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Apple Invites Developers to Get One-on-One Guidance From Engineers Ahead of Apple Silicon Mac Launch
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Do you mean that you think consumers will equate Big Sur with Apple Silicon, and blame the OS if they "accidentally" buy a Silicon Mac?
That would be like buying an Android phone and complaining it won't run iOS apps....just about everyone knows what they are buying.
I have read that only 2% of Mac users run Bootcamp, and I would expect that these people understand what it does and know that it won't work on Apple Silicon.
The larger problem might be people who think that Rosetta 2 will run x86 VMs - which it currently doesn't. There are probably more users of VMWare Fusion and Parallels than Bootcamp.
I’m willing to put in a Melbourne cup style bet that it will be on the 17 november
woo the day the iMac and MacBook Pro turn into big iPads with every piece of Mac intel based free software becoming eventually dead you could get online through a browser. now we will be forced to get iPad type apps from the App Store at inflated prices and everything will be on iCloud. and yet they called google for netbooks!
Isn't this just the long way round? a dumb device you think is powerful running iPad software in Mac clothing....
Isn't this just the long way round? a dumb device you think is powerful running iPad software in Mac clothing....
One thing that some users don't know is if it will run Logic Pro X and third party plugins. Also, audio interfaces probably won't be compatible in the the one. If they do, it would be a miracle.
There’s one neat motion graphics company that creates plugins for Final Cut called MotionVFX. They have created and hyped a lot a one click motion tracking solution, it honestly looks jaw dropping judging by the videos and tutorials, but they say they can’t release it until Big Sur comes out... probably something related with the FCPX version, metal drivers, who knows.
However today I received an email about the preorder discount to be the last day, that means the actual release is around the corner and so Big Sur.
no just no. A Mac will be Mac, running macOS and u can download apps from wherever u like even on an ARM Mac.
Fair concern, but off the top of my unreliable head, I think audio interfaces work even on Garage Band on iPad? I mean, at least connecting midi keyboards wireless or USB are pretty much plug n play.
Also, first party apps and many third party ones like Adobe suite, are to be fully functional when AS Macs come out... I think those could be fine.
Even if the machines could be dual-booted, how would x86 apps run on a different Instruction Set Architecture? You would need to boot into an emulator like QEMU. I suppose it's possible, but as you say, Apple would need to be on board, and I don't know whether Windows-on-ARM would run very well, given that it would also be emulating x86_64 apps so you would have a double emulation overhead.
I'm optimistic about audio interfaces if they use Core Audio. If the physical interface (USB) and software APIs are identical, then it should "just work". The problems will arise with custom drivers supplied by the hardware manufacturers - if they haven't spent the last 6 months developing and testing, then there could be problems.
Not sure why Maconplasma disagrees with this. If someone buys an Apple Silicon Mac (which will be pre-installed with Big Sur) and then blames the fact they can't run Bootcamp or Windows VMs on Big Sur, then they would be showing ignorance of the capabilities of the machine that they have bought. Big Sur (on Intel Macs) will be capable of running Bootcamp or Windows VMs.
Apple clearly needs to differentiate the new machines from Intel Macs, which is why I think there will some physical redesign. Others have said that they don't think this should happen so that consumers "could compare the same machine with Intel & Apple Silicon", but I think this could easily confuse some people. If the machines look identical it would be pretty easy for an uninformed buyer to get the wrong model...but, I'll come back to my earlier point that any Mac buyer who knows they want to run "normal" (x86) Windows, will understand that it needs an Intel or AMD processor.
I expect the majority of new Mac buyers will just see the "new & improved" marketing for Apple Silicon, run MacOS for ARM, and be happy.
CISC (68k) > RISC (PPC) > CISC (x86) > RISC (ARM64)
The cycle continues...
The cycle continues...
No matter Intel or Apple chips, I guess it still....ahem...quite expensive. AS based MacBook might floating around $1999 as starting point, maybe.And how much does that cost?
Well, maybe one thing that works in our favor now is that the compilers and runtime environments have become significantly more mature.
I'd expect most things to be easily recompilable on arm -- except drivers and low level stuff optimized with x86 asm or clever usage of C (and the latter should actually keep working, just less efficiently).
...And there should not be a whole lot of low level optimizations to port -- companies have long become too lazy and cheap to try and invest in low level optimizations, especially with such code having a nasty habit of breaking with every other chip generation. Also, developers with low level programming skills being very expensive and hard to replace, and thus low level stuff being expensive and hard to support. I've been in that part of it development industry for 4 years, writing assembly code and low level C code optimized for x86 -- and it sadly is disappearing. I am definitely getting a first gen as mac, i do expect it might not offer things like docker initially, but i don't think it will be as bad as the previous transition.
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One on one is great, but I'm surprised they waited until this close to launch to offer that. At least on the face of it, it seems better planning would have been to make this available soon after the release of the DTK.
According to media reports, Apple began working with the major software developers (like Adobe CC, MS Office) well before the release of the DTK, to ensure they had ample time to get their software optimized by launch time. So clearly Apple understands the benefit of offering developer support as early as possible.
According to media reports, Apple began working with the major software developers (like Adobe CC, MS Office) well before the release of the DTK, to ensure they had ample time to get their software optimized by launch time. So clearly Apple understands the benefit of offering developer support as early as possible.
I’m ready to replace my 2012 MacBook Pro. Battery is shot and screen has numerous dead pixels. Looking forward to this new era of Apple Silicon.