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Apple Introduces “Next Generation MacBook Pro” with 15.4″ Retina Display, Starts at $2199

...and where is the iMac update ?

Enough said really.

There are a considerable number of folk out there who still make a living using a desktop. If the Ivybridge chip is now available to mainsteam PC makers, why hasn't it even appeared on the Apple radar yet ? :confused:

This Conference hasn't won any friends in this office and has just blown £10,000s of much needed iMac updates. Cash waiting just give us the tools to spend it on. What's on offer isn't really worth a jot to us desktop users.

I get it we're supposed to buy the Macbook pros and thunder bolt displays for .........£2800. Bargain !!! Not
 
Ah well... Pros and Pros

So.. the Mac Pro got a "slient" upgrade on the Apple Store... and agreed, SHO NUFF' ain't worthy of a Keynote mention. Just a speed bump and some config shifts. No more Quad Core.

But I was forced into a new Mac Pro Quad-core back in November - thankyouverymuch, Adobe. Was trying to put off to the update, but that's a while separate rant. So I guess I now own one of the last 2.4 Ghz Quad Cores built. But this upgrade hardly temps me to even argue a trade-in..... 0.2 GHz more and two more cores (well four) ain't worth the shouting. But I would have sworn Apple would have at least wanted to get Thunderbolt, eSATA, USB 3 on the pros. But we professional users are still second-class citizens at Apple. The "Truck Drivers" of the Computing world. No ferarri's or Lexus's for the likes of us. 10-4 good buddy...

Perhaps the Sandy Bridge E5-Series chips came out too late- just this past Spring - for Apple to get new Pros into production. One of the ongoing questions is that since on the iMacs and MacBooks, Thunderbolt carries Data AND Video in one port. But on the pro side, users will want third party display cards, use a spectrum of pro displays, broadcast monitors and the like with legacy connectors, and TB is a motherboard level protocol. So how Apple plans to solve that issue may also keep the work in the labs yet. *sigh* We'll see... or not.

As for the new MPB Retina, gorram shiny wee beast, and no optical drive, no Firewire, no Ethernet. Actually, saw that coming. Apple is absolutely out of the software in boxes biz. They're also done with optical media. Adapter time, and thank you for mention you're on that, Apple. But they obviously feel that the consumer and prosumer market is done with Ethernet and FW. I still remember the shouting when the first iMac did away with floppy disks. However, the inclusion of an HDMI port is interesting....

Perhaps the Pro will get some love, and new tech when the iMac gets it's next bump... but who knows. But with an "Official" update on the Apple Store on the books... Apple can put off for another year or more, as more hihe-end users bail - or are dragged of kicking and screaming - for Windows and Linux workstations.
 
ggibson913 said:
I know I am going to be slapped down for this. It is a nice laptop, the problem is the days of my payin anything close to $2,000 for a laptop are decidedly over. Will be sticking with my current or one generation behind now 13 inch MacBook pro with external monitor.
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No matter how cool the Retina MBP looks I too will most likely not spend over $2K. Refurb. here I come.

I do have to say that it is kind of nice that Apple had two price points for the Retina MBP. Though I don't think $600 more just for a small bump in GHz is worth it. Though you do get an extra 256GB of flash storage. But still that's a lot of money.
 
Icy1007 said:
Because Apple does want you to have those options. If you can't afford the Retina display then you can buy the cheaper model with the current body design. The specs are roughly the same.

Also the Geforce GT 650M is by no means "State of the Art".
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Buy the lower model with 256gb hard drive? I doubt it...
 
Clown Boy said:
American-centric cr*p. Boring and nothing exciting. Man I wish be could bring Steve back to life.
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-local search for more locations
-Siri language support for Chinese, French Canadian, Spanish, etc.
-Chinese Internet service support (e.g. Baidu)
-Expanding international retail presence
-App Store available in 152 countries

Sorry, how is this American-centric? :confused:
 
Retina display q's

Retina display is cool and all, but what about the 'display' resolution?? And i'm talking about desktop real estate. Obviously, 2880 x 1800 will not be displayed natively on a 15" (if you get what i mean). Will it be stuck to the equivelent real of a 1440 x 900 (72dpi)??? i hope not.

Last year, I was planning to buy the 17" macbook pro because of the 1920x1200 real estate.

Can someone please clear up? thanks.
 
Mr_Ed said:
Am I the only one thinks emulating 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 resolution on a 2880x1800 native display won't look as clean as 1440x900? I get the appeal of the extra pixels if for some reason you don't want to run at 2880x1800, but wouldn't 1440x900 be a logical choice as well?
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There's no need. In HiDPI mode, the UI elements are the same resulting size, except everything is sharper (doubled). The only difference is with photo and video, and those apps almost always have pixel doubling/zooming on their own.

When emulating the other resolutions, you probably won't get HiDPI, but rather it will act the old way, and then just scale the resulting pixels.
 
wikus said:
Thats also because thats the way a lot of people are. Yet, today... tim cook said Apple is changing the world. Sounds as arrogant and ignorant as Steve Jobs.
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I totally agree. The A in Apple has always been arrogance. I absolutely love Apple products but just cringe when you hear these jokers talk. They need to innovate some humbleness.


