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But when I was at apple store they still have iLife and iWorks if you want to buy it ?

And how do you install the OS or do a recovery when the OS is mess up you cannot boot into OS thus no internet.

USB stick with OSX on
 
But when I was at apple store they still have iLife and iWorks if you want to buy it ?

And how do you install the OS or do a recovery when the OS is mess up you cannot boot into OS thus no internet.

They still have it for older machines that can't use the App store.

If you hold down Command-R when starting, it goes into recovery mode. Read full details here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
 
Resale value

I believe there will be more models soon enough for me (and Others)to want to upgrade quickly, ie. 13" Retina with more GB graphics in hopes that will help with multiple monitors.

So which of the current model options will have the highest resale value by that time(whenever that might be).

Feel free to tell me if my logic is flawed.
 
At this point I'm starting to wonder if you're a troll, or if you're really this uninformed.

Here is a picture of my screen at its native resolution, and another of my screen at a lower resolution. In both cases these are what I see filling up the entire 15 inches of my display. At the lower resolution everything is MUCH bigger in a way that can't be changed, and it makes it so that there is MUCH less usable area. Until Apple adds resolution independence into OS X, this will always be true. It's just basic arithmetic.

Sigh. this is hard work.

You don't need to change the resolution of the screen. You can change the size of the things on the desktop and Zoom them independently. I can edit 2 word documents at once on a high resolution screen rather than 1 on a lower res screen. Its not difficult.

Also Apple is making the res BIGGER so you get MORE screen real estate!
 
USB stick with OSX on

Okay so the OS is on USB stick? If one buy new mac you get OS on USB stick?

hey still have it for older machines that can't use the App store.

If you hold down Command-R when starting, it goes into recovery mode. Read full details here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718

Is that a special partition on the hard-drive if the OS will not boot up or work properly .
 
But when I was at apple store they still have iLife and iWorks if you want to buy it ?

And how do you install the OS or do a recovery when the OS is mess up you cannot boot into OS thus no internet.

All the new Mac Notebooks have a firmware based internet recovery system, which means even if your hard disk gets corrupted, you can download disk tools via the internet to fix your hard disk and reinstall OS X.
 
Okay so the OS is on USB stick? If one buy new mac you get OS on USB stick?



Is that a special partition on the hard-drive if the OS will not boot up or work properly .

Yes it comes on a usb stick. and you can do recovery many ways now. no one uses recovery disks any more. Heck they used to be on floppy
 
You can change the size of the things on the desktop and Zoom them independently.

NO, YOU CAN'T!!! I just demonstrated how all the on screen objects change size when you're using a display that's at a different resolution. But I will agree with you on one thing - this discussion is ridiculous. Trying to explain things to you feels like talking to a brick wall.
 
OMG I am so exited.

I ordered the high end one, with 16 gigs of ram and 2 Displays.
I'll sell my iMac.

So yeah, 2 Thunderbolt Displays and a retina MacBook Pro.
$5,000 well spent! :))

OMG!:D
 
The battery life is the same across all the 15" MBP's

Like the 'new' iPad, it required a huge leap in battery size to maintain 10 hours of battery life because of the retina display. It's almost certain that the new MBP's have significantly better batteries to power the amazing new display.

It's just a shame that you can't BTO one of the new MBP's without the retina display because the increase in battery life would be substantial.

While you're technically correct in terms of battery life being the same across the line, the new MBP's undoubtedly have much better (and probably larger) batteries.
 
no, you can't!!! I just demonstrated how all the on screen objects change size when you're using a display that's at a different resolution. But i will agree with you on one thing - this discussion is ridiculous. Trying to explain things to you feels like talking to a brick wall.

did you not listen to apple when they explained how osx handles resolution. Omg.

At 2880x1800 things would be microscopic wouldnt they?

Only on a mac forum would this be happening
 
Obviously you don't fly ANYWHERE? Why would I buy a DVD to use only on my laptop when I already own the Blu-Ray for home use? Wouldn't it be great to take the movie with me?

Yes it certainly would be *great* I can't think of anything more exciting than after watching a high def blu ray at home on a big screen to be able to take it on a plane and watch it again on a laptop.

Anyway you could always do a hi res rip for the lappy if you're desperate.
 
no, you can't!!! I just demonstrated how all the on screen objects change size when you're using a display that's at a different resolution. But i will agree with you on one thing - this discussion is ridiculous. Trying to explain things to you feels like talking to a brick wall.

press cmd -/+ and see for yourself
 
Also Apple is making the res BIGGER so you get MORE screen real estate!

no.

as i understand it, with the retina display, there are 4x the total pixels so everything is simply magnified 4x. this gives a "clearer" image but no extra usable desktop space
 
no.

As i understand it, with the retina display, there are 4x the total pixels so everything is simply magnified 4x. This gives a "clearer" image but no extra usable desktop space

apart from the fact you can zoom in and out everything in osx
 
I can edit 2 word documents at once on a high resolution screen rather than 1 on a lower res screen. Its not difficult.

