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Apple Invites Reporters Into Testing Lab, Details iPhone 6 Plus Durability Tests

Hey everyone, I just stuck my new iPhone 6+ into a blender and it turned to dust!! Another POS product by Apple. Never again! #Blendgate
 
Zxxv said:
No aggression in that reply and you were told you were reading it wrong. Seems you have a problem. That probably explains why your reacting the way you are.

Lou will be bending some more to anserr the critics like you and also said when he was at apple store he saw people returning their bent 6+ so there are more than9
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He saw others returning? Link?

Oh dear. This isn't going to go away is it?
 
swingerofbirch said:
A machine cannot account for how tight a European's pants or how large an American's ass can be.
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Nope, but then again, Apple doesn't either. That is the owner's responsibility to decide what is the best way or place to carry their extremely large device. If they cause damage to it due to not considering that they may break their device by sitting in their tight ass european jeans or their fat american ass, that is their problem....not Apple's.




Happy iPhone 6+ owner with it in all kinds of pockets since launch day............no bending here. Guess I must not be sitting on it right. :cool:

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richdruitt said:
For all the people here that stick up for Apple, as if they don't make mistakes, Apple has made some enormous mistakes in its history. Almost every company has.

The key to a good company, is to not immediately blame its customers, like Jobs did when he claimed people were holding their iPhone the wrong way. The whole point of making devices like this, is to get out there and see how real people use them.

Sometimes Apple comes up with some incredibly beautiful designs, but sometimes, they also just don't adequately test these designs, like the Power Mac G4 Cube that had issues with its outer case cracking. Or the iPhone 3G antenna problems.

There are quite a few problems Apple products have faced over the years. It's not that Apple stuffs up more than any other company, it's that their stuff ups seem to be more spectacular than most other companies. They also seem to be linked to a lack of real world testing by real people, rather than lab rats from the company. There's also an expectation from most customers that aren't die hard fanboys, that because the products cost considerably more than competitors, that those products will be considerably better quality.
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Unless I am mistaken it was the iP4 with the antenna issues and the cracks in the iP3G/3GS plactic back case that were their issue. I could be wrong though. Your point taken though.
 
How the internet causes people to perceive "gate" issues:

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Stanick said:
Here I drew it for you...
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Wow...just wow...

Are you seriously proposing that a phone in a pocket is the equivalent of a simply supported beam?? AND that the net force on the phone is actually coming from the pants pocket rather than the thigh itself??

First of all, last I checked the thigh is a three dimensional convex surface that has more in common with a sphere than two single points of support at each end. Your drawing implies that the thigh is concave and the phone is being supported only at its short ends.

Secondly, if the phone is face (glass) down against the thigh in a tight pants pocket that is exerting force down on the phone pressing it against the leg, then the phone would experience a bending force corresponding to the contours of the thigh as it exerts an opposing force to that of the pants pocket, and thus bend in the opposite way shown in the photos to conform to the shape of the thigh.

The net force in the middle of the phone would be outwards, while on the edges of the phone the net force would be inwards, theoretically producing a shape similar to LG's curved screen phone from last year, which is exactly the opposite of what the bent phone pictures are showing.

Nope, the more I think about it, the more I don't believe that the miniscule amount of cases reported were caused by only having the phone in the front pocket.
 
MyopicPaideia said:
Wow...just wow...

Are you seriously proposing that a phone in a pocket is the equivalent of a simply supported beam?? AND that the net force on the phone is actually coming from the pants pocket rather than the thigh itself??
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You are looking at it from the wrong direction. Of course the stress comes from the thigh... (action-reaction)

Maybe you should provide a better equivalent diagram.
 
H2SO4 said:
To me I’d read that as facetious and not reply. Which you obviously meant it to be.

Whilst not saying that Apple has or hasn’t done what they claim I’ll leave all you, ‘YeeHaw Ayple - you showz em Saymsung boyz’ posters with this, who seem to be cooing about the factory tour;
Every car manufacturer on earth very likely does cold and hot weather testing and track testing to extremes with all the cars that you drive on a day to day basis and some have as with Apple, invited people to track days and the factory and even made commercials about it. (So this is in far worse conditions for longer than you ever will).
We’re talking in excess of plus and minus 40 celsius for ambient and then at these points they thrash the living hell out of the cars. Some may have even seen the engine testing where they put it on a vibrating rig and just let it run at the redline till it glows red hot and destroys itself.
(We do it with our kit, run it at 120% for extended periods and hit it with 150% and 200% step loads. So our 640KW machines are let run continuously at 800KW till they go pop or until we get bored then we hit it with 960 or 1280KW, let it recover, repeat, recover, repeat ad nauseum).

It’s great that they do all that because it means that under normal use my car will never fail, (normal wear is different), or ever have a reason to be recalled will it?
We don’t even have a spares department because we know they’ll never be needed.
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Of course it was. But so was his comment. When will people stop banging on competitors and market a product for its benefits. You don't see firestone, mentioning the fact that a certain number of cars with Goodyear tires had accidents. No, they say hey, we make a really great tire and here's why. Please come buy them.

