Absolutely agree on the UI interface!
Using these phone/tablet ports on a computer makes me feel like I am using a program written for a two-year old.
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Apple Introduces Standalone 'Passwords' App
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Absolutely agree on the UI interface!
Using these phone/tablet ports on a computer makes me feel like I am using a program written for a two-year old.
“Apple” and “great software design”… Exited the building years ago, unfortunately
Important question. Does this new password app forcibly sync to the cloud or do you have an option to keep ALL passwords on a device ONLY?
Wonder what happens if you decide to back to iOS 17 from this beta. I can see this potentially causing some issues
This is great - particularly for people who aren't super familiar with password management. Making it easier to do so is great. Does this handle 2FA? That would be a nice addition.
I'm still sticking with Bitwarden but this is a welcome change.
I'm still sticking with Bitwarden but this is a welcome change.
You can already import passwords via CSV file import in Settings or Safari (which you can generate with 1Password).
Passwords on Sonoma already has a Watchtower type thing. Passwords you've created for sites that support OTP have the option to set one up if you haven't already done so. As for vaults, you can create shared groups that might offer similar functionality. Just create a group and don't share it with anyone if you don't want to. It doesn't appear you can archive items or view history.
I'm not saying Passwords will be for everyone but was simply highlighting that a lot of the features people are saying are dealbreakers are actually already in the existing Passwords settings in Sonoma, never mind this new Passwords app. Combined with secure notes in the Notes app with get you a good deal of the functionality of something like 1Password and, for me, was all the functionality I needed.
Yeah someone please let us know about this one. I genuinely think I’ll move from 1pwd to save money if this works the same.
even on idevices, the design is not optimal. iOS 1-6 used to be so information dense. Now that's thrown out of the window and information density is getting worse by the year. That is the part I dislike about Android, and Apple is moving closer to them on this front.
If they add in a secure notes feature and allow a separate password (not your Lock Screen password) I am sold. Well done Apple!
While the password app looks good. There are still things that 1Password can do, that the password app cannot. Storing credit card details, secure notes, software licenses. It will be interesting to see if Apple adds these features to their password app over time.
If I could get the features I have now with 1Password with Apple's password app, then it would be tempting for me to cancel my yearly subscription with 1Password. Saying that though it only costs £30.99 for the year so it's not exactly expensive.
Anyway my subscription is due early July, so I will see how Apple's password app has matured by this time next year and see if I want to cancel 1Password.
If I could get the features I have now with 1Password with Apple's password app, then it would be tempting for me to cancel my yearly subscription with 1Password. Saying that though it only costs £30.99 for the year so it's not exactly expensive.
Anyway my subscription is due early July, so I will see how Apple's password app has matured by this time next year and see if I want to cancel 1Password.
1password came out, when, 2005? Apple is 19 years late to the party. 1Password user for life here.
Any word on Family Sharing of passwords? One of the main things that's kept me on 1Password has been the ease with which I can run a shared password vault with family -- while each person also gets their own private vaults. If Apple is folding this into Family Sharing, would make it possible to use as a replacement.
I think it’s because they used to sell a standalone version that did not have cloud sync, and people used to use Dropbox to sync it. Then they switched to cloud only, and dropped the standalone. And that meant a monthly fee, and trusting their sync.
To be honest tho, of all things, I’m willing to pay a bit for a password manager to be done right, considering how critical it is.
However, the other problem is they used to be all in on developing for apple first and making beautiful, native apps. Now it’s just a bloated web browser wrapped in an app, like so many other apps.
I still trust their security, they’ve done a great job with that. And their team is very responsive on their forums. I reported a bug and it was fixed right quick.
But I do disagree with their decision to bloat the app.
The UI is simple. But security is deceptively hard. That’s why LastPass has been hacked so many times.
But yeah, there are solid alternatives, like Bitwarden (which is open source, so you can look at the code and see if they’ve made mistakes).
Would be even better if a company made a highly encrypted archive file of your passwords you can sync using iCloud. Instead they want to upload it to someone else's servers and we are all just supposed to trust that the info is safe and never seen by anyone else.
I've been less than enamored with 1Password ever since they switched to the subscription model. This is the nail in the coffin, as far as I'm concerned.
This looks nice, however, I’m sticking with Strongbox. Strongbox works great for me. What happens if you get locked out of your account or iCloud is down? I always have a printout, but a lot of people don’t.
Looks pretty limited compared to, say, Bitwarden or Lastpass. But it's free, so it's probably good enough for some people.
Keychain used to allow a separate password, but Apple nerfed that. So I have my doubts.
It's really odd that they didn't include secure notes, since that's one thing Keychain has always had.