The difference is $89, Apple are using the E5520 not the low powered one. Although that still works out to almost $500 ($373 + $89).
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The difference is $89, Apple are using the E5520 not the low powered one. Although that still works out to almost $500 ($373 + $89).
It would be shocking if Apple actually listened to their user base and dropped the prices after a few days (or before they ship) due to all the outcry. Probably not but boy would that shock the hell out of everyone.
there is no performance difference other than the D-step xeons fully support DDR3-1333, whereas only extreme edition desktop supports 1333. the C-step 920 and 940 only officially support DDR3-1066 (but can usually go to 1333 with some extra voltage).
that and the DP xeons have the second CSI link enabled, but that is a functional enabling, not a performance altering change.
Well if people don't buy then they will have to.
People *will* buy however, and apple does not drop prices.
Im waiting a while before my preorder as per my sig but a PC is seeming a much MUCH better option...
Depending on the benchmark; anywhere from marginally slower to noticeably faster.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipset...ro will beat the previous two-socket Mac Pro.
Apple is starting to be too controlling here
I saw this coming, but I'm really pissed about having only one DVI port on the graphics cards.
What if I want to use two non-Apple, non-glossy displays for video editing? I have to buy a second graphics card!
I'm really hoping ATI or somebody releases a market card that'll work on the new MacPros.
I saw this coming, but I'm really pissed about having only one DVI port on the graphics cards.
What if I want to use two non-Apple, non-glossy displays for video editing? I have to buy a second graphics card!
I'm really hoping ATI or somebody releases a market card that'll work on the new MacPros.
I saw this coming, but I'm really pissed about having only one DVI port on the graphics cards.
What if I want to use two non-Apple, non-glossy displays for video editing? I have to buy a second graphics card!
I'm really hoping ATI or somebody releases a market card that'll work on the new MacPros.
Yeah, that's what I was looking at, but just said generic 35xx and 55xx not specifics parts.
Good catch, I missed that. But it's still another $29 I shouldn't have to spend (just like FW400 to 800 adapters).
Ooohh. I'm liking that new interior... the new drawer at the bottom seems nice. I have a previous gen Mac Pro in my office.
It's not clear to me, if you want to configure for two 24" AND upgrade to the ATI, you need two? There seems to be no way to create that combination with the 'radio buttons' in the configure section or is that because I am assuming something wrong. 2X 24" plus upgrade to better graphics card option=?
Better architecture doesn't need higher clock speeds
Well the Core 2 versus the Pentium 4 proved this to be quite possible. Remember the P4 ran up to 3.8GHz but the Core 2 at under 3GHz blew it away in every regard. For years the AMD Athlon 64 at lower clock speed also blew away the P4 at higher speed. It's a better architecture.
Well the Core 2 versus the Pentium 4 proved this to be quite possible. Remember the P4 ran up to 3.8GHz but the Core 2 at under 3GHz blew it away in every regard. For years the AMD Athlon 64 at lower clock speed also blew away the P4 at higher speed. It's a better architecture.
Well they've screwed up again, same happened the last time I was planning on upgrading my desktop. I ended up getting a refurb dual 2.0 G5 for £1000 rather than the (then) newly released dualcore G5 2.0 for £1800, which although a reasonable price it didn't really give much more for the extra £800.
Looks like I'm gonna have to hit the refurb store again, or really contemplate a hackintosh, because these prices in the UK are just extortionate.
And for what I do I need a MacPro, I'll never buy an all in one again, they just don't have the same kick that a true desktop has, especially with their paltry GPUs and lack of quad core option.
Lets see about the last year, dropping FW in the ALU MB, glossy only in the MBP, loss of ports on the MBP, glossy only on the new iMac, integrated GPUs on the 24" iMac, overpricing on the new MacPros, no updates to any Pro apps (soundtrack is so close to being a usable audio editor, but I still have to use Sound Forge to edit), no BluRay (not that I'm bothered personally, but others are in a vocal manner). Silly new display interface needing more dongles, lack of display options. Anything I missed??
Still, you can make farting noises on your iPhone so I guess this cloud has a silver lining
Looks like I'm gonna have to hit the refurb store again, or really contemplate a hackintosh, because these prices in the UK are just extortionate.
And for what I do I need a MacPro, I'll never buy an all in one again, they just don't have the same kick that a true desktop has, especially with their paltry GPUs and lack of quad core option.
Lets see about the last year, dropping FW in the ALU MB, glossy only in the MBP, loss of ports on the MBP, glossy only on the new iMac, integrated GPUs on the 24" iMac, overpricing on the new MacPros, no updates to any Pro apps (soundtrack is so close to being a usable audio editor, but I still have to use Sound Forge to edit), no BluRay (not that I'm bothered personally, but others are in a vocal manner). Silly new display interface needing more dongles, lack of display options. Anything I missed??