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daftpunker909 said:
Denial much?

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I agree. And would like to add that the only thing that matters in reliability testing is to test for the (harshest) usage scenario a user might expose the product to. The only purpose of the tests is to avoid that users see a certain failure mechanism (mode). If the test was not appropriate to simulate these user conditions it is likely that the user is the one that a product fails a certain - and this seems to be exactly what happens.
They claim that only 9 cases were reported - how many devices are in users hands? Given that only a fraction has been shipped to customers and the duration they were in the users hands I the statistics suggest that a lot more will be reported once all 6+ are shipped and have been used for a year or so.
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Not sure I understand your point.

Car manufacturers test cars to a certain and probably reasonable point. For the sake or arguments, lets say cars are crashed at 60 mph. If the dummy survives its a win and they release the car. What they don't promise is if someone crashes at 90 mph, that they will survive. I weigh 205. I don't expect ANY phone to not bend having put it in my pocket and sat on it.

Crap, especially electronics tend to break when subjected to unreasonable stresses. Thats life. Everyone wants a thinner phone, they got a thinner phone. You know what I would say to them. Don't sit on it.

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MyopicPaideia said:
Wow...just wow...

Are you seriously proposing that a phone in a pocket is the equivalent of a simply supported beam?? AND that the net force on the phone is actually coming from the pants pocket rather than the thigh itself??

First of all, last I checked the thigh is a three dimensional convex surface that has more in common with a sphere than two single points of support at each end. Your drawing implies that the thigh is concave and the phone is being supported only at its short ends.

Secondly, if the phone is face (glass) down against the thigh in a tight pants pocket that is exerting force down on the phone pressing it against the leg, then the phone would experience a bending force corresponding to the contours of the thigh as it exerts an opposing force to that of the pants pocket, and thus bend in the opposite way shown in the photos to conform to the shape of the thigh.

The net force in the middle of the phone would be outwards, while on the edges of the phone the net force would be inwards, theoretically producing a shape similar to LG's curved screen phone from last year, which is exactly the opposite of what the bent phone pictures are showing.

Nope, the more I think about it, the more I don't believe that the miniscule amount of cases reported were caused by only having the phone in the front pocket.
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Those phones were put in a back pocket and sat on. You can tell by the way they were bent. You would have to have clown pants on to put an iPhone 6 in your front pocket sideways so that it bent like that by pressure from your thigh.
 
daftpunker909 said:
Denial much?

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I agree. And would like to add that the only thing that matters in reliability testing is to test for the (harshest) usage scenario a user might expose the product to. The only purpose of the tests is to avoid that users see a certain failure mechanism (mode). If the test was not appropriate to simulate these user conditions it is likely that the user is the one that a product fails a certain - and this seems to be exactly what happens.
They claim that only 9 cases were reported - how many devices are in users hands? Given that only a fraction has been shipped to customers and the duration they were in the users hands I the statistics suggest that a lot more will be reported once all 6+ are shipped and have been used for a year or so.
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No, but I get sarcasm when it is in front of me.
 
bawbac said:
Where can we purchase an Apple helmet and glasses to shield us from anything that is NOT Apple??
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I don't know what you are saying, you have so many random brainfarts in what you wrote that I'm surprise it didn't include Aliens or the boogie man.
 
jcbauerca said:
People must be pretty rough or don't care about their $700+ investment.

I have had every iphone since the first one and none of them ever experienced any issues that bloggers claim they have; including antennagate and bendgate. I work hard for my money and take care of my electronics.

Don't know why everyone is so cavalier about a $700+ device.
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Wow wow wow....taking care of your device results in no antennagate. Highest level of ignorance there buddy

slffl said:
Hey everyone, I just stuck my new iPhone 6+ into a blender and it turned to dust!! Another POS product by Apple. Never again! #Blendgate
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Why hasnt anyone made this argument yet? Putting your phone inside a blender isnt normal use....putting your phone inside your pocket however, is normal use
 
Stanick said:
You are looking at it from the wrong direction. Of course the stress comes from the thigh... (action-reaction)

Maybe you should provide a better equivalent diagram.
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I think you might be, actually. I am looking at it with the glass facing the thigh. It appears you are looking at it with the glass facing away from the thigh...
 
katimi said:
I think this whole #bendgate thing is started by Samsung after they saw the succesful launch of the iphone 6 and iphone 6 Plus. I have an iPhone 6 Plus and if it was to bend. I would feel it. The device feels sturdy. And it has that premuim look that Samsung devices will never have.
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Are you trolling or are you serious?
 
Truly, Riccio's grasp of the obvious is dizzying: "The bottom line is that if you use enough force to bend an iPhone, or any phone, it's going to deform," said Riccio.
 
I am bent to think they forgot to use saphire for the screen as so many rumors announced...
 
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