Also Apple is making the res BIGGER so you get MORE screen real estate!

I think I see what you're not understanding now. The screen resolution isn't going to *functionally* higher, it's going to be functionally *lower*, because the onscreen elements are all going to be pixel doubled. But it's a pixel doubling of a relatively low original screen resolution. So even though the screen pixel resolution is 2880 x 1800, the *effective* *functional* resolution will only be 1440 x 900.
 
OMG I am so exited.

I ordered the high end one, with 16 gigs of ram and 2 Displays.
I'll sell my iMac.

So yeah, 2 Thunderbolt Displays and a retina MacBook Pro.
$5,000 well spent! :))

OMG!:D

Sorry mate but what a waste of dosh, you wait till you hear the noise off that thing..
Give me a "proper" mac Pro any day with silent operation and 2 displays..think of the cables poking out the side of that thing on your desk!! I know my 17" Macbook Pro is the same now and I bets it's a lot quieter than this new lot of CPU's, dam they run very hot.
 
did you not listen to apple when they explained how osx handles resolution. Omg.

At 2880x1800 things would be microscopic wouldnt they?

Only on a mac forum would this be happening


I didn't get to watch the keynote yet, but what about the equivelent 'display' resolution real estate? Are we stuck with the equivelent of a 1440 x 900 (72dpi) real estate space? I really hope not.
 
Have you seen one in person b/c in the keynote they said it's something like 73% less reflective than the screen on the non-Retina MBP.

The macrumors front page has a video of Engadget's Tim Stevens booting up the new 'retina' display macbook. The glare and reflections are just as bad on it as they have ever been.

That reason alone is enough to pass on the new macbook. I dont care how great that screen is, even with IPS, if its got that miserable gloss finish im not even going to bother doing any work on it. Yes, WORK, because I'm not a generic user.
 
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well i'm not saying anything about app specific zoom. obviously in any webbrowser even in windows you can hit CTRL +/- to zoom

i have 2 web browsers side by side now and i can see 100% of each webpage. i could get three on here if i wanted to but my res won't allow my text to be legible.

but the new screen would make the text sharper and easier to see.

Also the dock can be resized there are tons of tweaks.
 
Really? Why? What replaced Blu-Ray?

1080P content from the iTunes store, 1080P capable AppleTV and large internal and external hard drives didn't replace Blu Ray, per se, they just made the investment in expensive Blu Ray content unnecessary.

While I have a Blu Ray player because it's apart of my home theater, it's not really used for anything because buying or down loading content online is so much cheaper than $35 to $50 Blu Ray discs.

The statement was in relation to the constant, though generally low level, claims that Apple has been hurting itself through not including BD players in their notebooks.

Not only is Blu Ray something Apple is never going to adopt, the whole concept of an ODD is outdated given that there are far better solutions for content delivery and storage available.

Blu Ray hasn't been replaced, it was just never really necessary.

I don't think that in 12 months from now you're going to see very many people lamenting the loss of optical disk drives, outside of manufacturers. Consumers will be too busy enjoying their retina displays and smaller, lighter, notebooks.
 
I couldn't give a flying toss what they did with the MacBook Pro, woopee a flashy screen and it's thinner oh that really helps me in my work!!! oh but I can ask Siri to message my wife , oh for the love of god..
Where is the new Mac Pro for the Pro users that have supported you all these years, we get a bumped up machine with a 2 year old graphics card, who in their right mind is going to buy that!!! WTF Apple your as bad as Samsung now ...as soon as Steve has gone you turn into a money grabbing corp that can't give a crap about it's consumers..

You do realize how small the number of Mac Pro users is compared to MacBook Pro and iMac, right? Not saying they should abandon it, but expecting them to put a lot of effort into maintaining it, doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. That and it seems reasonable to believe that the Mac Pro will go the way of the white MacBook in the near future.
 
You're only going to use a lot if you do video editing. Aren't desktops meant for that? Laptops had 80GB hard drives until a few years ago.

And even if you are editing video on your laptop, you should use an external hard drive. You're not supposed to edit video on your bootup disk.

Completely false.

Graphic designers and photographers will need all the space they can get. I would know, I do both. Throw in a personal music library and that hard drive will fill up rather quickly. My music library alone is 315gb large. The rest of my documents are another 300gb and thats taking into consideration that a lot of it has been moved to optical media for storage as well as all my movies living on another hard drive connected to a router acting as a server. So the 300gb of documents are my working files which are ESSENTIALS (stock photos, fonts, vector stocks, projects, portfolio, client files, etc. I have a client that I consistently do work for which their folder on my hard drive takes up 27gb).

I'm gonna flat out say it that these kind of assumptions and generalizations from the macrumors forum are OFFENSIVE to me as they contribute nothing but a personal outlook on what someONE may think what a collective MILLIONS should have. I'm sick of these comments on the forum speaking for the rest of the community without considering the uses or the workflow of other people.
 
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