Still, you can make farting noises on your iPhone so I guess this cloud has a silver lining
Massive fail. And I'm not alone in that assessment.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/160608/mac_fans_fume_about_updated_desktops.html
Apple... meet Amigaworld. It's a very pathetic place.
they can't get blu-ray yet due to licensing issues. If they could have them don't you think they would in a second? Apple would LOVE being able to charge a $700 bluray drive BTO!
Mac Standard
For years I've felt Apple ought to release a worthwhile lower-end Mac Pro (a Mac Standard, if you will) by cutting the number of memory slots and CPU sockets in half. Well they've done it, but unfortunately they forgot to lower the price to compensate for it. If the quad 2.66GHz model was $2000 I'd be all over this. I may still buy it eventually, but I'll need to give it serious consideration.
For years I've felt Apple ought to release a worthwhile lower-end Mac Pro (a Mac Standard, if you will) by cutting the number of memory slots and CPU sockets in half. Well they've done it, but unfortunately they forgot to lower the price to compensate for it. If the quad 2.66GHz model was $2000 I'd be all over this. I may still buy it eventually, but I'll need to give it serious consideration.
Apple refurbs rule!
Hey, I love the refurb store. I bought my 2006 Mac Pro from Apple refurb. Full warranty and $300 off (or was it $400?). No problems with this machine for 2 years now.
Hey, I love the refurb store. I bought my 2006 Mac Pro from Apple refurb. Full warranty and $300 off (or was it $400?). No problems with this machine for 2 years now.
Yeah you can get pretty good deals on the refurb stuff, guess I was wanting an 8 core monster to drive logic, but I don't know if I can really splash out the extra £700 or so to go up to 8 cores, think I'll wait and think. I bet the next refresh is all 8 cores.
Gotta love their marketing if nothing else, I sometimes think Apple could make a turd look inviting for a couple of grand
You can and they are. You can also use the 5500 on the single socket board. Quickpath shuts down links that are not fully connected. The daughter card with the CPUs and memory is quickpath connected. The X58 DP northbridge is on the main motherboard.
Quad 2.93 Gz, 6 GB ($3149) or Oct 2.16 Gz, 6GB ($3299)
I'm need to buy a new tower. What's the best bang for the buck?
My application focus is Photoshop, Aperture, Final Cut Pro, VMware, and Windows XP (Autodesk AutoCAD, Revit, and Quantity Takeoff).
- Quad 2.93 Gz, 6 GB ($3149)
or
- Octo 2.16 Gz, 6GB ($3299)
Hopefully, we'll have some benchmarks soon.
I'm need to buy a new tower. What's the best bang for the buck?
My application focus is Photoshop, Aperture, Final Cut Pro, VMware, and Windows XP (Autodesk AutoCAD, Revit, and Quantity Takeoff).
- Quad 2.93 Gz, 6 GB ($3149)
or
- Octo 2.16 Gz, 6GB ($3299)
Hopefully, we'll have some benchmarks soon.
i just purchased one of the new macpro towers and the order notification says it doesnt ship until march 24th and wont be delivered until the 28th!
Something could still happen on March 24th possibly.
Yup, those G5 benchmarks are appreciated. Unfortunately, not quite 2x the performance on Photoshop for the octo 2.93GHz versus the G5...as that would infer that the octo 2.26 will only be roughly a 1.5x gain.
And while its ~3x faster than the meanest G5 isn't a bad thing, considering how much of a resource hog Aperture is ... and which is why I bought Lightroom instead.
All of the intermediate benchmarks are missing. They always are.
Agreed....and lets not forget that the Mac IIcx rang in at $5,000.
Thats kind of the direction that I'm thinking. If we're lucky, the CPUs will be able to be replaced down the road in a couple of years (when they become more affordable).
Exactly. In the real world, there's not a new game out every 6 months that requires the most screamingest GPU card...
The Mac IIcx ... the 'xMac' of its day ... cost a shade over $5K. Want me to go find my receipt?
Ten years later, the 7500-7600 systems (the 'xMac' of its day) cost just under $3K, while the 'true' Tower 8500 configuration coming in at $4K.
The G3 and G4 and the 1.6GHz G5 all had lobotomized 'xMac' lowball variants as well, sometimes at the additional expense of their own unique motherboards so as to minimize/prevent DIY hobbiest upgraders from having a field day...which is exactly what happened to Apple in the 1990s with the 7500-8500-9500 series: these CPUs were on daughterboards which were extremely easy to replace (and for 3rd party vendors to build & sell), which cost Apple a lot of higher-end hardware sales.
IMO, the REAL question here is ... how much more do both Mac Pro variants cost today because of the need to manufacture two motherboard designs so as to prevent lost sales by denying DIY "gosh, let's pop in a second CPU in the empty slot" upgrades?
Which means that it seems that many of our younger brethren have never heard the phrase "MegaHertz Myth".
Of course, a few of us can recall when the cost for 16K worth of RAM on an Apple computer was $500...and then you had to seat all the chips yourself!
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