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Hm, I'm tempted to buy one just because it's, well, an apple two button mouse (or whatever you want to call it). But if it does physically click, why would it need that speaker thing?
 
grapes911 said:
Within the last several months, Logitech released the mx518. I'm sure I could think of others if I tried.

ok, maybe im wrong.

But do you disagree with my assessment that in ten years (give or take a few), no one will use a wired mouse?
 
dejo said:
I think it must still be confusing when instructed to "right-click" when you're a south-paw. "Now, is that my right or yours?"...
There are advantages too. Nobody wants to get their greasy fingers all over your computer because the mouse and keyboard are on the wrong side.
 
Just came back from the Apple Store with the Mighty Mouse in stow!

This mouse ROCKS!!! Any concerns about touch sensitivity or whatever are completely and utterly invalid! This mouse somehow just KNOWS what button you want to click. It's just magic. Even the wheel button is clicked with the "one" button. There's literally only ONE button that's made into three somehow! Amazing! Best. Mouse. Ever!

I'm selling my MX1000.
 
Is there a "click" when scrolling using the scroll ball?
Raven VII said:
Just came back from the Apple Store with the Mighty Mouse in stow!

This mouse ROCKS!!! Any concerns about touch sensitivity or whatever are completely and utterly invalid! This mouse somehow just KNOWS what button you want to click. It's just magic. Even the wheel button is clicked with the "one" button. There's literally only ONE button that's made into three somehow! Amazing! Best. Mouse. Ever!

I'm selling my MX1000.
 
a17inchFuture said:
Both versions of the earphones do, thats for sure. Not to mention the actual metal fitting fell off one of my earbuds the other day. Had to superglue a 40 dollar pair of earphones that i bought 5 months ago, never use, and more specifically, when I do, I only use one, the one that DIDN'T fall off.

Strangely enough, the metal fitting fell off my earbud yesterday but rather than superglueing it and just moaning about it here, I'm taking the set back to the Apple Store and asking them to repair it. That way, I'm happy since I still have working headphones and they get notice that there may be a problem with the glue they're using and might do something about it.
 
Now, if only Apple releases a Bluetooth, laser mouse with back/forward buttons and built in charger, and a price cut of $10, I will buy.
 
DrNeroCF said:
Hm, I'm tempted to buy one just because it's, well, an apple two button mouse (or whatever you want to call it). But if it does physically click, why would it need that speaker thing?
What speaker thing? :confused:
 
a17inchFuture said:
But do you disagree with my assessment that in ten years (give or take a few), no one will use a wired mouse?
I totally disagree with you.

I use a wireless mouse for most things. I would not trade my wired mouse (mx300) for anything though. One, I can't game with wireless mouses. They are too heavy for me to be quick with (esp 1st person shooters). Two, once and a while I forget to charge my mx700.

Another example. At my work we have 40 PowerMacs. No computer is specially assigned to anyone, meaning everyone uses whichever one is available. Can you imagine the the extra complexity of having wireless mouses. Who forgot to charge this mouse? Who's turn it is to change the batteries? Where did this mouse go? Did this belong to the Mac or that one? You might say this sounds silly, but I guarantee it would happen. It it did, we would definitely be less productive.
 
benpatient said:
i'm amazed at the number of people on this thread who think that there is a sizeable population of people out there who can't figure out left-click, right-click.

Honestly, there are. I work with several people who get confused over right/left click and they're dyed in the wool Windows folk who have never been near a Mac in their lives. It works like this - they are happily left clicking their way through an program. You're telling them what to do next. Suddenly, you introduce a single right click into the flow to go to Properties or something. Now for the next 10 or so clicks, they'll ask you whether you want them to right click or left click when beforehand they weren't thinking about it.

I'm not saying that experienced computer users (Mac or PC) can't cope with 2 buttons but for inexperienced/nervous users, they really do get surprisingly confused. I'm constantly astonished by it given that most of them have had PCs on their desks for years tho none of them would describe themselves as power users. Then again, keyboard shortcuts scare them even more! :p

I use 2 buttons happily at work although I do notice my ring finger gets weary after a while. And I use my Powerbook with a single button at home (I had a 2 button mouse plugged in for a month after I switched) but then realised that I was so rarely right clicking that I could cope with one.
 
DrNeroCF said:
Hm, I'm tempted to buy one just because it's, well, an apple two button mouse (or whatever you want to call it). But if it does physically click, why would it need that speaker thing?

Have to correct myself, there is no speaker, is another clicking noise for the side click, is a wisper click.
 
grapes911 said:
I totally disagree with you.

I use a wireless mouse for most things. I would not trade my wired mouse (mx300) for anything though. One, I can't game with wireless mouses. They are too heavy for me to be quick with (esp 1st person shooters). Two, once and a while I forget to charge my mx700.

Another example. At my work we have 40 PowerMacs. No computer is specially assigned to anyone, meaning everyone uses whichever one is available. Can you imagine the the extra complexity of having wireless mouses. Who forgot to charge this mouse? Who's turn it is to change the batteries? Where did this mouse go? Did this belong to the Mac or that one? You might say this sounds silly, but I guarantee it would happen. It it did, we would definitely be less productive.

