Apple Introduces Next-Generation iPad Pro With M1 Chip, Thunderbolt, 5G, XDR Display, and More

[tlnargi]

I see the "up to 16GB of RAM" but I don't see any choice on the webpage. Will it be exclusive to the 2TB option like 2017 pro 6GB?

I don't see this either....

 

[darkslide29]

This is really tempting. I have a 2-year-old vanilla iPad that I don't use much, mainly because there isn't a lot I can do with it. But these new models look much more useful. I'm surprised they didn't announce that Mac apps could run on it. There doesn't seem to be anything preventing that now, especially with a connected keyboard and trackpad.

Sounds more like something to announce at WWDC to give developers a head start, and announced to the public for the new iPadOS. Hopefully? Crossing my fingers.

 

[DarthDon]

if that baby can do such things - imagine the next 16" (or 18") mbp...
maybe a iMac pro 32"...
iPhone pro w/ that display and 2TB SSD 😂😂😂
Mac Pro w/ 4 processors...

 

[anthorumor]

Now grab that 12.9 inch screen and use it in a macOS environment please Tim Apple!

 

[iapplelove]

you know you want it - go for it

lol I just bought a house. I don’t want another iPad

 

[bill-p]

So now iPadOS has access to 16GB of RAM and absolutely nothing that actually makes use of it, nor is there true multitasking. WWDC better shows a completely overhauled iPadOS that's basically MacOS underneath, or otherwise this is way too overkill for a tablet.

It's like the hardware division at Apple wants to flex but the software division is 10 years behind

 

[I7guy]

When do we get M1 in an iPhone?

Might be coming. Iphone 13.

 

[Diatribe]

No ultra wide band chip... weird.

 

[tlnargi]

1TB or 2TB only have the 16GB of RAM....so does that extra RAM only used for the SSD, or can it be used by IOS?

 

[Serban55]

BOTH MODELS GETTING 16GB OF DDR4X RAM😲 only 1/2TB get 16. Other ones get 8GB

EDIT: first iOS/iPadOS product for Apple to mention how much RAM it has

Apple now can officially let macOS run on the ipad...like dual boot ipadOS and madOS
So expect WWDC

 

[redscull]

It uses the same chip as the new iMac, but they made a point in the new iMac video of showing that it still needs cooling fans. So that pretty heavily implies that the M1 in the iPad is either under-clocked relative to other devices using it, or that its performance will be bursty rather than continuous due to heat.

 

[Dreamer2go]

I thought the iPad Pro 2020 version was an overkill.... but now with literally a DESKTOP class processor, AND 16GB of RAM (literally what most Desktop and Laptop has now), iPad Pro 2021 is insanely overkill. They better allow virtualization for BigSur for iPad Pro, otherwise, it's such a waste of power.

 

[conigs]

I picked up a 12.9" Magic Keyboard on sale anticipating getting the new iPad Pros today. But I'm still a little confused if the new 5th gen will really fit last year's keyboards. The new keyboards mostly say they're compatible with 3rd, 4th, and 5th gen which makes me think it'll be fine.

But then on the pricing page there's one portion which says it's only compatible with the new 5th gen…

 

[Wando64]

Get over it, iPad wont (and shouldn’t) run macOS.

From a purely commercial point of view you are obviously correct, and this is probably the line Apple will take for the foreseeable future.

From a technical point of view the new iPad Pro can run MacOS as well as any other M1 powered Mac.

 

[tlnargi]

It uses the same chip as the new iMac, but they made a point in the new iMac video of showing that it still needs cooling fans. So that pretty heavily implies that the M1 in the iPad is either under-clocked relative to other devices using it, or that its performance will be bursty rather than continuous due to heat.

The iMac powers a bigger screen, and maybe MacOS requires more power to run?
Though the 12.9 will have over 1,000 more nits than the iMac.

 

[pdoherty]

The iPhone goes to 1200 nits peak what are you talking about.

It goes to only 800.

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The new iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro have on paper almost the same display characteristics, both being 6.06” OLED panels with 2532 x 1170 resolution, however they differ in their characteristics when looking at the peak maximum brightness achieved, with the regular iPhone 12 model peaking at 625 nits and the 12 Pro peaking at 800 nits.

 

[whiteonline]

I wish Canon and Epson would do iOS apps (drivers) so I could produce color-critical prints on their professional printer lines.

 

[danny1305]

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I said most, not all. But congrats on finding one example lol. Again, nothing impressive...humble yourself

 

[pdoherty]

Yes, improving iPadOS is the way, though it’s difficult and will need some time.

They’ve had years already. You don’t get to restart the development clock every time someone mentions running OS X on an iPad is possible.

 

[JPack]

It uses the same chip as the new iMac, but they made a point in the new iMac video of showing that it still needs cooling fans. So that pretty heavily implies that the M1 in the iPad is either under-clocked relative to other devices using it, or that its performance will be bursty rather than continuous due to heat.

iPad Pro has no heatsink and we've seen A14 throttle in the iPhone.

It's strange, but that $0.50 piece of aluminum is the main limiter of performance.

 

[Zackmd1]

Awesome to see, now they just need to allow for a dual boot option - WWDC maybe?

IMO it really doesn’t need MacOS. They just need to do two simple things to iPadOS....

1. An actual fully developed file system and external drive management solution. You have the files app, just update it with a full file system where apps can actually see documents from other apps. Also having the ability to properly manage external drives like formatting and so on would be extremely useful.

2. Allow M1 equipped iPads to run MacOS apps just like they allow iPad apps to run on M1 macs. Rosetta would be nice but probably would never happen...

Do those two things and I think iPadOS would be everything the iPad Pro would need to be a true replacement for the Mac without actually running MacOS.

 

[theotherphil]

From a purely commercial point of view you are obviously correct, and this is probably the line Apple will take for the foreseeable future.

From a technical point of view the new iPad Pro can run MacOS as well as any other M1 powered Mac.

I think with M1 and 8-16Gb RAM, developers will be targeting the iPad Pro and Mac line simultaneously within X-Code. I doubt that there’ll be any reason to run MacOS when the Apps will have parity.

 

[pdoherty]

Why are people in this thread suggesting that Mac OS needs to run in virtualization? The fact the iPad will have the exact same CPU means there’s no virtualization required.

 

[theotherphil]

iPad Pro has no heatsink and we've seen A14 throttle in the iPhone.

It's strange, but that $0.50 piece of aluminum is the main limiter of performance.

The CPU will likely come into contact with the case with some thermal tape, in effect becoming one giant heatsink. A YouTuber did the same with an AS MacBook Air and it performed better than the AS MacBook Pro with active cooling.

 

[Wando64]

This is really tempting. I have a 2-year-old vanilla iPad that I don't use much, mainly because there isn't a lot I can do with it. But these new models look much more useful. I'm surprised they didn't announce that Mac apps could run on it. There doesn't seem to be anything preventing that now, especially with a connected keyboard and trackpad.

All of the software they showed in the presentation run perfectly well on the previous generation (including the 2018 pro).
There isn’t much that you cannot do with an iPad. Notably for me, the only reason I keep a Mac as well is for Logic Pro.
My 2018 iPad with Lumafusion is considerably more powerful than my 2015 i7 MBP for video editing.