Apple Investigating Two Possible iPhone 8 Plus Battery Failures

[MadeMyDay]

What is the threshold for recall? (Now three reported cases of battery failure.)

Regardless of the iOS, continuously running apps, like those that record overnight sleep activity, can cause battery overheating/expansion. I stopped using such apps a year ago and had battery replaced.

iOS 11 Spontaneous App Activation:
I have noticed iOS 11 spontaneous app activation with iPhone is in my pocket. In response to unusual warmth I take it out to discover an active screen with multiple apps running. I just quit them all and press the sleep button.

Poor Battery Life and Mute Anomaly:
iOS 11 seems to drain battery life more quickly than prior iOS’s. I purchased a Mophie Juice pack to remedy this. There is also a mute anomaly. The screen is supposed to darken when raised to the face. But somehow mute gets pressed resulting in 2-way silence that is not disabled when toggling the mute button.

 

[BorderingOn]

Thanks for not reporting iPhone "explosions" an in the past with same issue.

 

[chaicka]

Just curious...

I have known the Note 7 exploding cases but only from countries with 110v electrical power. Was there any from countries with 230-240v electrical power?

In these iPhone 8/8 Plus cases, both Taiwan and Japan are with 110v electrical power while Hong Kong is with 220v electrical power. Apple is sticking to 5W charging adapter probably for good reasons. Wonder if 110v has higher risk/tendency of it happening...

 

[deanthedev]

Not yet. Historically speaking, more iPhones have caught fire on airplanes than Note 7.

In fact, if we look at only the more dangerous in-flight (not while boarding) incidents, even just the iPhone 6 have exploded more times (at least three), since no Note 7 ever burned in flight...no doubt due to them being banned from in-flight use.

Why wasn’t the iPhone 6 recalled? Or any previous iPhone, for that matter? Was there ever an iPhone model banned from flights?

 

[pat500000]

Maybe iPhone 8 devices are having "goose bumps."

 

[chaicka]

Need to let my father know about this. He has something similar happening on his 7 iphone. seems have come apart like this.

Swelling of Li-ion batteries is normal. In the years (if not decade) of handling Li-ion batteries which are commonly found in many devices such as laptop, smart phones, cameras, shavers, I have seen swelled batteries many many times. Laptops are the most common I have seen, across any big brands like HP, Dell, Apple, Acer, etc.

I have seen an iPhone 5s with battery swell and push the screen out similar to the photos. That iPhone 5s was in use for 3-4 years (since launch day) and happened when brought overseas (Thailand) by my mom for months. Not sure how was the charging done during her stay there.

Swelling is one thing. Swelling with extreme temperature and burst into flame is another. Oh, in case anyone has not use those Nokia phones before this era of smart phones. Even batteries for those Nokia or Ericsson or Motorola phones back during their era, it is norm to experience swelled batteries if use for more than 2-3 years. That's a sign that its lifecycle is up and due to be replaced or change phone.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Something similar happens with the Apple watch. It didn't explode though.

 

[dude-x]

In case anyone is wondering what the tweet in Japanese says in the article:
The iPhone from yesterday is expanding. Apple please fix this quickly!

 

[ApfelKuchen]

exactly! I'm sure Samsung and Note 7 users thought these were isolated incidents at first as well and it happens with every "issue". Most people on these forums ALWAYS assume there's no way Apple can be at fault for anything. Until they officially say something is a problem, then the problem isn't "real." Then it's "see at least they are fixing it."

Ummmm, yeah. Of course, there are similar numbers who "ALWAYS assume" that Apple is guilty of everything. Polarized opinions tend to spawn contrary polarized opinions. And don't try to affix blame on one side or another; if we haven't conclusively proven the chicken-or-egg, there's no hope at all for resolving this one.

 

[farewelwilliams]

sarcasm?

no. a possibility
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That's with the iPhone 6. Just opened my iPhone 8 this morning, and it seems like they've changed the packaging so the iPhone is secured underneath the literature instead of displayed on top.

it's still not impossible. i remember opening my iphone 4 on my bed and i kept shaking the top cover so that the bottom box would come out faster. i shook too hard and the box landed on the side and the iphone popped out.
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Hahaha i never understood why people always try to pull it when what they have to do is just put it on a table, slowly pull the top and the bottom will slide slowly. That's part of the unboxing experience haha you don't force it, it reveals to you.

i think i remember reading in one of the jony ive or steve jobs books that they spent a lot of time designing the box and getting the air pressure right so that the opening experience is more dramatic. it's a nice detail, but i've seen almost everyone opening their packaging (myself included) trying to pull on the box to make it open faster.

 

[Mactendo]

iPhone 8 Plus burst open (due to swollen batteries)

N need t wrry

 

[iChrist]

You dropped it wrong

your charging it wronng !!1

hahhhahaaaahhaa

 

[cppguy]

Just apply some hot glue and press.

 

[sdf]

Curious if owners of these phones utilized the inductive charging feature. It is a wildcard that Apple has less experience with than Samsung and other competitors.

The reason I am curious, is in addition to the normal heat batteries emit during charging, inductive charging adds even more due to the wasted energy associated with this charging style.

