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We've stripped it down to the bare minimum, put in a display that should be in every MacBook in the first place, and, oh, it's $700 more than the same spec'd MacBook Pro.

Apple - Yes, we can.

(Of course the matter here is that these will ship in about the same or more volume than the 17" MBA, but cost >$4000 rather than $2850 for a top-of-the-line model. I tip my hat, Mr. Cook.)
 
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Another disconcerting thing is the Retina screen is only equivalent to 1440x900 and not the 1680x1050 that i'm used to (Hi-Res AG screen). Yes things will be sharper/crisper but there'll also be less room overall compared to what i'm coming from.
 
90% of the games out there and 90% the software out there and office for mac , iWorks ,Final Cut Pro and Aperture ,Adobe Photoshop, Autodesk's AutoCAD, and Blizzard's Diablo III, star craft are at the apple store ??? I don't think so.
You can download iWorks, Office for Mac, AutoCAD, Diablo III, and StarCraft 2 from the Internet and from sources such as the Mac App Store. No CDs needed.
 
What do you mean? What store ?


MS office for mac , iWorks ,Final Cut Pro and Aperture ,Adobe Photoshop, Autodesk's AutoCAD, and Blizzard's Diablo III, star craft comes with CD that must be loated .If no CD drive how do you load it?

You can get the MS Office trial and activate it with your CD key. iWork, FCP and Aperture are all Mac App Store. I don't use Photoshop or AutoCAD so I don't know about those. Blizzard software all has downloaders available on battle.net for every game.

I have an iMac and almost never use my DVD drive unless I'm ripping an audio CD.
 
This has possibly been asked before, but too many pages to look through :eek:

Is the memory upgradable? It doesnt look like it in the pictures ive seen.

If not I'll actually have to consider paying apple tax for the upgrade since i will most likely regret it later if i'm stuck with 8 gigs.
 
90% of the games out there and 90% the software out there and office for mac , iWorks ,Final Cut Pro and Aperture ,Adobe Photoshop, Autodesk's AutoCAD, and Blizzard's Diablo III, star craft are at the apple store ??? I don't think so.

i was talking about the specs of the MBP.

You can get all those Apps on the MAC APP STORE!

Games from Steam or another digital distributor.

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This has possibly been asked before, but too many pages to look through :eek:

Is the memory upgradable? It doesnt look like it in the pictures ive seen.

If not I'll actually have to consider paying apple tax for the upgrade since i will most likely regret it later if i'm stuck with 8 gigs.

Stuck with 8GB? are you kidding. unless your seriously into using mega large files u won't need 16gb for years and years.
 
So:
1) the updated non retina 15" macbook pro still has the 8gb RAM limit, hasn't it?
2) is the 2.6 GHz quad core chip the same for both retina and non retina MBPs? Same speed and thermal Design power?
Thanks guys!
 
It is perhaps time to replace the self proclaimed "phenomenal" old geek with some fresh blood, at least to dance at the show. Even Stevo was already annoying on the scene. It is now phenomenal bs. Well, no one could expect from rich goofy geeks to put a little better screen on the 13, with better processors, and an empty bay for people to fill it as they like. Ehhh..what a bore.
 
Another disconcerting thing is the Retina screen is only equivalent to 1440x900 and not the 1680x1050 that i'm used to (Hi-Res AG screen). Yes things will be sharper/crisper but there'll also be less room overall compared to what i'm coming from.

Less room? Wtf.

Its a 15.4 inch screen.

You can get 2x 1440x900 webpages on the screen at the same time!!!! You can scale text to anything you like pretty much!
 
Why not incorporate the new vent-system on the slightly thicker Macbook Pros? Lowering the temps. there would be awesome.
 
Is it possible to upgrade new non-retina MBP from 8GB RAM to 16GB? There is no such option in the online store at all. But can I upgrade it to 16GB by myself with 3d party RAM?
 
i was talking about the specs of the MBP.

