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I don't like when companies respond by looking into things like this. It's in their best intrest to blame someone else. If they were concerned they should offer to pay for her to pick someone she chooses to investigate, and then offer to respond based on their evaluation, instead of their own.
 
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Apple did not jump all over Samsung because all of these high density batteries are one bad manufacturing run from melting down. Everyone is at risk.
 
Someone put a note 7 battery in there and wants 15 mins of fame
Yeah, because that's... possible...
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I don't like when companies respond by looking into things like this. It's in their best intrest to blame someone else. If they were concerned they should offer to pay for her to pick someone she chooses to investigate, and then offer to respond based on their evaluation, instead of their own.
I see your point, but what kind of response to that request would you expect from her? Most consumers don't have any clue what kinds of independent testing labs would be able to investigate something like this, if they're even aware such a thing exists.
 
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What if a charger sent a current so strong to the iPhone that the voltage regulation chip was overwhelmed? Doesn't the heat have to go somewhere?

I'm sorry but this shows that you don't understand how electronics work. The current draw will only be the amount that circuit "asks" for. The charger does not "push" a current.
 
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Will airlines start banning iPhone 7's? How will the airline workers tell an iPhone 7 from iPhone 6? They look the same.
 
FINALLY!! We have the proof Apple devices are just as dangerous.

Now will Apple move to safer battery technology or continue to put more customers at danger?

Sorry folks, no third party or batteries here, this is the real deal genuine Apple device checking out in a very shocking way.
 
The level of "Apple Denial" here is hilarious! So many people badmouthing Samsung during the Note 7 battery issues, yet it happens to an iPhone and every excuse is given EXCEPT for the obvious--the battery "exploded" (to incorrectly use a term that people used about the Note 7 battery).
It sure did, that's pretty clear. But a much lower failure rate than Samsung's experience with the Note 7, and probably well within whatever "appropriate certification bodies" consider a safe failure rate for stuff like this.
 
Will airlines start banning iPhone 7's? How will the airline workers tell an iPhone 7 from iPhone 6? They look the same.
Look for ugly antenna bars or protruding cameras...

Wait they both have them. You're right, there's no difference, 7 is iPhone 6 version 3 or 6sss.

[doublepost=1487960467][/doublepost]Big Friday ahead for the public relations department at Apple today. Lots of overtime for the online forum message containment teams. Bash out those butterfly keys, get to work.
 
But Your post isn't an exaggeration? What are the chances of somebody filming or photographing the phone actually blowing up at the time it happens? It's usually after the fact when someone has the time to react and or realize what's happening. Especially when dealing with an unpredictable smoldering iPhone. I think you're Not factoring the elements of the situation, regardless if this article is fictitious or not.


My first reaction to something smoking next to my bed would be to grab a recording device, that seems reasonable.
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I'm sorry but this shows that you don't understand how electronics work. The current draw will only be the amount that circuit "asks" for. The charger does not "push" a current.

Really? So If I plug my 120v "whatchcallit" into a 480v power supply nothing happens? Who doesn't know how electronics work?
 
Will airlines start banning iPhone 7's? How will the airline workers tell an iPhone 7 from iPhone 6? They look the same.
Is there any particular reason for that? And it's fairly easy to tell the difference between the models, so that part of it all is rather moot.
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FINALLY!! We have the proof Apple devices are just as dangerous.

Now will Apple move to safer battery technology or continue to put more customers at danger?

Sorry folks, no third party or batteries here, this is the real deal genuine Apple device checking out in a very shocking way.
Just as dangerous as what? What are we talking about here?
 
The article title seems a bit misleading. The iPhone isn't melting, the case around it is.

Yah, there's many details left out.
  • What type of case did she have on it? She denies having one of those "liquid" cases that many people were blaming this on.
  • What type of charger was being used?
  • Does she have any clue about thermal dynamics... at all? Charging a phone on an insulating surface causes it to get warm. We all know that. Saying it was "by her head" is not nearly enough info to explain just how insulated the phone was while it was charging. The boyfriend may have held it by the edges, not noticed how warm it was. Moving it may have stirred up the liquids enough to increase temperatures further, breaching the limits.
That particular phone may have had a manufacturing fault, too.

Sadly, these types of reports try to make it sounds like all iPhones have a design flaw, and that's nowhere near the truth.
 
My first reaction to something smoking next to my bed would be to grab a recording device, that seems reasonable

Except, how many others have "Recording devices" next to their bed, other than their cell phone they were already using, which is now smoldering. Not many.