I would think most of the lost energy would be simply lost outside of the phone, but probably some of it is lost to heat inside the phone. It would indeed be an interesting thing to find out!
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I've warned Apple about using Elmer's Glue but they won't listen

If a battery is going to expand, spreading the phone open like a vise being expanded is the safest outcome. You wouldn't want pressure building to the point where things where it actually blew apart, or something else gave chemically.

 

[MyMacintosh]

This will be on first page on every website by tomorrow morning, mark my words.

unfortunately, more pressing matters.....

 

[Steve686]

This phenomenon with the batteries swelling happened with all of the extra batteries I bought for a 2008 Unibody MacBook Pro.

The batteries swelled and caused the trackpad above it to become almost locked against the frame. The battery cover door also would not shut properly due to expanding battery.

 

[Keirasplace]

I love how people are dismissing this. They sound just like Note 7s owners did a year ago. Same arguments. "There are millions made, and this is just a couple"...

Remember, Samsung did not make all the batteries that failed on the Note 7. They bought the second set from a 3rd party company, Amperex Techonology Limited (ATL), just like Apple does.

Really, funny how you basically just pulled some argument out of your rump huh.
There are already 5 to 10 times more Iphone sold than Notes were sold when the first fires occured, yet within a few weeks there were many fires.

Samsung claimed a lot of crap about their batteries, which of their "discoveries" are we talking about, the first,second or the fourth? Nothing they said is believable really.

The battery being squeezed and punctured is what caused the fires (in this case the battery was expanding because of heat when charging, which is normal in a liquid, so not really the same thing as this kind of expansion).

The batter makers were the fall guy for Samsung's bad design; probably so they keep their contracts. I've had many swelling batteries yet, non has started a fire. The fire part was Samsung's doing.

Swelling is something different (yes, different is means NOT THE SAME).
Fires vs expansion... Same thing in your head. EXACTLY THE SAME (sic).

Expansion actually occurred in OTHER APPLE PRODUCTS BEFORE, like the watch (screen pops out).
Significant Battery issues in the 6 leading to poor battery life.

 

[charlituna]

Not yet. Historically speaking, more iPhones have caught fire on airplanes than Note 7.

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And how many of them were like the one in Australia that caught fire after a non Apple shop not only put in a non Apple battery, the tech missed that a screw had fallen under the battery. A screw that punched the battery which may have been the reason for the fire,

 

[MH01]

And how many of them were like the one in Australia that caught fire after a non Apple shop not only put in a non Apple battery, the tech missed that a screw had fallen under the battery. A screw that punched the battery which may have been the reason for the fire,

You are missing the point. Batteries fail....no need to defend apple batteries as being somehow magical and will only fail due to user error. It's just a numbers game, x % of devices produced by all manufactures will result in battery failure.

Just based on the sheer volume of iPhone 6s sold more units have failed while the % is with tolerance and no concern for a recall. Just stats

 

[samer.forums]

stop talking about Note 7 ... this is iphone 8 issue. okay apple sheeps ?

This is SERIOUS and I am angry because the phones are very expensive .

 

[boswald]

I don't know how I feel about this yet. On one hand, these are isolated incidents in Asia, which could be imitation devices. On the other, Apple has had major flaws in their products in the past, and since the 8 is sort of a 'meh' update (in contrast to the X), it may be a rush-job.

 

[dontbeevil]

This is not a glue problem. This is a battery problem. You have to understand how lipos work and what is bad for them. Gasses inside a lipo swelling is already an indication of a bad cell. It does not matter if you put more glue on or better glue. If the battery is swelling it is bad or going bad. The question is why is the battery swelling. The swelling could be from a damaged cell. It happens, and there are going to be some bad batteries. It could also come from being discharged to quickly or charged to quickly. It could also come from being over charged or the cell voltages dropping below their minimum voltage. There are only 3 possibilities of what is wrong here. Bad charging circuits, bad current limiter for discharging, or bad cells (defective battery). I fly race drones. We have to understand lipo batteries very well or you would be hearing reports of drone fireballs falling from the sky, which thankfully you don't because we are very cautious with our batteries that are powerful enough to weld stuff together. Looking at the pictures the pictures these batteries are damaged from their swelling. that not a glue issue and if you attempted to fix that it would explode into fire. if you used better glue you would create enough pressure inside to for sure compromise the battery seal and fire would for sure happen. a healthy lipo battery has 0 swelling, no gasses. When I see even the tiniest amount of swelling in my batteries as they go bad I start treating them much differently because they are no longer safe. Swelling battery = dangerous battery. If you have batteries the size I do it because a very serious matter. The question at hand? Is this normal defects that happen or a precursor to a bigger problem as batteries become more and more damaged from whatever the issue is.

 

[phoneme]

guess this new iphone8 really is the da'bomb

 

[Angus576]

Can't trust stuff coming out of the far east. They have so many unapproved third party accessories as well as counterfeit phones and accessories.

 

[samer.forums]

Can't trust stuff coming out of the far east. They have so many unapproved third party accessories as well as counterfeit phones and accessories.

She said she never used outside chargers. you dont trust them ? well sad day for you.