the way things link up between Macs, iPads and iPhones have plenty of potential appeal. But my experience with Universal Control has not been unalloyed joy.

If I am using my MBP near my iPad, I keep inadvertently moving the mouse onto the iPad's screen. Which wakes it up.

If I then move my MBP something like ten to fifteen metres away, mouse movement on the MBP judders and is unusable. I suspect that the effective connectivity is at the very low bits per second. And the MBP, knowing it is connected to the iPad, keeps waiting for confirmation that the last movement has been effected by the iPad.

The result is a huge reduction in battery life of my iPad. (Reducing the time to turn off display helps a bit.)

I'd like to think these devices could be more aware of distances and would disconnect at a defined distance, or when the signal drops below a certain level. For me, two or three metres would be fine.

And it would be nice to have a menu bar item to cut off UC (or other such connectivity) without having to dive into settings - and tell us the current status. (If there is an option like that, I have not yet found it.)
 
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Craig doing his best Baywatch impression.

Small detail here, but why Apple is still giving a proper name only to macOS (ventura)? Wouldn’t it be more consistent to only be named macOS 13? It’s funny to hear Craig about the crack marketing team choosing the name each year, but I think it’s time for apple to have a more consistent naming scheme for its operation systems. Not that I care that much about that, I am just curious about this persistent tradition.

welcome to post Steve Jobs apple culture with ridiculous gimmicks and disturbing amount or self congratulating corporate circlejerking.
During Steves era Craig Federighi in keynotes was a just a random tech engineer and not a celebratory taking part in unfunny awkward slow motion cgi skits. wtf was the justification for that lengthy Baywatch slomo scene? Is this an insider apple joke?

I miss Steve Jobs standing on a simple black stage showing us first hand wonderful products and features. Now we are blinded by pre recorded Hollywood produced keynotes with flash cgi, execs with overinflated cringe egos and obnoxious background music from their muti billion dollar hq..
 
welcome to post Steve Jobs apple culture with ridiculous gimmicks and disturbing amount or self congratulating corporate circlejerking.
During Steves era Craig Federighi in keynotes was a just a random tech engineer and not a celebratory taking part in unfunny awkward slow motion cgi skits. wtf was the justification for that lengthy Baywatch slomo scene? Is this an insider apple joke?

I miss Steve Jobs standing on a simple black stage showing us first hand wonderful products and features. Now we are blinded by pre recorded Hollywood produced keynotes with flash cgi, execs with overinflated cringe egos and obnoxious background music from their muti billion dollar hq..
..and yet the products and services are better than ever.
 
FaceTime handoff is good. Stage Manager is also a good addition.
I’m curious about FaceTime handoff - specifically does it work with regular phone calls with continuity? I use my Mac and iPad to answer iPhone calls all the time via continuity and it would be awesome if I could move the calls between devices.
 
These cooperative features and the way things link up between Macs, iPads and iPhones have plenty of potential appeal. But my experience with Universal Control has not been unalloyed joy.

If I am using my MBP near my iPad, I keep inadvertently moving the mouse onto the iPad's screen. Which wakes it up.

If I then move my MBP something like ten to fifteen metres away, mouse movement on the MBP judders and is unusable. I suspect that the effective connectivity is at the very low bits per second. And the MBP, knowing it is connected to the iPad, keeps waiting for confirmation that the last movement has been effected by the iPad.

The result is a huge reduction in battery life of my iPad. (Reducing the time to turn off display helps a bit.)

I'd like to think these devices could be more aware of distances and would disconnect at a defined distance, or when the signal drops below a certain level. For me, two or three metres would be fine.

And it would be nice to have a menu bar item to cut off UC (or other such connectivity) without having to dive into settings - and tell us the current status. (If there is an option like that, I have not yet found it.)
My only take away from these new features
- just more crap features to keep you invested in Apple, like Tide is "new" each year, its soap, similar with Apple "new" features, it's an OS, and very mature at this point as being a toaster.
- just more crap you need to turn off disable to streamline things
- just more crap you need to manage to mange other things to manage other things (see point above)
- previous "new" feature never fully implemented or improved, or just abandoned by Apple, (see 2 points above)

Happy Mojave user!
 


