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Apple Introduces “Next Generation MacBook Pro” with 15.4″ Retina Display, Starts at $2199

BornAgainMac said:
I wonder if this is Apple's way to say that they don't like to sell desktops. Mac Mini, Mac Pro, iMac.
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What difference would it make? Even if you got a desktop from Apple you'd still get a worthless video card, either an ATI 5770 in a $3,000 'Pro' computer (i use the term pro loosely) or an bigger joke, a Mobile graphics card slapped into an iMac.

Youre better off just using a laptop as its at least portable.
 
Loving the new Retina MacBook Pro, except I would really love to see an option for a anti-glare (matte) display.

One of the key reasons I picked a MacBook Pro from other notebooks was because it was one of the few notebooks that offered a anti-glare display.

I use my notebook on the road a lot, and having a glossy display distracts me from the task at hand.

I have submitted a feature request via their feedback page. I hope they will offer this option soon.

Once they do, I am buying one straight away.
 
PBF said:
Don't they have only a 14-day return policy?
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Yeah, but your only a day out. I would talk to the manager and express how upset your are that a new version came out in less than 30 days. I've done it before at 16 days and I was able to convince the manager to let me upgrade to their latest model.
 
jonnysods said:
I was kind of hoping for an SSD/HDD combo so I could have a bit more space without selling my soul. I need around 600gb of space at the best of times on my MBP.
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Get the 2.6 ghz non-retina with a 256 SSD (OS, applications) and replace the optical bay yourself with + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD.

Haven't watched the keynote yet for the design difference. First glance though, the price premium for the retina + SLOWER processor is one thing, but the lack of upgradability/BTO options is just ridiculous.
 
GeneralSpecial said:
what the heck? The iMac hasn't been updated in over a year, better processors are available, etc. Has Apple forgotten that developers depend on a desktop development environment?
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Please tell us why as a developers you need à desktop?
You do know that Xcode run on a laptop do you?
 
I've been waiting for an optical drive-less (I've never used the ODD in a laptop, ever. Not even with Windows) MBP with high-res screen for ages so I am definitely getting one.

Now, question is. Who wants to buy my late-2008 15-inch MBP which has been fully loaded. 2.53GHz C2D, 8GB RAM (yes it runs 8GB fine, despite what Apple said in 2008), 512GB Crucial M4 SSD, OSX Lion etc... Also has a new 6 month old MagSafe Adapter and battery (only had 98 cycles). Fully working and great condition (apart from a slight scratch to the lid near the base). Cmon, who wants it? ;)
 
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thefunkymunky said:
I've been waiting for an optical drive-less (I've never used the ODD in a laptop, ever. Not even with Windows) MBP with high-res screen for ages so I am definitely getting one.

Now, question is. Who wants to buy my late-2008 15-inch MBP which has been fully loaded. 2.53GHz C2D, 8GB RAM (yes it runs 8GB fine, despite what Apple said in 2008), 512GB Crucial M4 SSD, OSX Lion etc... Fully working and great condition (apart from a slight scratch to the lid near the base). Cmon, who wants it? ;)
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I'll give you $500 for it.
 
wow, i can honestly say, my next new workstation might be an HP workstation. Can't justify these prices any longer. Now that apple has totally screwed over laptop users and most video professionals, buying a mac just doesn't make much financial sense any longer. Seems like the iMac is the performance leader of the apple line now.
 
mohsy90 said:
I've been holding off for two years hoping for a redesign and completely new MBP lineup. But really, the only new thing they gave us today was a new 15" MBP/Air with Retina. Everything else just got a speed bump.

Overall, i think this WWDC was a fail in terms of what was expected. No new iMacs or Mac Pros, just one stinkin 15" Retina MBP after 4 years of the unibody design and just basic gradual speed bumps.
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There is no way to drive a 2560x1440 display in a 13" right now.

At some point there will be an IGP that can drive those kind of resolutions natively, but not right now. Ever run a 13" MBP on a 2560x1440 external? It gets pretty choppy even moving windows around. I question how well the new 15" will work. It's going to be 2880x1800 on the desktop, but the second you launch into a game you are going to have to run something like 1440x900. A 650M is just not powerful enough. We'll probably never see a 13" MBP, because honestly, there isn't much of a point. At some point the 13" can drive the Retina display from an IGP. Then what is an MPB?

The only benefit of the 13" MBP over the 13" MBA now is a small CPU bump. That's it. The MBA now supports 8GB of RAM and 512MB of storage. It's the new mobile powerhouse. The MBA is now useful for things like video editing which were previously unavailable with only 4GB of RAM.

I don't know how you could objectively call it a "fail". Never in the company's history have they announced so much new stuff. It's mostly software, sure, but it's a developers conference.
 
Banyan Bruce said:
Enough said really.

There are a considerable number of folk out there who still make a living using a desktop. If the Ivybridge chip is now available to mainsteam PC makers, why hasn't it even appeared on the Apple radar yet ? :confused:

This Conference hasn't won any friends in this office and has just blown £10,000s of much needed iMac updates. Cash waiting just give us the tools to spend it on. What's on offer isn't really worth a jot to us desktop users.

