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Hopefully there won’t be hysteria over this, apple’s doing the right thing by conducting their own tests ... was this ever a problem with previous launches? It might otherwise be that sitting on suppliers to reduce battery unit prices has caught out both Samsung (majorly) and Apple (less severely)

iPhone6:

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iPhone5:

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(there are photos online of the other models as well)


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happens to the laptops too..
it's always happened.. never widespread.

so far, appears like it won't be a widespread issue with the latest releases either.
 
Everybody panic! Non-issue if two devices had batteries swell and no fires or explosions.

It's way too early to dismiss this, as well. It's important to note (pun intended) that the iPhone 8 just came out - one could reasonably infer that two failures happening this quickly might be indicative of a serious defect.
 
Now Apple is copying Samsung. Classic.

Oh wait, these haven’t been catching fire and spewing smoke on airplanes.
 
It struck me that since Apple is slow to iterate chasis design (a lot of complaints may be misplaced in safety terms) perhaps Apple have a greater insight into failure points of their design at this stage, have worked them out or around them better which may make for a more reliably safe device since the design is highly mature form an engineering point of view... or maybe not! :D

+ Batteries swell all the time in all kinds of devices as has been pointed out, with such thin devices as phones there is little or no wiggle room so it' become very obvious very quickly.
 
No they didn't.

I had to read into it again, I mistook an independent study as Samsungs findings. You're right. They did say it was due to the battery. However, what I don't get about that is how these batteries were used in other devices with less issues.

I still think Samsung wasn't able to admit their faults. They sent out replacements with a totally different battery and it continued to face the same issues.

Inevitably, didn't they put in smaller batteries to repackage the Note 7 to be sold in South Korea? That tells me that they likely realized the design flaw and fixed it. Yet they did not want to take the risk of being forced through another recall in the USA or other countries involved in the initial recall.

Using multiple manufacturers for the battery, it's hard to just put full blame on the batteries here.
 
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It's way too early to dismiss this, as well. It's important to note (pun intended) that the iPhone 8 just came out - one could reasonably infer that two failures happening this quickly might be indicative of a serious defect.
yeah... blah blah blah 2 issues out of millions


Pretty sure the note 7 fiasco started with one issue. Ended with ~50 but that was enough to make the 7 disspear
 
“NO NEED TO WORRY” in big bold letters. Who are you guys? Apple’s PR department?
i think that bit may be aimed at the people who actually own an iPhone8 and carry them around in their pockets..

..as opposed to a damage control type message for the sake of Apple's image..

(could be wrong of course)
 
I had to read into it again, I mistook an independent study as Samsungs findings. You're right. They did say it was due to the battery. However, what I don't get about that is how these batteries were used in other devices with less issues.

I still think Samsung wasn't able to admit their faults. They sent out replacements with a totally different battery and it continued to face the same issues.

Inevitably, didn't they put in smaller batteries to repackage the Note 7 to be sold in South Korea? That tells me that they likely realized the design flaw and fixed it. Yet they did not want to take the risk of being forced through another recall in the USA or other countries involved in the initial recall.

Using multiple manufacturers for the battery, it's hard to just put full blame on the batteries here.
You have a lot of guessing going on here. How about just reading the info.:)
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/01/23/samsung-note7-battery-investigation/
 
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yeah... blah blah blah 2 issues out of millions


Pretty sure the note 7 fiasco started with one issue. Ended with ~50 but that was enough to make the 7 disspear
Why ya telling me?

And yes, I agree with you. Those who shout down things immediately, always make me chuckle. As if they know what the heck is going on. They are the type who vote straight party lines, then complain that the country is a mess :rolleyes:
 
Yes. 2 phones out of the 10+ millions shipped.

Non-issue - gate
Galaxy Note 7 started with one being reported then 2 then then 3 and then couple more. It would be irresponsible for Apple to claims it as a non-issue prematurely. The smartest they can do is investigate the problem especially that the same iPhone came from a very close country. One possibility is if Apple determined that the battery or phone is manufactured on the same date then that can be a potentially a problem. Good thing Apple is investigating this right away and not act like is a non-issue to prevent potential wide spread of the problem. If it's just a kink from production good, if it's certain batch then Apple is lucky because that's traceable through serial number and minimize the impact. If it's like a Note 7 fiasco which I highly doubt then that's not a good news. Either way Apple is doing the right thing and not acting like a non-issue.
 
“NO NEED TO WORRY” in big bold letters. Who are you guys? Apple’s PR department?

Number one, Macrumors didn't caps lock it like your post is indicating. . Number two, they're just simply reporting what is being discussed across the Internet, they don't want to insinuate any facts until Apple corroborates anything.
 
Galaxy Note 7 started with one being reported then 2 then then 3 and then couple more. It would be irresponsible for Apple to claims it as a non-issue prematurely. The smartest they can do is investigate the problem especially that the same iPhone came from a very close country. One possibility is if Apple determined that the battery or phone is manufactured on the same date then that can be a potentially a problem. Good thing Apple is investigating this right away and not act like is a non-issue to prevent potential wide spread of the problem. If it's just a kink from production good, if it's certain batch then Apple is lucky because that's traceable through serial number and minimize the impact. If it's like a Note 7 fiasco which I highly doubt then that's not a good news. Either way Apple is doing the right thing and not acting like a non-issue.

exactly! I'm sure Samsung and Note 7 users thought these were isolated incidents at first as well and it happens with every "issue". Most people on these forums ALWAYS assume there's no way Apple can be at fault for anything. Until they officially say something is a problem, then the problem isn't "real." Then it's "see at least they are fixing it."
 
Will apple have a note 7-2017?
Newer Li-ion tech has apparently been developed recently where damage to, or puncturing of the cells does not result in a fire or an explosion. Saw it demonstrated on TV a few months ago. Very impressive.

And then there is Prof. John Goodenough's recent breakthrough new sold-state battery tech which promises a ten-fold increase in energy density, much faster recharge times, and achieved recharge cycles in excess of 1200. These batteries can also function at way below zero temperatures, making them well suited for electric cars.

The incorporation of these new types of batteries in our handheld devices will be a truly exciting event.
 
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Number one, Macrumors didn't caps lock it like your post is indicating. . Number two, they're just simply reporting what is being discussed across the Internet, they don't want to insinuate any facts until Apple corroborates anything.
No I disagree. I read this article and also thought the Apple bias was strong with this one. Why can't they simply report the story without inserting opinion? If Apple did a press release saying "Don't worry", then Macrumors can report that too. But no need to insert their view into the story.
 
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