Not a bad point, but thats why they have channels on videogames controllers, so the signals wont get crossed.

And in ten years, the wireless mouses will probably be lighter than the current tethered ones.

I still think that in tens years no one will have wired controllers.

P.S. "who's turn is it to change the batteries?" - come on, lets be realistic here.
 
~Shard~ said:
Riiiight, because Apple completely halted all other engineering, design and production departments within the entire company to focus on designing a mouse. It's all they've been doing for the past 6 months, it took up al their resouerces. Nothing else is being worked on. :rolleyes:

Well Yes! Where are are the products then? Oh wait let me guess next Tuesday right?
 
i'm going to call that the next PowerBook is going to have touch sensitive trackpad or whatever you call that clicker. so no mor CMD+Click :)
 
mac_zealot88 said:
What speaker thing? :confused:

Read the specs - the Mighty Mouse has a built-in speaker to respond to your actions:

Mighty Mouse even sounds as good as it feels. The audio feedback built into Mighty Mouse provides an aural sensation that responds to your movements. When you scroll or click, Mighty Mouse produces subtle sound effects based on your actions.
 
a17inchFuture said:
This is totally weak.

yay, we're all excited that constantly behind the times apple has come up with a two button mouse!
You are so right--Apple improves their products far too slowly. When has Apple ever been first with anything useful? OS-integrated instant search? Standard WiFi? DVD burners? Firewire? iPods? All useless. And you're right about this two-button mouse. Apple says this mouse says has four button functions, but it doesn't.

a17inchFuture said:
yay, they are finally caught up with every other accessory company in the world!
Right again--this mouse doesn't have the world's first mouse scrollball, nor a squeeze trigger, nor the ability to be one-button or more on a user-specific basis.

a17inchFuture said:
Oh, wait, that's right. Its tethered to the computer, lacking wireless function.
Three for three! All other mice in the world need batteries. Why not this one?

a17inchFuture said:
as usual, it sucks to be an apple customer.

Now I'll go back to word prcoessing on my top of the line 17inch powerbook that was made obsolete by the first next generation of ibooks that came out 6 months ago
You are so right--Apple improves their products far too quickly.
 
Bob Knob said:
There is an option to turn on and off a direction, but there doesn't seem to be a "hot-modifier key" option to toggle the settings.
I have played around with a Photoshop doc that was zoomed in, the vertical and horizontal scrolling is very intuitive, so accidental scrolling one way or the other isn't as likely as one might suspect.

Bet money you could tie an apple script to the center button that toggles this so press down on the ball it goes from direction free scrolling to straight line scrolling.
 
What the hell! :eek: I'm using it right now I don't hear anything, I guess it's too subtle or I'm going deaf Ha! :eek:
 
nagromme said:
You are so right--Apple improves their products far too slowly. When has Apple ever been first with anything useful? OS-integrated instant search? Standard WiFi? DVD burners? Firewire? iPods? All useless. And you're right about this two-button mouse. Apple says this mouse says has four button functions, but it doesn't.

You forgot USB as well. ;)

nagromme said:
Right again--this mouse doesn't have the world's first mouse scrollball, nor a squeeze trigger, nor the ability to be one-button or more on a user-specific basis.

Yep, ALL mice have those features - it was about time Apple caught up. ;)

nagromme said:
You are so right--Apple improves their products far too quickly.

Damn them... ;)

Game, set and match Nagromme! :cool:
 
CiBoys said:
The so call "touch senstive" is for the mouse to know where you finger is, you still have to click the mouse inorder for the mouse to to excute the left or the right click. For same reason thats why Apple said that "it wouldn’t be fair to call Mighty Mouse a two-button mouse with one button."
I understand how it works and that it still physically "clicks". My point is why bother with this gimmicky touch sensitive technology to determine which finger is applying more pressure during the click? There is no practical purpose to doing that. It is much simpler, less expensive and simply more intuitive to have a second, independent button that clicks on its own. I haven't noticed anyone crying out "Dear god, don't have a second physical button with a smooth line differentiating the two buttons!"

I truly do believe that this is just Apple's way of skirting the fact that for years they were ignoring a large segment of their user base that would have liked an Apple branded two/multi-button mouse. This new "Mighty Mouse" is a way for them to avoid having to admit such things. They can say, "Well traditional two button mice were problematic and they weren't really what our users wanted, but now that we have this new unnecessary and gimmicky technology to mimic a two button mouse - our type of multi-button mice are acceptable."

You don't have to agree with my belief for why Apple incorporated the touch sensitive technology, but I do understand how this new mouse works and I think the technology they've included in it is unnecessary and is simply done to try to save face. I also think that due to the inclusion of this touch sensitive functionality a wireless flavor of this mouse will be more difficult because there is less room for the transmitter and batteries and also because the touch sensors will drain the battery more quickly. I just don't understand the design decision. There are definitely drawbacks to using the touch sensitive design, but I don't see the benefit. I am open to hear points on why this is better than another physical button - anyone?
 
nagromme said:
You are so right


Thanks, nagromme.

Nice to have someone on the board not trying to trash me (grapes excluded, for he's actualyl debating) for my completely valid qualms.

EDIT: u too, shard, thanks.
 
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