I get it we're supposed to buy the Macbook pros and thunder bolt displays for .........£2800. Bargain !!! Not
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Probably to be updated separately. Perhaps maybe even a major update. The new Dell XPS 27 AIO shown last week blows away the iMac/any other AIO in terms of style and specs. Maybe Apple has something up its sleeve for it.
 
Chilla said:
Having this same exact problem, no matter which Macbook I try to put in my cart. Initially it shows a $100 credit down at the bottom, but once I plug in my shipping zip code the credit disappears, an error message appears at the top, and it won't let me make the purchase. I tried this on IE, Firefox, Chrome, and Safari and on two different computers. The error message says to contact the 800 number, so I've been sitting here on the phone for the last half hour waiting to get through.
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In case anybody else runs into this problem I've discovered a workaround. If you check out from the main page you'll get through. It's only when you try to check out through the cart where you receive problems. On the first page it'll appear as if you do not receive the $100 credit for the gift card, but it does get applied on the second page.
 
Xeperu said:
edit: on that note, I find the 600$ premium for the retina display and the 512gb SSD totally justifiable and good value for money.
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....especially given that they want about the same again for the bump from 512GB SSD to 768GB SSD. That's not so surprising (768GB is a hell of a lot of flash, and the highest density chips always cost the most) but what ticks me off is that the cheaper 2.3GHz model doesn't seem to have any BTO options for a larger SSD... WTF? Not everybody needs that extra .3GHz of CPU but 256GB of non-upgradable storage is not a happy place.

Macboy Pro said:
Apple didn't mention the Mac Pro because it is simply a bump that is overdue. I suspect the Mac Pro and 17" Macbook Pro is on its way out. Apple is no longer interested in the professional markets.
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The 17" MBP has left the building - it's gone from the store.

If Apple aren't interested in the professional market that's probably because the professional markets aren't interested in them in sufficient numbers. Its always going to be a shrinking pool - it was already a shrinking pool when Jobs returned to Apple, and if he hadn't pushed into the consumer market, Apple would be history. Yes, there are some Pros for whom only a cheese-grater cuts the mustard, but more and more will be satisfied by the increasing power and increasing expandability (via USB3 and Thunderbolt) of laptops and SFF system. Others will be tempted by cheap, commodity PC hardware that lets them build super-systems to order, or more exotic things like big boxes full of GPUs.
 
Anonymouslives said:
Man, I want one of the new retina MBP's, but I'm not sure. I'm still underwhelmed by my iPad 3, in comparison to the iPad 2, even though is has a "retina" display. I've hardly noticed anything with it ( in terms of the screen) and to make matters more complicated, I have a cinema display, 27" that has the mini display port, which the new MBP doesn't have, so don't know what I'd use to connect it.

I could get 1500-1700 for my current MBP, but I'm not sure I want to spend the 500-700 plus tax for a retina display, I'll never even notice any difference with.
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You can still plug up your 27" cinema display. The mini display port plugs into the thunderbolt port. But you will need one of these: http://store.apple.com/us_edu_5004711/product/MD504ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3Ng
 
hazmatzak said:
There's no need. In HiDPI mode, the UI elements are the same resulting size, except everything is sharper (doubled). The only difference is with photo and video, and those apps almost always have pixel doubling/zooming on their own.
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I get that, but ...

hazmatzak said:
When emulating the other resolutions, you probably won't get HiDPI, but rather it will act the old way, and then just scale the resulting pixels.
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This is what I'm referring to. I don't see how 1920x1200 or 1680x1050 scale cleanly to 2880x1800, but 1440x900 does. It's just a clean factor of 4 (X2 horizontal, X2 vertical). Using any flat panel display in those rare occassions I have turned the resolution down from it's native resolution (for curiosity more than anything) it does NOT look sharp. Based on that, I was thinking that offering a 1440x900 options would make sense because it should look as sharp as any native 1440x900 display does since it's a clean factor of 4 pixel doubling.
 
wikus said:
So fair criticism to Apple for completely FAILING at thunderbolts execution.
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How is it Apple's fault for not making thunderbolt peripherals? Surely it's Intel's failing for not getting the ports onto PC's so there'd be more incentive for peripheral manufacturers.
 
Mac Pro

ayala421 said:
No iMac :(
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And no Mac Pro. :mad: The "update" to the Mac Pro was to delete the 8-core model. No Thunderbolt, no USB 3, still with the 2.5 year old processors.

I do not want a laptop. I need a desktop machine - a laptop isn't a substitute for a server/workstation for many reasons. Apple seems like they are 100% consumer based now, and I guess they expect us to write software on laptops, and process 4K video on laptops, etc.

I really fscking hate Windows, but the message from Apple seems pretty clear - you want to do serious work, get a PC.
 
mohsy90 said:
Yeah i understand that. But considering it's been 4-years since the unibody design. And everyone was expecting a new mac line up.....All they gave us was one 15" Retina MBP.

In terms of hardware....it was a FAIL.

But im definitely looking forward to Mountain Lion and iOS 6.
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Who is everybody? I wasn't expecting a totally new design in the MBP's at all. The unibody is pretty darn good, how much better can it be? Make it into a Dell? The only reason why the hardware failed is because there is no 17" MBP - I'm hoping when 3840x2400 panels become available that the 17" will be brought back.
 
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