I don't know to many people that would react and record immediately when their phone is exploding. I don't see the logic and reasoning in that at all. It's not normal behavior to think "I bet record this" versus "I need to get away from it or leave it alone" when you have seconds to react and understand what's happening.

The body can't go where the mind hasn't been.
 
Except, how many others have "Recording devices" next to their bed, other than their cell phone they were already using, which is now smoldering. Not many.

I don't know to many people that would react and record immediately when their phone is exploding. I don't see the logic and reasoning in that at all. It's not normal behavior to think "I bet record this" versus "I need to get away from it or leave it alone" when you have seconds to react and understand what's happening.

The body can't go where the mind hasn't been.
Seems like more than one person were involved with more than one device and while the person who is dealing with this might be more in the state that you are describing, another person can certainly record it potentially already having a device in their hands at the moment doing something on it when they hear and see someone else dropping their phone in the bathroom because it started to smoke. While it might not be something everyone would do, it's certainly pretty far off from being strange or unlikely.
 
Yah, there's many details left out.
  • What type of case did she have on it? She denies having one of those "liquid" cases that many people were blaming this on.
  • What type of charger was being used?
  • Does she have any clue about thermal dynamics... at all? Charging a phone on an insulating surface causes it to get warm. We all know that. Saying it was "by her head" is not nearly enough info to explain just how insulated the phone was while it was charging. The boyfriend may have held it by the edges, not noticed how warm it was. Moving it may have stirred up the liquids enough to increase temperatures further, breaching the limits.
That particular phone may have had a manufacturing fault, too.

Sadly, these types of reports try to make it sounds like all iPhones have a design flaw, and that's nowhere near the truth.
Is there victim blaming and shaming going on here in the forum? One can presume with great confidence that with a new iPhone device and after visiting the Apple Store the day before, the user was using an original Apple branded charger. Irrelevant of the case type, or head position, charger type, the device should never have caught alight and melted either!
 
This isn't interesting yet.

What would make it interesting is if the charger used wasn't one of those cheap knockoffs that caused deaths a little while ago.

If it was indeed a cheap knockoff charger then this isn't news. Don't buy cheap chargers. You don't have to buy Apple's but there are companies that make good chargers who won't break your bank.

You can get packs of Apple's cables on Groupon periodically for a nice discount. There's lots of reputable options on Amazon, but at least if you get one with a good company behind it then if something like this happens there's something to fall back on.

Do people really think anything good is going to come from buying that $1-$5 hot pink cable from a CVS bargain bin?
 
Is there victim blaming and shaming going on here in the forum? One can presume with great confidence that with a new iPhone device and after visiting the Apple Store the day before, the user was using an original Apple branded charger. Irrelevant of the charger type, the device should never have caught alight and melted either!

This person isn't a victim of anything yet until it's investigated. I'm not going to presume with any amount of confidence that she was using an Apple branded charger just because she visited an Apple store.

And no, if she used a garbage, poorly built charger, then that is relevant and has been known to even kill people. It is common knowledge if you're not stupid that poorly built or designed electronic anything is bad news and should be avoided.

I mean, if you decide an electrician is too expensive, and you don't know how to do proper electrical work yet still go ahead and just say "I'll do it and hope for the best." Will you say then that irrelevant of the person doing the work, my house shouldn't have caught fire or my TV shouldn't have fried from bad wiring?

Yeah, no.
 
Wow. They could have been my phone. Could have took my whole house down. I hope Tim looks into this.

A guy I worked with had his house burn down by a phone charger, Not a Apple phone..

I usually unplug my phones at night, before I go to bed
 
Really? So If I plug my 120v "whatchcallit" into a 480v power supply nothing happens? Who doesn't know how electronics work?
Current is measured in amps. Guy was specifically talking about current. But to your point, sure, plugging a power supply expecting an input voltage of 120 into a 480 volt source would sure make the power supply fry, hopefully safely by blowing a fuze (or equivalent protection). But this phone pretty clearly didn't blow up because somebody jacked the lightning port directly into a wall socket with a pair of jumper cables.
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Is there victim blaming and shaming going on here in the forum? One can presume with great confidence that with a new iPhone device and after visiting the Apple Store the day before, the user was using an original Apple branded charger. Irrelevant of the case type, or head position, charger type, the device should never have caught alight and melted either!
So, you do realize that lithium ion batteries similar to the ones used in every cell phone explode or otherwise fail with some regularity, right? I mean, it's a fraction of a percent of all the batteries in use, but still. Using a device that stores energy, like any sort of battery, comes with the risk that something like this will happen. All the safeguards and quality control in the universe won't prevent it. So I think we should all just be glad nobody was hurt.
 
