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Sigh. It doesn't matter if you have nothing to hide, make them get a warrant.

True. Allowing allowing a warrantless search is never in your best interest. If we made it illegal for police to even ask, this things would be much easier to sort out.
 
This is one of the most surreal tech stories I've ever read. :eek:

Great coverage so far Arn & team. Interesting to see what happens with this.
 
That joke would work better if you included a link to a certain "Borat" clip.

While that scene was funny, it's not what I was going for.

You don't really "retire" from law enforcement by the time your 26. Unless you're injured in the line of duty.
 
26 year old RETIRED law enforcement professional?? :cool:

Umm, hey Tony...I don't think "retired" was the word you were looking for. :D

I believe it was 26-year retired law enforcement professional. Not 26-year-old. As in, served for 26 years in that role. :)
 
Some creep? That's Michael Jackson! :cool:

I know. That was my p- oh forget it.
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While that scene was funny, it's not what I was going for.

You don't really "retire" from law enforcement by the time your 26. Unless you're injured in the line of duty.

He worked for the force for 26 years and 1 month.
 
All this sounds like taken from the novel 1984, yes, the same novel in which Apple based a famous TV commercial.

Apple lost something more than an IPhone, what a shame if all of this is true.

Jobs, we need you back already.
 
this is a company thats breaching privacy/civil liberties. is anyone else outraged?
 
True. Allowing allowing a warrantless search is never in your best interest. If we made it illegal for police to even ask, this things would be much easier to sort out.

Ah, you just beat me to it. Exactly. If you had stolen the phone (and it was there in your apartment) or you had NOT stolen the phone (and it WASN'T in your apartment) you should not allow a search without a warrant. People think, "welp...got nothing to hide so why not?". Or "if I say yes to a search, they'll figure I've got nothing to hide and go away".
 
this is a company thats breaching privacy/civil liberties. is anyone else outraged?

Whoa, tone it down lol We're assuming this guy told the truth when he told the media that they claimed to be SFPD.

All conjecture.

And in response to civil liberties, etc. etc., that's bs if the guy said they could come in.
 
Very bad optics! Hope we get more information about this from Apple. A little transparency in this case could alleviate a lot of concerns about Apple's behavior in this matter.
 
Agent I-74 reporting......contact jobs...tell him we had no luck at this house....cancel the I-Jet bombing...returning to headquarters.....lets go....bring the I-car around front
 
this is a company thats breaching privacy/civil liberties. is anyone else outraged?

So far we have the word of one guy we know nothing about. Outrage might be a tad pre-mature. If there is some evidence that six Apple employees represented themselves as members of the San Francisco PD, I promise to be outraged with you.
 
Apple didn't need to learn anything the first time. They, and companies like them, have known for years that product leaks and misplacements happen. I'd be willing to bet the way their testers handle prototypes is exactly the same now as it was last year. What would they have changed? Only give the prototypes to employees that have been with the company for X amount of time? Gotten to a certain level?

As an executive, I'd have to assume that all of my employees from the bottom Bob the janitor to the top Tim Cook (it's weird not saying "to the top Steve Jobs") all value their jobs and wouldn't do anything as irresponsible as leaving prototypes at bars. Otherwise, why are they working for me in the first place?

That could be true but there are what, 30,000 Apple employees? How many have access to the prototype iPhones? How do they prevent their friends and loved ones from recognizing that their iPhone is different?

Maybe I'm just surrounded by a bunch of geeks all day, but in my social circle if one of our friends showed up with a particularly unique iPhone there would be a lot of questions about it. I have friends that work for Apple, all of them are as oblivious as the rest of us about hardware and software. How does Apple stop someones wife from picking up their prototype iPhone to check the time or otherwise? There must be a security measure on the phone, at the very least, but I suspect just less people have access than before.
 
My theory so far is that the person who has this either doesn't know what he has, or he sold it someone who doesn't know what they have.

It's either a modified, unreleased iphone 4, an iPhone 5 in an iPhone 4 shell, or an iPhone 5 and the rumors that the case would change from the iPhone 4 are wrong. If it was an actual redesigned case iphone 5, someone would have the intelligence to sell it to the media. I think Gawker has proven they are willing buyers.

Sounds like the Will Smith movie Enemy of the State
 
Whoa, tone it down lol We're assuming this guy told the truth when he told the media that they claimed to be SFPD.

All conjecture.

And in response to civil liberties, etc. etc., that's bs if the guy said they could come in.

lol, we're also apparently assuming that they came to his house in the first place, or that there ever was a phone. There's literally no proof of anything.

But by all means, don't let that stop...the rage!
 
So they gave Anthony the genius a colonoscopy with an unreleased prototype iPhone app at a bar? Quite a story.
 
Whoa, tone it down lol We're assuming this guy told the truth when he told the media that they claimed to be SFPD.

All conjecture.

And in response to civil liberties, etc. etc., that's bs if the guy said they could come in.


Even when I agree that all this story is conjecture, the guy let them come in under false pretenses, if true.

Let's not take our civil liberties lightly, It is just a freaking phone, obviously, apple's personnel can not, do not know, how to "hold it" right.
 
While that scene was funny, it's not what I was going for.

You don't really "retire" from law enforcement by the time your 26. Unless you're injured in the line of duty.

I figured it was one of the other; even though I did catch that you mistakenly inserted "old" to his resume line of "26 year retired law enforcement professional."

What's particularly interesting is that the one person who recommended this guy on LinkedIn is none other than ... Larry Page.
 
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