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Will this let me store software licenses? If not, what would be a solution (not 1Password) for managing software licenses / keys that lets me keep a local library and back it up myself?
If you can store notes in it it'll let you store software licenses just like every other password app. As a side note, I hope you're also saving those licenses to a Word doc or Excel spreadsheet. You're 1 **** up away from losing them if you don't have them stored in multiple places.
 
Maybe it has improved, but it looked and felt like an archaic piece of software and the browser integration was almost nonexistent.
I agree. Bitwardens UI in the Apple ecosystem is very ugly. They have new apps in the works though for iOS and Mac which will be better integrated and look better as well.
 
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Kind of looks like a major downgrade from the old macOS keychain application…

I mean it is an upgrade from what was shown in the “passwords” section of Safari, but still lacking macOS keychain functionality.

Maybe they will keep both applications on the Mac?
 
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Using a password manager is better than not using one, but for me this is putting too many eggs in one basket. Your Apple ID is already extremely sensitive and allows access to many aspects of your life. I'd prefer to keep my password manager independent of Apple and behind its own two-factor authentication.
 
I hope the passwords will work on Firefox for Windows. That's the main thing I need to switch from Bitwarden.
Unless they are going to update iCloud for Windows, it will not. iCloud Passwords currently only works in Chromium browsers. On top of that it's janky. In our personal lives we primarily use Apple devices and computers (apart from a Windows machine for gaming), but both of our workplaces are solidly Windows environments. Unless Apple gets serious about making this cross-platform, 1Password is in no danger--we'll be keeping our sub barring some surprise advances there.
 
And then Apple suddenly no longer wants a Windows app, like Safari back then, and you're left looking stupid again.
 
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This appears to BE 1 password....So they got bought or they got ripped off?
The alternative explanation here is that all efficient solutions are essentially the same—e.g., why wheels are round—and 1Password wasn't bringing anything of value that couldn't be easily replicated by a summer intern.
 
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I moved from 1Password to the Passwords section in settings and secure Notes about 6 months ago and have never looked back.
  • You can get site passwords including OTP into Passwords by simply exporting from 1Password and then importing into Passwords
  • Autofill already works across all browsers (though not as seamlessly as Safari) by right clicking in the form field and selecting AutoFill then Passwords...
  • OTP are supported and autofilled for you
  • PassKeys are supported
  • Any general items (images, notes, etc) I store in the Notes app as secure notes.
 
Using a password manager is better than not using one, but for me this is putting too many eggs in one basket. Your Apple ID is already extremely sensitive and allows access to many aspects of your life. I'd prefer to keep my password manager independent of Apple and behind its own two-factor authentication.

I completely agree with you.

Apple ID is the key link in your interaction with the Apple ecosystem. This makes it a weak spot. If your Apple ID is somehow comprised, it is "game over."

That's why I would never use the new Passwords app (in its current form).

Personally, I think the best approach (currently) to security is 2FA, using a specialized hardware token.


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That's not nice! God knows how many people might lose their job. Enough with the PACMAN mindset.
My concern is that Apple Sherlocking this one will cause subscriptions to go down, and 1P will have no choice but to raise the price on the rest of us.

I've been using 1P for years. I don't really get the hate for it, other than that people are cheap. It's a quality product with above average support. And given the world we live in, a high-quality secure password manager is one of the few things I don't mind paying for.
 
Using a password manager is better than not using one, but for me this is putting too many eggs in one basket. Your Apple ID is already extremely sensitive and allows access to many aspects of your life. I'd prefer to keep my password manager independent of Apple and behind its own two-factor authentication.
yeah lol. they crack your Apple account, they're getting car keys, apple wallets, passwords, photos, your favorite weird music and video tastes. health data. emails. scary stuff.

if I were apple I would force people to use Security Keys to enable this new Password.app. Sure my idea would be stopped in its tracts, but at that point the accounts become irresistible.
 
My concern is that Apple Sherlocking this one will cause subscriptions to go down, and 1P will have no choice but to raise the price on the rest of us.

I've been using 1P for years. I don't really get the hate for it, other than that people are cheap. It's a quality product with above average support. And given the world we live in, a high-quality secure password manager is one of the few things I don't mind paying for.

The transition to Electron was a hard pill to swallow…
That is when I jumped ship on 1Password.

(I still like/support them. I just no longer use them/am willing to pay for them.)
 
Bye bye 1-Password.
My initial thought when seeing this was, will we be able to import our current 1Password Vaults into the Passwords app. If not, entering all passwords, links, icons, and other information from scratch will be a tedious task.
 
The transition to Electron was a hard pill to swallow…
That is when I jumped ship on 1Password.

(I still like/support them. I just no longer use them/am willing to pay for them.)
I get that. I know how bad some Electron apps are. MS Teams is notoriously awful. At least the "classic" Teams always was. Not sure if the "new" Teams for macOS is better now.

I stuck with 1P through it, though. And to be completely honest...I can't tell the difference from the old app.

I'm not sure if Electron has just gotten better over the years, or maybe they did some optimization that other developers don't, but you can't really tell if you didn't know. It still feels just like a native macOS app to me.
 
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I moved from 1Password to the Passwords section in settings and secure Notes about 6 months ago and have never looked back.
  • You can get site passwords including OTP into Passwords by simply exporting from 1Password and then importing into Passwords
  • Autofill already works across all browsers (though not as seamlessly as Safari) by right clicking in the form field and selecting AutoFill then Passwords...
  • OTP are supported and autofilled for you
  • PassKeys are supported
  • Any general items (images, notes, etc) I store in the Notes app as secure notes.

What about Watchtower things like easily see if you've used the same password multiple times, easily see items that have bad security, see items where the website has been hacked, see which items can be upgraded to add 2FA or Passkeys, etc?

Or how about organizing things into multiple vaults?

Item history?

Archived items?

Apple Passwords seem like a good start and definitely great for the general public, but to me I wouldn't want to lose those things I listed above, plus I don't want to put all my eggs in the same basket (with Apple, that is). Seems like a really bad thing to do, security wise.
 
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