If Apple keeps the current Macbook Pro upgradeable systems without the retina, the addition of the non-upgradeable systems is not really an issue but more of another product line. If they are planning to convert to all proprietary, this will change their user base and Bill Gates will be drooling.
 
Uplift said:
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Getting a similiar thing in the US
 
Macboy Pro said:
I totally agree. The A in Apple has always been arrogance. I absolutely love Apple products but just cringe when you hear these jokers talk. They need to innovate some humbleness.
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When any competitor comes close to matching their products, they might consider that.
 
Man, I want one of the new retina MBP's, but I'm not sure. I'm still underwhelmed by my iPad 3, in comparison to the iPad 2, even though is has a "retina" display. I've hardly noticed anything with it ( in terms of the screen) and to make matters more complicated, I have a cinema display, 27" that has the mini display port, which the new MBP doesn't have, so don't know what I'd use to connect it.

I could get 1500-1700 for my current MBP, but I'm not sure I want to spend the 500-700 plus tax for a retina display, I'll never even notice any difference with.
 
BornAgainMac said:
I wonder if this is Apple's way to say that they don't like to sell desktops. Mac Mini, Mac Pro, iMac.
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The iMac and Mac Mini are usually updated separately from the MB/MacAir updates.

My guess is you see iMac/MacMini updates in either July or August before school starts.
 
daneoni said:
$2799
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You may still wish to upgrade to 16GB (if the RAM is not user upgradable like the Air - that is...) so thats about 3K and add another 500 bucks for 768 flash storage. :)

The Retina MBP looks really good in paper. I hope it performs just as well in the real world. Can't wait for hands on reviews.
 
stukick said:
Price seems high...no?
They put the retina display in the iPad, and the price stayed the same.
I'll pass.
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Keep in mind the new model is SSD with discrete graphics only, both optional upgrades on the old Macbook Pro line. Look what happens to the price of the old MacBook Pro 15" when you add discrete graphics and an SSD of the same size, and you'll see the price of the new Macbook Pro is actually cheaper! And you get retina display! Of course if you prefer cheap traditional hard drives over SSDs you can stick with the original line. I thought that the original line was very over-priced at 15" and discrete graphics even without the SSD, and obscenely so with it. This new model actually seems reasonably priced for what you get, and will probably be my next computer. The only thing I don't like is the non-upgradable memory (at least I think it is non-upgradable). I think 8gb will be enough for a few years going forward for what I do, but who knows. I wonder how much they will gouge for the 16gb memory upgrade...
 
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boyd1955 said:
A fraction slimmer ... So what ... PATHETIC and hardly noticable
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I agree 1000% percent. It's too bad all the fanboys on here show their utter contempt and ignorance by downvoting your post because you're dead-on the money. They gave away SO MUCH for SO LITTLE on this thing. WTF is the point in making something smaller and more portable if you have to carry around a bag of expensive dongles and hubs to make it work with real equipment? And after your 7 hours are up, better find an AC outlet because you can't just throw another battery into the thing.

There aren't Thunderbolt Internet connections in hotels! There are Ethernet ones! A lousy 2 USB ports? That means you'll need a HUB to connect anything more than a full sized keyboard and mouse to the thing. And wait until you see how much $$$ they want for a Thunderbolt adapter to get those ports back on the machine (as if the darn thing didn't cost enough as it is, priced right up there at near Mac Pro prices to START). 802.11AC is pretty much out the door, but they'll save that for NeXT YEAR's model (that is why Jobs called his company NeXT, right??? :p ).

Retool apps for higher resolutions? WTF? I thought most Apps for the Mac already expected the possibility of very large high resolution monitors (this is the high resolution without the largeness, so get out your magnifying glasses, folks). I think they mean they need to magnify things at higher resolutions...you know that whole resolution independence thing they started in Tiger, but well...um...never bothered to finish because they had better things to do than work on professional computer features...like phone'n'stuff. :confused:

Apple is quickly becoming a three product company. Pretty soon all you will
be able to buy is an iPhone, an iPad or an iBook-Not-So-Pro. All your other options will be gone. The Mac Pro update is a freaking JOKE (not even USB3, let alone Thunderbolt or anything else new). The push for "Retina Everything" will leave all the other offerings behind including older Macs in very short order. Within 3-4 years, they'll expect you to own a Retina display PERIOD or you won't be able to run the OS. Mark my words. They love to PUSH you into buying new hardware constantly. It's the Apple thing to do.
 
Anonymouslives said:
Man, I want one of the new retina MBP's, but I'm not sure. I'm still underwhelmed by my iPad 3, in comparison to the iPad 2, even though is has a "retina" display. I've hardly noticed anything with it ( in terms of the screen) and to make matters more complicated, I have a cinema display, 27" that has the mini display port, which the new MBP doesn't have, so don't know what I'd use to connect it.

I could get 1500-1700 for my current MBP, but I'm not sure I want to spend the 500-700 plus tax for a retina display, I'll never even notice any difference with.
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If you used optimized games/apps for retina, you can see the difference...
 
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