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This person isn't a victim of anything yet until it's investigated. I'm not going to presume with any amount of confidence that she was using an Apple branded charger just because she visited an Apple store.

And no, if she used a garbage, poorly built charger, then that is relevant and has been known to even kill people. It is common knowledge if you're not stupid that poorly built or designed electronic anything is bad news and should be avoided.

I mean, if you decide an electrician is too expensive, and you don't know how to do proper electrical work yet still go ahead and just say "I'll do it and hope for the best." Will you say then that irrelevant of the person doing the work, my house shouldn't have caught fire or my TV shouldn't have fried from bad wiring?

Yeah, no.
Commonsense should enter your argument at somepoint to be credible. Original Apple charger because it was included in the box.
Irrelevant of the type of charger, the device regulates whether the battery receives charge or not, that seems to have failed at the device.

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Current is measured in amps. Guy was specifically talking about current. But to your point, sure, plugging a power supply expecting an input voltage of 120 into a 480 volt source would sure make the power supply fry, hopefully safely by blowing a fuze (or equivalent protection). But this phone pretty clearly didn't blow up because somebody jacked the lightning port directly into a wall socket with a pair of jumper cables.
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So, you do realize that lithium ion batteries similar to the ones used in every cell phone explode or otherwise fail with some regularity, right? I mean, it's a fraction of a percent of all the batteries in use, but still. Using a device that stores energy, like any sort of battery, comes with the risk that something like this will happen. All the safeguards and quality control in the universe won't prevent it. So I think we should all just be glad nobody was hurt.
Apple should use newer safety battery technology. Apple uses cheap and nasty rubbish like Samsung and this is the result.
 
Commonsense should enter your argument at somepoint to be credible. Original Apple charger because it was included in the box.
Irrelevant of the type of charger, the device regulates whether the battery receives charge or not, that seems to have failed at the device.

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Apple should use newer safety battery technology. Apple uses cheap and nasty rubbish like Samsung and this is the result.
So despite plenty of unknowns at this point people's different assumptions are magically de facto evidence somehow...
 
Seems like more than one person were involved with more than one device and while the person who is dealing with this might be more in the state that you are describing, another person can certainly record it potentially already having a device in their hands at the moment doing something on it when they hear and see someone else dropping their phone in the bathroom because it started to smoke. While it might not be something everyone would do, it's certainly pretty far off from being strange or unlikely.

There could be a number of theories that one could ponder or encounter. One can believe whatever they want. Fact is, the OP stated if an iPhone "Smoking" next to his bedside, he would grab a recording device.

And in all reality, what I meant by "The body can't go, where the mind hasn't been" is when someone's waking up out of a dead sleep when your iPhone is smoking, it's not a natural reaction to "Grab my camera"or "Let's start recording this now. "Most people would likely try to get away from it with him first reaction or process exactly what's going on when they turn on the light to look at the device.

What I would believe, is if you take someone who is alert and conscious during the day and their iPhone starts to smoke from a distance or next to their side, then somebody might have the likeliness of having someone recording it or having accessibility to record the smoking device. Which, if you look at all these cases that have happened, most of them have been on airplanes, hotel rooms, General places in public during the day.

I'm not Saying it's not possible for someone to have the availability of another recording device or someone near by to record it , but that's not always the case and most times it's after-the-fact when the Photos emerge and reports follow.

It's in my opinion, I just don't find it logical and reasonable for someone in the night, next to their bed, when this phone is smoking, to start recording it. Logically and insound judgment, it makes more sense for somebody to create a distance from the issue, being they don't know what the predictability of the iPhone will do. Then after it seems safe, then perhaps to handle it. Some take risks of picking it up and touching it, when they likely shouldn't (Assuming it's not near children,jeopardizing others safety or any flammables), when others play it safe.

A lot are variables, but safety should be the first thing in somebody's mind versus "Lets pick it up and record it." Commonsense seems to overshadow some.
 
Apple should use newer safety battery technology. Apple uses cheap and nasty rubbish like Samsung and this is the result.
Are you like, a battery medium or something, that you know that? I'm sure both companies use the best battery technology available. Potential energy sometimes goes boom. That's just, like, how the universe works, you know?
 
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