You can get all those Apps on the MAC APP STORE!

Games from Steam or another digital distributor.

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Stuck with 8GB? are you kidding. unless your seriously into using mega large files u won't need 16gb for years and years.


I don't know about the Mac world but most people that have PC get games or software that comes with CD that must be installed.

You claiming 90% of the software and 90% games are at the apple store?

I'm confused.
 
Why not incorporate the new vent-system on the slightly thicker Macbook Pros? Lowering the temps. there would be awesome.

The new CPU and GPU are way cooler than the last gen. they didn't need the thermal improvements. also wouldn't work with the layout internally
 
I feel like this is the start of the decline for Apple.

If I wanted 300 choices for a laptop I'd go buy a Dell or an HP. One thing I loved about Mac was the lack of decision making that simplicity offered. I know this sounds crazy, what consumer doesn't want to make decisions, but honestly I didn't want to know what makes a good laptop. I just want to get one that will work well and that I can depend on and enjoy. The macbook model in many ways was perfect - just choose the size. Now it's 11" Air vs 13" Air vs 13" MBP vs 15" MBP vs 17" MBP vs 15" next gen MBP. If they stop here, fine, that's complicated enough, but if they keep going it'll really wreck the biggest thing they have going for them: knowing what is best for the consumer even if the consumer doesn't know it. For instance, I wanted a desktop mac, and if given choice I would have picked something with more upgrade potential, but there is only the iMac that sacrifices upgrade potential for space. I'm really enjoying the low-impact design of the iMac. Wouldn't have taken advantage of that if Apple made 100 different iMacs. Its a strength for them.
 
I don't know about the Mac world but most people that have PC get games or software that comes with CD that must be installed.

You claiming 90% of the software and 90% games are at the apple store?

I'm confused.

No offence mate but i have been downloading and installing games on my PC on steam for about 4 years.

Google "Steam"

Also they havnt been on "CD" for like 10 years. we have been on DVD for ages.

All games can be bought digitally now, same with software.
 
Of the two 15" Retina Macbook Pros, why does the slightly faster one cost $600 more? That's a huge price increase for a slight bump in speed.

How is that justified?
 
I feel like this is the start of the decline for Apple.

If I wanted 300 choices for a laptop I'd go buy a Dell or an HP. One thing I loved about Mac was the lack of decision making that simplicity offered. I know this sounds crazy, what consumer doesn't want to make decisions, but honestly I didn't want to know what makes a good laptop. I just want to get one that will work well and that I can depend on and enjoy. The macbook model in many ways was perfect - just choose the size. Now it's 11" Air vs 13" Air vs 13" MBP vs 15" MBP vs 17" MBP vs 15" next gen MBP. If they stop here, fine, that's complicated enough, but if they keep going it'll really wreck the biggest thing they have going for them: knowing what is best for the consumer even if the consumer doesn't know it. For instance, I wanted a desktop mac, and if given choice I would have picked something with more upgrade potential, but there is only the iMac that sacrifices upgrade potential for space. I'm really enjoying the low-impact design of the iMac. Wouldn't have taken advantage of that if Apple made 100 different iMacs. Its a strength for them.

Only on a mac forum do you get a post like this.

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Of the two 15" Retina Macbook Pros, why does the slightly faster one cost $600 more? That's a huge price increase for a slight bump in speed.

How is that justified?

Bigger SSD 2x as big
 
... And those are studio quality lights hanging right overhead... it'll be fine in your living room or on your patio.

I just traded my car in cus i just realised its got glossy paint on the bonnet and that means i can't drive it in the sun cus i won't be able to see the road from the glare.
 
Nice!! but... no dvd drive?? Am I the only one who burns cd/dvd's and plays dvd's?? I have to figure out if I can 'work' without a dvd drive.... any ideas? Help me make my choise :) Buy the old, heaviest macbook pro or the new lighter one... Price is the same. Damn I want the new one just for the reason that it's a new one hehe. Help!
 
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