Apple today announced the next version of macOS, called macOS Ventura, with several new features, including Stage Manager, Continuity Camera, new security updates, and more.

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Stage Manager helps you focus on the app you're using without any distractions by arranging all unused apps on the side, with the main and active app in the middle.

Continuity Camera gives macOS users the ability to use their iPhone as a webcam. Using the Continuity feature, Mac can automatically recognize and use the camera on iPhone when it's nearby.

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When connected, Continuity Camera offers existing features like Center Stage, Portrait mode, and more. It'll also use the iPhone's Ultra Wide camera to enable Desk View, showing the user's face and an overhead of their desk.

For FaceTime, you can now start a FaceTime call on one Apple device and transfer it to another using Handoff.

In Safari, Tab Groups will let friends and family share their favorite sites and see what tabs others are looking at live. The group can build a list of bookmarks on a shared Start Page, and even start Messages conversations or FaceTime calls right from Safari.

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Similar to the updates coming to iOS 16, Messages on the Mac will let users edit or undo a recently sent message, mark a message as unread, or recover accidentally deleted messages.

macOS Ventura also improves Spotlight with Rich Results, coming to iOS and iPadOS, letting users take actions right from within Spotlight. Spotlight also now indexes more apps, including Photos and Live Text, and more.

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As part of macOS Ventura, Apple is also adding big improvements to the Mail app on Mac. Undo Send will let users undo a sent email a few moments after it's sent. Users will now also be able to schedule emails and add reminders to follow-up.

iCloud Shared Photo Library will let family members create and share a photo library among up to six people. Everyone in the library can add, delete, or edit photos, and they can select which photos from their library they want to add into the shared library.

In a bid to enhance security, Apple has introduced "Passkeys" in Safari. Described as next-generation credentials that are more secure than passwords, Passkeys are unique digital keys that stay on device and are never stored on a web server.

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Users can easily create Passkeys using Touch ID or Face ID, and iCloud Keychain saves all Passkeys to sync across devices with end-to-end encryption.

Apple also highlighted Metal 3, the latest version of the software that powers gaming experiences across Apple devices. Combined with Apple silicon, the company noted that "even greater gaming experiences" will be arriving on Macs.

Other macOS Ventura updates:
  • Live Text now supports paused video frames and can detect Japanese and Korean text.
  • Visual Look Up can recognize animals, birds, insects, statues, and more landmarks.
  • Weather and Clock apps have been optimized for Mac.
  • New accessibility tools include Live Captions for all audio content, Type to Speak on calls, Text Checker, and more.
  • System Preferences has been renamed to System Settings, and features a streamlined design similar to iPhone and iPad Settings app.
macOS Ventura will be available to all supported Macs later this year, with a developer beta available later today and public beta testers in July.

Article Link: Apple Introduces macOS Ventura: First Look at New Features
Ventura isn't the most iconic place in California. Just sayin'. Doesn't seem to match their other names. Maybe should be more ordinary places like say Pittsburg, Oakland or the capital Sacramento. Lake Tahoe?
 
Apple needs to do what it takes to bring AAA titles to the Mac. They need to either bring in eGPU support or keep augmenting the GPU on the M series. Mostly they need to buy a gaming dev studio to get the ball rolling.
I liked the announcement of No Man’s Sky coming to the Mac. That is the first game that I actually thought might be interesting to play with.
 
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I liked the announcement of No Man’s Sky coming to the Mac. That is the first game that I actually thought might be interesting to play with.

I don't know about the rest of you, but didn't the playback of No Man's Sky etc look poor? I hope that's because of the stream because it certainly didn't impress me.
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but didn't the playback of No Man's Sky etc look poor? I hope that's because of the stream because it certainly didn't impress me.
Maybe the port is still in development? I didn’t notice at the time. too excited. Will have to go back and rewatch.
 
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