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Creating some professional apps designed for touch is difficult. Creating a multitasking system is difficult. But in the end it’s worth it. Maybe there are things you will never be able to do on an iPad — that’s fine, there are better devices for that, and the same the other way around, there are things an iPad can do that a Mac can’t.
Some people will need or prefer a laptop - they’l buy a MacBook.

Some will want a hybrid device that goes both ways (tablet/laptop) - they will get an iPad Pro.

Some will only want a tablet - they’ll get any of the iPad lineup.

Giving their expensive top-of-the-line tablets extra optional functionality of running the full OS doesn’t harm them. And it benefits customers. And, call me crazy, but that’s supposed to be their goal. Delight your customers and they become repeat customers and advocates of your brand.
 
Have you got a link to the reviews? I can find nothing online, all the major tech sites are only using details off the presentation, there is no indication anyone has released reviews yet.
None yet. Will be guest to get in may. Just saying what I’m expecting from the first wave of apple homers.
 
The note about working correctly with external screens, is that just going to be full blown Thunderbolt displays, or will it work with HDMI as well?
Not really sure what’s new that enables that.
I’d upgrade just for that if it does, the times I’ve wanted to display content properly on a HDMI TV or monitor.
 
I don't understand. Isn't M1 basically the next iteration of A14x? Is there anything special about M1 that you guys so excited?
Sort of.

Since it's an M1, you get Mac level features, like Thunderbolt support to drive a 6K display. I am sure the storage is faster as well and I am sure there are other goodies.

I'm left wondering if they can shoehorn an M1 (or M whatever) in Apple's next "Pro" phone. Not sure if there is enough room for that chip, but maybe.
 
Some people will need or prefer a laptop - they’l buy a MacBook.

Some will want a hybrid device that goes both ways (tablet/laptop) - they will get an iPad Pro.

Some will only want a tablet - they’ll get any of the iPad lineup.

Giving their expensive top-of-the-line tablets extra optional functionality of running the full OS doesn’t harm them. And it benefits customers. And, call me crazy, but that’s supposed to be their goal. Delight your customers and they become repeat customers and advocates of your brand.

Que antitrust lawsuit….users should have the option to run whatever they want, from wherever they want. Dammit, it’s a Mac! It should be able to run MacOS. 🤔😂
 
I have decide to order the new iPad Pro too! I already have the 2018 model but no Wi-Fi 6. The 2021 iPad Pro has Wi-Fi 6, M1, 8GB RAM. I going go for the entry model this time around however, $799.00. I guess I have to order April 30th? Was saving it for iPad Mini upgrade but nothing!
 
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What I really would like to see happen now is Apple and Microsoft get into an exclusivity agreement to license the Apple silicon for use in Surface Products that way it's easy to integrate bootcamp to Apple Silicon and people who love MacOS could buy a Mac and run Windows and then allow the Surfaces to run on the much better Apple Silicon. The more people are developing for the M1 whether it be on MacOS or Windows 10, the more beneficial it will be to both companies.
 
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What am I looking at here near the cameras? Does it contain a fan or is that just the speakers?

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The zones being the only thing you can mention, because the rest makes obvious why OLED could never power these. OLEDs don’t get to 1000 nits, much less 1600. And HDR being an actual thing, a pro device needs it.

OLED could easily power it, and power it better... but OLED isn't a good choice for static images......

OLED doesn't need to get to 1000 nits. It has true black. It only needs to get to 540 nits and at that stage, it has 50x more dynamic range than an LCD at 1000. The contrast ratio is infinite. HDR is about brightness AND contrast, and as such there's 2 minimum specs to be Premium Certified... minimum brightness of 1000 nits with a black level of a maximum of 0.05 nits (which counts out to a 20,000:1 contrast ratio); or, the second spec is a minimum brightness of 540 nits, along with a black level of a maximum of 0.0005 (which comes out to 1,080,000:1). OLEDs have a black maximum of 0.0... it's true black.
 
Oh my. Time to pack up my 2018 iPad Pro.
I’m more than Good with my 2018 iPad Pro 11 inch.

considering the 12.9 inch iPad Pro 2021 model gets the M one chip but yet still iPadOS? For how long? Is anybody going to buy it knowing it’s still going to be restricted in performance and applications with iPadOS? Very very strange times starting to wonder if Apple didn’t sell as many M1 MacBook airs and MacBooks as I had thought and had to get rid of existing stock pile of chips iPad was a good mix for it but not giving it macOS 11?!

without any promise of macOS for an operating system on an M1 chip iPad Pro? I wouldn’t spend nobodies dollar here in this forum.
 
My iPad Air 1 gen cellular is really getting long in the tooth, it would be great to have some thing a little faster. But it works for now.
 
Kind of disappointing that the 11" doesn't get the upgraded screen tech
I recall there were rumors of low yield on the miniLED display so it might have boiled down to making sure the flagship got the new display first. I can't imagine miniLEDs won't hit the 11", maybe with next year's 11" model if not sooner.
 
I was chuckling to myself during that Mission Impossible style promo where he taps on his Apple Watch to reel himself back up the vent. Imagine if he had used Siri: "I'm working on it."
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And it will continue to be ridiculous. I highly suspect this is just supply chain consolidation, and nothing more. It makes sense for Apple to just make 2 different M1 chips (with 8GB and 16GB RAM) and use them for everything that fits the use case. Note that the M1 is now in: MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, Mac Mini, iMac 24.

Also, Apple doesn't have to keep MacOS virtualized. Note that the new partition scheme locks down the system partition and you cannot unlock it easily within MacOS. Also, it'll be doubly weird if MacOS is virtualized and then you try to use Xcode to develop for the iPad on MacOS. Is that like... virtualization within virtualization? Why do that when you're running on an iPad in the first place?



They will improve iPadOS. I can agree with you on that. They are not going to make iPadOS much more amazing by doing something like merging it with MacOS. That's not their MO.
But then why bother having a 16 GB iPad Pro? Supply chain really doesn't explain it. If a 16 GB version is overkill, just offer the 8 GB version and be done. Nothing compels Apple to do a 16 GB version just because they have it on another platform.

Going with a virtualized version of macOS Big Sur just makes everything so much easier and since the M1 supports it, why not? you get to keep the walled garden and almost no extra development work.
 
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But then why bother having a 16 GB iPad Pro? Supply chain really doesn't explain it. If a 16 GB version is overkill, just offer the 8 GB version and be done. Nothing compels Apple to do a 16 GB version just because they have it on another platform.

Going with a virtualized version of macOS Big Sur just makes everything so much easier and since the M1 supports it, why not? you get to keep the walled garden and almost no extra development work.

The answer would be... perceived value. People are paying upwards of $1799 for a 12.9" iPad Pro with this 16GB chip. Might as well throw in the extra RAM.

Also, if Apple only uses 8GB chips, they may not be able to produce enough of the 8GB chips to satisfy demands. By shifting some of the burdens over to 16GB chip stock, they can ease up a bit on parts hoarding.

I'd also expect 16GB and 32GB RAM chips to be absolutely crucial for the M1X or whichever chip that will be in the 16" MacBook Pro and 27" (30/32"?) iMac later this year. So Apple should have a good amount of 16GB RAM chips in stock.

And again, virtualized Big Sur doesn't make sense. You'd be running Xcode and the simulators as another layer of virtualization on top. Last I checked, nested virtualization is not currently supported by Apple's Hypervisor, so simulator inside a virtualized Big Sur environment is not possible yet.
 
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